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Title: Hello! New to the site just saying hey...
Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 12, 2017, 01:37:44 PM
Hi! I'm not well versed in many RPG's except for D&D. I started in my late teens in '92 with 2e a fact that aggravates me as I completely missed basic and 1st edition which came in my adolescence. We always kept it simple, used character kits at Randy's (buddy and DM) discretion and never got into S&P, but had a blast all though college.

After school and time and distance happened we now get together once a year for a 3 day session in a rented ski cabin. It's been core 3e for about 14 years, 14 hours a day of goodness! I'm trying to get a 1e or basic game going sometime too. Don't know why I shared all that crap but there you have it. Happy to be here!
Title: Hello! New to the site just saying hey...
Post by: Natty Bodak on February 12, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;945274Hi! I'm not well versed in many RPG's except for D&D. I started in my late teens in '92 with 2e a fact that aggravates me as I completely missed basic and 1st edition which came in my adolescence. We always kept it simple, used character kits at Randy's (buddy and DM) discretion and never got into S&P, but had a blast all though college.

After school and time and distance happened we now get together once a year for a 3 day session in a rented ski cabin. It's been core 3e for about 14 years, 14 hours a day of goodness! I'm trying to get a 1e or basic game going sometime too. Don't know why I shared all that crap but there you have it. Happy to be here!

Welcome!

Three of my college buddies and I do a long weekend gaming getaway to the middle of nowhere, usually in some sort of VRBO in the mountains. At our age there's something magical about getting away from the trappings of our adult day-to-day. Glad to see somebody else doing something similar.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 12, 2017, 02:17:08 PM
It's a lot of fun, eating shitty food, fire going, Conan soundtrack in the background... Damn near perfect
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Post by: trechriron on February 12, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
That sounds amazing!! Welcome to theRPGsite!!
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Post by: Omega on February 12, 2017, 06:21:05 PM
Welcome to wacky world.

Heres your complimentary WWII helmet. Hope you survive the shelling. :D

We did about the same thing when I moved out to the radioactive wastelands of Mitchigoom. Most of the players I picked up would drive out for the weekend.
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Post by: noman on February 12, 2017, 08:20:51 PM
Hi, GrabtharsHammer.  Welcome!  :)
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Post by: Shipyard Locked on February 12, 2017, 08:28:39 PM
Welcome aboard.
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Post by: Spinachcat on February 13, 2017, 05:18:15 AM
Welcome to Mos Eisley!!

Just remember your favorite game suxxors! Unless it's my favorite game, but in that case you're playing it wrong!!


Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;945274Hi! I'm not well versed in many RPG's except for D&D. I started in my late teens in '92 with 2e a fact that aggravates me as I completely missed basic and 1st edition which came in my adolescence.

Are you familiar with the OSR and retroclones?

If not, here's the rub. There are legal free versions of OD&D and AD&D made by fans available online.

Here's my favorite retroclone:

SWORDS & WIZARDRY: White Box (aka, OD&D with only the first 3 books)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e3ul1tpm6g23p0y/AABfYeNDEdDVe6cZlAvCSRCGa?dl=0

Also, lots of people are doing crazy cool stuff with early D&D concepts. Here's my absolute favorite fan creation. Again, all free.

MAZES & MINOTAURS
http://storygame.free.fr/MAZES.htm
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Post by: cranebump on February 13, 2017, 06:02:45 AM
Welcome, and you may regret this.:-)
Title: Hello! New to the site just saying hey...
Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 13, 2017, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;945401Are you familiar with the OSR and retroclones?

If not, here's the rub. There are legal free versions of OD&D and AD&D made by fans available online.

Here's my favorite retroclone:

SWORDS & WIZARDRY: White Box (aka, OD&D with only the first 3 books)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e3ul1tpm6g23p0y/AABfYeNDEdDVe6cZlAvCSRCGa?dl=0

Also, lots of people are doing crazy cool stuff with early D&D concepts. Here's my absolute favorite fan creation. Again, all free.

MAZES & MINOTAURS
http://storygame.free.fr/MAZES.htm[/QUOTE

Yeah I've heard of them, really cool stuff. I never really delved into the history of the hobby until a few years ago, when I started to read up more on Gygax, TSR, and the versions of the games I missed growing up. It's like I have this bitter misplaced nostalgia about it, I love bending my friends ears about the "old days". I'll be sure to check those out thanks!
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Post by: Omega on February 13, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;945401Are you familiar with the OSR and retroclones?

If not, here's the rub. There are legal free versions of OD&D and AD&D made by fans available online.

So says the OSR thieves. And more than a few are very not free.
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Post by: The Butcher on February 13, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: Omega;945478So says the OSR thieves. And more than a few are very not free.

The thieves, we hates them, precious.

(The actual owners of the game would disagree with you.)
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 13, 2017, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;945494The thieves, we hates them, precious.

(The actual owners of the game would disagree with you.)

I remember Tim Kask in an interview talking about walking through an early GenCon and tearing up photo copied pages of OD&D right at the tables...
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Post by: Spinachcat on February 13, 2017, 08:30:21 PM
Quote from: Omega;945478So says the OSR thieves. And more than a few are very not free.

Swords & Wizardry: White Box and Mazes & Minotaurs have always been free.

Most of the retroclones are free, all legally based on WotC's own OGL.

There are retro-clones and re-imagined systems that are not free. I did not link to those.
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Post by: GameDaddy on February 13, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;945274Hi! I'm not well versed in many RPG's except for D&D. I started in my late teens in '92 with 2e a fact that aggravates me as I completely missed basic and 1st edition which came in my adolescence. We always kept it simple, used character kits at Randy's (buddy and DM) discretion and never got into S&P, but had a blast all though college.

After school and time and distance happened we now get together once a year for a 3 day session in a rented ski cabin. It's been core 3e for about 14 years, 14 hours a day of goodness! I'm trying to get a 1e or basic game going sometime too. Don't know why I shared all that crap but there you have it. Happy to be here!

Hi, Welcome to the RPGSite! Just remember if you are playing a Basic D&D game to roll up at least two or three extra characters. They seem very vulnerable, especially at lower levels. We used to have fun to see how many epic ways that we could have our first level D&D characters die!

Also as tribute to your Avatar;

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Rhodes Greece. The Street of the Knights. Famous as a stronghold for the Knights Templar, The Knights Hospitalar, and even more famous as the site where the World's largest Siege engine was built. Also home to one of the Seven Wonders of the World, the Colossus of Rhodes, pictured here below @ 32 meters tall, as a comparison the Statue of Liberty (not including the Pedestal) is 46 meters tall . Opus Dei says this is a good choice for an avatar!

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...also a youtube video tour of the Street of Knights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eypjJzQuL5c

An even better video tour of Ancient Rhodes, Drones Eye view!;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5-ccCJfkrw
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Post by: Voros on February 13, 2017, 09:06:13 PM
We never found Basic D&D very deadly as kids. Perhaps we weren't playing 'properly'?

Anyway rather than the retroclones I'd recommend picking up the Rules Cyclopedia (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17171/DD-Rules-Cyclopedia-Basic?term=rules+cyclo&test_epoch=0&it=1) in pdf for a song.

And no reason to buy into false nostalgia, a lot of the 'magic' in the games had to do with being young and the novelty rather than some inherent superiority of the system (although I prefer BECMI myself).

These days you'll find far more players interested in Basic and B/X than existed back then anyway. Also we have decades of material to draw on as well as loads of new games and imaginative content for D&D. Now is probably the best time to be playing RPGs.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 14, 2017, 12:16:02 AM
Quote from: Voros;945509We never found Basic D&D very deadly as kids. Perhaps we weren't playing 'properly'?

Anyway rather than the retroclones I'd recommend picking up the Rules Cyclopedia (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17171/DD-Rules-Cyclopedia-Basic?term=rules+cyclo&test_epoch=0&it=1) in pdf for a song.

And no reason to buy into false nostalgia, a lot of the 'magic' in the games had to do with being young and the novelty rather than some inherent superiority of the system (although I prefer BECMI myself).

These days you'll find far more players interested in Basic and B/X than existed back then anyway. Also we have decades of material to draw on as well as loads of new games and imaginative content for D&D. Now is probably the best time to be playing RPGs.

I have the PDF on my iPad! The "last gasp" of basic rules under TSR I guess. Looks like a tremendous resource. I agree that now is a great time to get into the hobby for all those reasons you stated no doubt!
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Post by: Opaopajr on February 14, 2017, 11:41:43 AM
Welcome! Enjoy Acrimony!
(Nah, we're a lot nicer than our reputation makes us out to be. :D )
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Post by: Chainsaw on February 16, 2017, 09:00:13 AM
Welcome! Don't take yourself or the forum too seriously and you should enjoy it.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 16, 2017, 10:59:42 AM
Quote from: Chainsaw;946020Welcome! Don't take yourself or the forum too seriously and you should enjoy it.

That's the plan, although watching those that don't on both accounts have internet meltdowns are entertaining...
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Post by: Black Vulmea on February 16, 2017, 11:55:18 AM
Welcome to the adult swim.
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Post by: Marleycat on February 16, 2017, 10:58:33 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;945274Hi! I'm not well versed in many RPG's except for D&D. I started in my late teens in '92 with 2e a fact that aggravates me as I completely missed basic and 1st edition which came in my adolescence. We always kept it simple, used character kits at Randy's (buddy and DM) discretion and never got into S&P, but had a blast all though college.

After school and time and distance happened we now get together once a year for a 3 day session in a rented ski cabin. It's been core 3e for about 14 years, 14 hours a day of goodness! I'm trying to get a 1e or basic game going sometime too. Don't know why I shared all that crap but there you have it. Happy to be here!
Welcome. I'm a 2e/5e Dnd and Mage the Awakening 2e girl and hang with the guys just fine. I really don't like 0/1e DnD to be honest so in my opinion you didn't miss much given you never did old style war games. Top that sir.;)

You will do just fine just remember to stand up for yourself without being racist or being some fake pussy like a SJW.

Black Vulmea is correct this is The Adult Swim so enjoy.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 17, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;946115Welcome. I'm a 2e/5e Dnd and Mage the Awakening 2e girl and hang with the guys just fine. I really don't like 0/1e DnD to be honest so in my opinion you didn't miss much given you never did old style war games. Top that sir.;).

Hahaha! Two of my friends who introduced me to the game (we still play together 25 years later) were from basic/1e and they've never looked back either. How do you like 5e? I have a PDF of the PHB, but you don't really know until you play it...
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Post by: Xanther on February 17, 2017, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;946203Hahaha! Two of my friends who introduced me to the game (we still play together 25 years later) were from basic/1e and they've never looked back either. How do you like 5e? I have a PDF of the PHB, but you don't really know until you play it...

I say play it and make it your own, that was the whole idea behind 0e.  I do love it here you can say what you want and most threads are actual discussions not tip toeing around mods with an agenda.

I moved on from 0e/1e years ago more because I found ways (homebrew ways) to better get the verisimilitude I love, but I do find them 0e and 1e more flexible than 3e+ if you want to make the game your own.  Just ask and you can get me to plug other old school RPGs that work as well as D&D.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 17, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: Xanther;946206I say play it and make it your own, that was the whole idea behind 0e.  I do love it here you can say what you want and most threads are actual discussions not tip toeing around mods with an agenda.

I moved on from 0e/1e years ago more because I found ways (homebrew ways) to better get the verisimilitude I love, but I do find them 0e and 1e more flexible than 3e+ if you want to make the game your own.  Just ask and you can get me to plug other old school RPGs that work as well as D&D.

When you say home brew are you using the raw framework of D&D and then stuffing it with your own material? Or is it more picking and choosing your favorite bits of different editions and peppering them with your own creations? Where in Boston are you?
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Post by: Xanther on February 17, 2017, 05:44:45 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;946207When you say home brew are you using the raw framework of D&D and then stuffing it with your own material? Or is it more picking and choosing your favorite bits of different editions and peppering them with your own creations? Where in Boston are you?

A bit of background.  I started with wargames, then was turned onto OD&D in '78-'79.  Played D&D, Traveler, TFT, Runequest and CoC.  My homebrew started as modified 1e, really filling in gaps and making some grappling rules that didn't require a supercomputer.   Over the last 30 years or so it has evolved and no longer much resembles D&D mechanics wise, yet somehow I must have kept something.  I've always made a conversion map for stats, and when I "Convert" my old TSR and Judges Guild modules into my homebrew stats/system they still play like they did under 1e with the same level ranges in my own system.  That is largely intentional as my goal has always been to streamline play and add verisimilitude.  So my homebrew is more of a Frankenstein, which incorporates different ideas from the many systems and games I've played over the years along with my own creations.

I'm in metrowest about 15-20 miles outside Boston.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 17, 2017, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Xanther;946208A bit of background.  I started with wargames, then was turned onto OD&D in '78-'79.  Played D&D, Traveler, TFT, Runequest and CoC.  My homebrew started as modified 1e, really filling in gaps and making some grappling rules that didn't require a supercomputer.   Over the last 30 years or so it has evolved and no longer much resembles D&D mechanics wise, yet somehow I must have kept something.  I've always made a conversion map for stats, and when I "Convert" my old TSR and Judges Guild modules into my homebrew stats/system they still play like they did under 1e with the same level ranges in my own system.  That is largely intentional as my goal has always been to streamline play and add verisimilitude.  So my homebrew is more of a Frankenstein, which incorporates different ideas from the many systems and games I've played over the years along with my own creations.

I'm in metrowest about 15-20 miles outside Boston.

Love it! Very cool. Always curious to see how people run their games especially if it's a "Frankenstein" as you said, obviously drawing on years of play and different rules sets etc. Very good. I'm an AZ resident now but am a New Englander born and raised. Started playing at Franklin Pierce College in NH.
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Post by: Xanther on February 17, 2017, 06:34:07 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;946210Love it! Very cool. Always curious to see how people run their games especially if it's a "Frankenstein" as you said, obviously drawing on years of play and different rules sets etc. Very good. I'm an AZ resident now but am a New Englander born and raised. Started playing at Franklin Pierce College in NH.

Very cool. I've family in AZ, half way in the middle of no where.  Kansas and Colorado raised myself but think I've been in New England the longest.  (I always must refrain myself when threads turn to agriculture) Just lots of good work around here in Boston.

I'm happy to share my homebrew or discuss it more here, PM or another thread.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 17, 2017, 06:39:48 PM
Quote from: cranebump;945404Welcome, and you may regret this.:-)

Haha thanks! I entertained myself with an old thread here about 3e being a game for assholes, I couldn't stop reading. Anyway, what are you playing now?
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 17, 2017, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: cranebump;945404Welcome, and you may regret this.:-)

Haha thanks! I entertained myself with an old thread here about 3e being a game for assholes, I couldn't stop reading. Anyway, what are you playing now?
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Post by: Marleycat on February 17, 2017, 08:28:37 PM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;946203Hahaha! Two of my friends who introduced me to the game (we still play together 25 years later) were from basic/1e and they've never looked back either. How do you like 5e? I have a PDF of the PHB, but you don't really know until you play it...

It harkens back to 2e with no reliance on grid based combat but it definitely has nods to 3/4e which can be adjusted easily to taste. I love how they built the Wizard class to still have actual resource management yet be far simpler to manage then the 2/3e versions. For instance a wizard could have whatever spell but they can only prepare a pool of spells equal to level+int mod usable however they see fit with their available spell slots. People pretty much have been doing very similar for years anyway unless the DM was a hardass. I like Arcane Recovery, Signature Spells and having a 1st/2nd level spell of your choice as at-will I like that a wizard and no other magic user type has two 3rd level floating spells 1x. I love that Fighters are damned deadly and don't die easily like pre 3e DnD. And are the only class with more then two attacks a round in the game just like 0/1e.

I love advantage/disadvantage it gets you to look past your character sheet and skill list and just try something, anything because it has a chance of working like 0e/1e but it's more defined then those games which I'm more comfortable with. I am a huge fan of at-will cantrips because if I want to use a crossbow I'll either be an Arcane Trickster, multiclassed Rogue/Wizard or a Rogue thank you very much. If I'm playing a Wizard I want to do wizard things 24/7. And that includes combat. But just having the capability to use minor illusions or prestidigation anytime? Pure gold with value both in and out of combat.

I like that every class has a magic or martial variant without multi-classing (Arcane Trickster, Bladesinger, Eldritch Knight etc.). And because of that making single class concepts the best and strongest concerning power despite the guys that love trying the "build" minigame from 3/4e best efforts. They did their homework there. Multi-classing is fun but it costs big to be such a generalist in comparison to a single class specialist because of higher level class features and feats with serious heft.

I love that each character class has a role but it's not so hardcore like 3/4e. I like that after only 10-15 editions?(though 4e did an awesome job to be honest with the Bard and Cleric(Invoker)):p they nailed how a Bard should work.

I like the fact the Wizard doesn't just take over, but brings the HAMMER and still kicks ass without it(ritual spells and at-will cantrips they be lovely. It'd be interesting to see a class with access to use any cantrip anytime or ritual spell only just to see if it would be viable).
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Post by: Voros on February 18, 2017, 06:45:46 AM
I also like 5e/2e quite a bit. Prefer it to 3e/4e/0e/1e. Only B/X/BECMI competes for my affection.

It is actually incredibly easy to adapt anything from BECMI, AD&D 1e, 2e and 5e (3e isn't that hard either). The edition warring that takes up so much oxygen and parsing online is a good example of the narcissism of small differences.
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Post by: GrabtharsHammer on February 19, 2017, 10:59:15 PM
Quote from: Voros;946303I also like 5e/2e quite a bit. Prefer it to 3e/4e/0e/1e. Only B/X/BECMI competes for my affection.

It is actually incredibly easy to adapt anything from BECMI, AD&D 1e, 2e and 5e (3e isn't that hard either). The edition warring that takes up so much oxygen and parsing online is a good example of the narcissism of small differences.

I've come to notice this a lot more lately, as I never gave it any thought and I wasn't on any forums either.
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Post by: RPGPundit on February 20, 2017, 01:31:43 AM
Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;945274Hi! I'm not well versed in many RPG's except for D&D. I started in my late teens in '92 with 2e a fact that aggravates me as I completely missed basic and 1st edition which came in my adolescence. We always kept it simple, used character kits at Randy's (buddy and DM) discretion and never got into S&P, but had a blast all though college.

After school and time and distance happened we now get together once a year for a 3 day session in a rented ski cabin. It's been core 3e for about 14 years, 14 hours a day of goodness! I'm trying to get a 1e or basic game going sometime too. Don't know why I shared all that crap but there you have it. Happy to be here!

Welcome to theRPGsite!
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Post by: lacercorvex on May 03, 2017, 10:05:25 PM
I'm new here as well, welcome  to theRPGsite!  I just jumped into the pool , making sure I don't produce floaters, I like to read about everyone's ideas and try to learn all I can from the experience, the site is pretty cool so far, enjoy gaming my friend.
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Post by: RPGPundit on May 10, 2017, 12:49:46 AM
Quote from: lacercorvex;960586I'm new here as well, welcome  to theRPGsite!  I just jumped into the pool , making sure I don't produce floaters, I like to read about everyone's ideas and try to learn all I can from the experience, the site is pretty cool so far, enjoy gaming my friend.

Welcome to you as well, then!