So, gaming Hags don't really reflect the mythic Hag which rode you in your sleep, so that you gradually became worn dorn and exhausted during the day. Thus Hag-Ridden.
Now, Rolemaster has Fatigue rules which can cover this easily enough and i guess you can inflict Insanity Points on WFRP characters or San loss on CoC characters.
Any ideas how you'd do this in your system of choice?
Also, any ideas welcome on how you'd go about fighting and defeating something that is basically a dream-haunt.
Quote from: One Horse Town;587646Also, any ideas welcome on how you'd go about fighting and defeating something that is basically a dream-haunt.
Well the two classic ways are either t beat the hag in your sleep using some form of Lucid dreaming, or to hunt down its physical form during the day and kill it. I would probably require the hag to have some form of physical token (hair, Blood, toenails, etc) of the victim, so you could track her down by following how she got it.
Actually, in Hoodoo Blues (http://www.vajraenterprises.com/!hoodoo/), you can play a hag that rides people in their sleep.
Quote from: Dan Davenport;587695Actually, in Hoodoo Blues (http://www.vajraenterprises.com/!hoodoo/), you can play a hag that rides people in their sleep.
I figured someone would get round to it eventually.
Quote from: One Horse Town;587705I figured someone would get round to it eventually.
Yup, some game company was bound to come up with that. It was only a matter of witch one.
Quote from: Dan Davenport;587711Yup, some game company was bound to come up with that. It was only a matter of witch one.
Have a pun point.
I'd probably use the same rules I wrote up for La Mano Peluda.
I did write up my own version of infernal hags to match my "doing without planes" approach, but I don't remember putting specific rules for hag-riding. But then, when I re-wrote the infernal types, I specifically avoided power lists and instead said things like "use powers or darkness, fear, and charm equivalent to spells of 4th level or less."
Quote from: talysman;587817I'd probably use the same rules I wrote up for La Mano Peluda.
What dat?
Quote from: talysman;587817I'd probably use the same rules I wrote up for La Mano Peluda.
Quote from: One Horse Town;587822What dat?
You mean "what are the rules?" or "what's La Mano Peluda?"
La Mano Peluda -- "the hairy hand" -- is a story told to scare children, about a ghostly hand that grabs at you while you're sleeping. I don't know the exact story, because I only found out about it after I had a weird experience one night and told a friend about it a couple days later, and she said it was La Mano Peluda.
I exaggerated the basic idea and wrote that up as a Nightmare Hand, which acts more like a curse (although characters who can become ethereal can fight the hand normally.) The victim wakes up to see the hand reaching down towards their face, moments before it vanishes. Their heart races, and they take 1 point of damage adjusted for Con. High-Con characters obviously won't take damage, but as long as they are under the curse, they can't heal naturally on days that they take the damage.
Yeah, I think you could do this by just stacking penalties. E.g. in D&D you stack -1's per (time period) against the d20 rolls.
Would get pretty serious fast, though, if 'time period' was 'day'. :)
My solution was in one game to have the had ride the person and essentially give them influenza, of course the hag was a Pond-Hag, and was tied to the nasty pond water. She tried to lure one of the PC's and made him sick, but he was a re-incarnated dragon (Fireborn.) So he survived.
I don't think I have that much of an interest in this kind of monster. The kind of Hag I want is one that poisons wells, kidnaps and eats innocent children, and tempts lords with prophecies of power that will lead to the downfall of dynasties. There's lots more adventuring potential in those things.
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Doesn't the AD&D Night Hag have the ability to ride it's victims in their sleep and wear them down?
...and according to the 1e Monster Manual, yes they do.
Quote from: Planet Algol;588477Doesn't the AD&D Night Hag have the ability to ride it's victims in their sleep and wear them down?
Yep, as does the 3e night hag. The 4e night hag also has a similar ability, but it is tied up with 4e-isms that really diminish the flavor, in my opinion.
In Nomine has that already built-in with Demons of Lust. You probably are looking for Impudites to steal all of someone's Essence leaving them tired and luckless the next day (Essence only recovers 1 point a day at noon for humans). However you could have various other bands do similar things: dominator/rix Balseraph beat you within an inch of your life and leave you begging for more; Calabite dealing soul damage during sex (but never past the point to lose a force), Habbalah manipulating your emotions until your a quivering pool of tears, or Shedim just grabbing your body and convincing you it's OK to do all those naughty sexy things you wanted with another demon until you're broken and spent.
Naturally angels, other demons, Soldiers of God/Hell, Undead, Saints, etc. can do similar if equipped with the right artifacts and songs. For example, Ethereal Song of Attraction creates nigh-all-consuming love in another for hours at a time, which should leave most people similarly exhausted.
And then we could talk about IN SJG ethereal spirits who want worshipers, or at the very least a chance to ravage human for essence -- and sex is just a convenient means to an end.
Did you want mechanical details?
Quote from: Planet Algol;588478...and according to the 1e Monster Manual, yes they do.
It's been so long, i'd forgotten all about that.
Quote from: Planet Algol;588477Doesn't the AD&D Night Hag have the ability to ride it's victims in their sleep and wear them down?
Changeling: The Lost features its own variety of Night Hags, in
Dancers in the Dusk (pages 31-33). They are basically dream predators which drop out of nightmares into the waking world in order to drain Glamour and Willpower from their paralyzed victims. They don't always show up as hags, as such, either: for example, in the more modern times the same entities have been responsible for at least some of the UFO stories about Greys appearing in people's bedrooms.