Quote from: RPGPundit;968387Dungeon crawling is close to the very last thing I'd run GURPS for.

Because...?

And what would you use GURPS for?

Quote from: Skarg;968506That's good to hear. I'm curious what edition you started with.

As someone who started GURPS at the beginning already having played its ancestor TFT for years, I have no problems running GURPS, though the 4e Basic Set seems overly stuffed full of stuff that's mostly noise to me.

I also think it's actually best at medieval combat and great for fantasy-medieval, though I don't really like many D&D-style monsters or the D&D power curve, so while I welcome Dungeon Fantasy, I would tend to not use the amped-up D&D-like aspects of it and instead continue to use what's usable for closer-to-TFT-model play.

I also played TFT and started with First Edition, though I owned Man to Man and Orcslayer.
It seems to me it is about a complex and inclusive as the original system but Third Edition suffered from skill bloat and making new advantages for various settings.
Fourth Edition addressed that by expanding and cleaning up the framework from wich abilities are built.

As for the 'noise' you mention by being useful for all genres there is a lot in the Basic set that will be wasted if your only interested in one genre.
So if you like Fantasy the Sci Fi and possibly even Horror and Social sections may be useless to you.
The point of the DFRPG is to create a standalone system using the same rules that cuts it down to the stuff you only want for the dungeon delver subgenre.
If it sells well they will do others for different genres.

Quote from: Larsdangly;968510GURPS is a great game system that is also its own worst enemy. It is hard to imagine a better 'generic' rpg engine, but no matter what you ask it to do, you'll find it also does 900 other things that you have to wade through to get what you want. This is why I'd say GURPS is a better fantasy combat and magic 'engine' than TFT when you break them both down to their elementary gears and knobs, but if I'm going to grab a game to play in that genre it is TFT every time. It is worth having some wonky organization and a couple of goofy rules to be able to work from a couple of magazine-sized booklets instead of a library of rules-filled tomes.

GURPS is cool. I have 3rd edition and maybe a dozen of those awesome sourcebooks. I can't see ever playing GURPS again simply because I just want a game ready to be played instead of sifting through a generic game to build my own out of the various options. Like you, I'll just play The Fantasy Trip if I want a fantasy game. However, the sourcebooks are something I have come back to over and over again. "How to be French" from GURPS Swashbucklers, as well as other ideas in that book, carried over into my Flashing Blades game.

Will Mars Attacks! be as cool as this?
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Quote from: Dumarest;968554Will Mars Attacks! be as cool as this?

Better...

As long as it's better than this:

I liked the movie a lot, actually, but for a game I'm much more interested in the vibe of the original horror cards. So that's looking cool to me.

Quote from: Simlasa;968635I liked the movie a lot, actually, but for a game I'm much more interested in the vibe of the original horror cards. So that's looking cool to me.

To be fair, it covers a range of games from deadly serious to camp crazy, but that's kind of the design goal.

Quote from: Dumarest;968550Because...?

And what would you use GURPS for?

Because it's just too technical and dull for the kind of thing dungeoneering is for.

I'd use GURPS for RP-heavy low-power-level historical or modern gaming.  I ran a Scarlet Pimpernel game, a Prisoner game, a Musketeers game, and a couple of Illuminati games with it.

Quote from: RPGPundit;969931I'd use GURPS for RP-heavy low-power-level historical or modern gaming.  I ran a Scarlet Pimpernel game...a Musketeers game...

And you didn't invite me? :mad: Did you use the GURPS Age of Napoleon or Swashbucklers  books at all?

Edit: Coincidentally, this past weekend I watched the 1982 Scarlet Pimpernel with Anthony Andrews, Jane Seymour, and Ian McKellen. Pretty good but could have used more action/swordfights.

Quote from: Dumarest;969941And you didn't invite me? :mad: Did you use the GURPS Age of Napoleon or Swashbucklers  books at all?

Yes. GURPS Swashbucklers, which I felt was a very good sourcebook.  Anyways, all this was literally decades ago.

Quote from: RPGPundit;970444Yes. GURPS Swashbucklers, which I felt was a very good sourcebook.  Anyways, all this was literally decades ago.

That still doesn't explain my invitation not arriving...

Fnord.

Another tangential bit of news: SJG have just added Martial Arts, Powers and a couple of NPC collections to their library of POD offerings.

SJG really do seem to be making a big push on getting GURPS back to being a visibly supported system again.

Quote from: dbm;971211Another tangential bit of news: SJG have just added Martial Arts, Powers and a couple of NPC collections to their library of POD offerings.

SJG really do seem to be making a big push on getting GURPS back to being a visibly supported system again.

More likely something happened to convince Steve Jackson that free money is better than his irrational hatred of his own RPG products.