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Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Akrasia on February 07, 2007, 11:14:16 AM
I'm contemplating running an Angel game (using the Angel Cinematic Unisystem rules, not necessary the 'Angelverse') for a game set in the Elizabethan era.

Any chance there are some decent RPG books on that period?  System doesn't matter; I'm more interested in setting-related stuff with a RPG perspective.

Thanks! :)
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Fighterboy on February 07, 2007, 11:51:11 AM
Three books I found useful when running Call of Cthulhu in that era:

A Mighty Fortress for AD&D (available on pdf from RPGNow)...if you only pick up one, THIS IS THE ONE!!

GURPS Swashbucklers (also on pdf from e23)...very good background for the era

Maelstrom, coincidentally being discussed in another thread here

Oh, and available for free download is Elizabethulhu by Cam Banks (from the Evil Hat site)...basically D&D 3.0 in Elizabthan England.  Apparently this is being reworked (and renamed Gloriana) into a full supplement by Gareth-Michael Skarka, but I have no idea what the release date might be.

Hope this helps!

(edit: actually 4 books - I forgot Strange Aeons for Call of Cthulu!  I think that's available on pdf too, through DriveThru)
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Akrasia on February 07, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: FighterboyHope this helps!
 

It does, thanks.  :cool:
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: mythusmage on February 07, 2007, 12:56:38 PM
Note that A Mighty Fortress is very much post Elizabethan Age.
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Balbinus on February 07, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: mythusmageNote that A Mighty Fortress is very much post Elizabethan Age.

Are you sure?  I thought it covered about 1550 onwards.

It's actually not a well covered period, Gurps Swashbucklers doesn't cover it in much detail at all, Maelstrom is good but has little background info, AMF is the only one I'd strongly recommend.

I think Phil Masters site may have an excerpt from an unpublished Sorceror's Crusade book with some good info on it, I have no idea how much SC generally had on the period.
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: joewolz on February 07, 2007, 01:41:12 PM
ALthought its a humorous game, and it deals with Goblins of its own defninition, GURPS Goblins is a pretty good resource on Georgian London.

It mentions Elizebethan England, but doesn't concentrate on it.
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Fighterboy on February 07, 2007, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: BalbinusAre you sure?  I thought it covered about 1550 onwards.

1550-1650, decidedly Elizebethan!  Besides, the character kits were definitely slanted to the Elizebethan period...Sea Dog, Gentleman Adventurer and Philosopher Mage, plus Thespian, if my memory serves right...
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: flyingmice on February 07, 2007, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: mythusmageNote that A Mighty Fortress is very much post Elizabethan Age.

Not true, Mythusmage. I have it, and have used it for several Elizabethan games. One was a Blood Games campaign which started in Bermuda during a storm. On the island were a wizard, his beautiful 'daughter', a winged homunculus,and a powerful monster. This campaign went on - they met a very young Athos at Shakespeare's funeral, and attended Pocohontas' funeral as well that same year IIRC - until the Thirty Years War. It's currently suspended, but we may go back at any time.

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Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Akrasia on February 08, 2007, 12:04:52 PM
Hmmm ... it looks like A Mighty Fortress is the key resource available, then?

Okay, time to visit RPGnow ... :)
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Akrasia on February 08, 2007, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: flyingmiceNot true, Mythusmage. I have it, and have used it for several Elizabethan games. One was a Blood Games campaign which started in Bermuda during a storm. On the island were a wizard, his beautiful 'daughter', a winged homunculus,and a powerful monster. This campaign went on - they met a very young Athos at Shakespeare's funeral, and attended Pocohontas' funeral as well that same year IIRC - until the Thirty Years War. It's currently suspended, but we may go back at any time.

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Wow.  That sounds very cool!  :cool:
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: flyingmice on February 08, 2007, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: AkrasiaHmmm ... it looks like A Mighty Fortress is the key resource available, then?

Okay, time to visit RPGnow ... :)

Very highly recommended, and I never used it for D&D. :D

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Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: flyingmice on February 08, 2007, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: AkrasiaWow.  That sounds very cool!  :cool:

Thanks! If you don't know your Shakespeare, the bit about Bermuda was the plot from the Tempest. Thing was, none of my players got it, yet they ended up telling old Will the story when they got back to England... :D

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Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: mythusmage on February 08, 2007, 03:29:54 PM
The vibe I got from A Mighty Fortress was early 17th century. A hundred years can cover a lot of events. For example, between the early part of the 1st century A. D. and the early part of the 2nd the city of Rome went from a population of approximately 1 million to arond 300 thousand. A population loss of some 70%.

I can recommend it for an Elizabethan Period campaign, as well as a 30 Years War campaign. As a matter of fact, if you're thinking of doing a Ring of Fire campaign (1632 et al) it's a better resource than the abortive 1632 d20 supplement.

Heads Up: The currency system in A Mighty Fortress is not standard D&D. It's a simplified version of the currency system in use at the time, and can present problems to those familiar only with modern decimal currencies. In addition, your players could earn a tidy profit simply by converting one country's currency to a second country's, then converting that to a third country's currency and then converting that to the first country's. Exact details are lost in the mists of time I'm afraid.
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: mythusmage on February 08, 2007, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: flyingmiceThanks! If you don't know your Shakespeare, the bit about Bermuda was the plot from the Tempest. Thing was, none of my players got it, yet they ended up telling old Will the story when they got back to England... :D

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Speaking of New World adventures during this period. Legend has it that the newly established Harvard University offered the position of staff astronomer to Galileo Galilei. Being under house arrest at the time, and rather old on top of it, he had to decline the offer. Harvard being a Protestant establishment at the time had a good deal to do with it.

But what if Henry VIII had gotten his divorce, and England had remained a Catholic country? Could the Holy See have shipped their problem child off to America in the hopes his separation from the fractious world of European astronomy could help settle things down? And how would the PCs get involved?
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Akrasia on February 08, 2007, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: flyingmiceThanks! If you don't know your Shakespeare, the bit about Bermuda was the plot from the Tempest. Thing was, none of my players got it, yet they ended up telling old Will the story when they got back to England... :D

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Yeah, I got that and thought that it was damn clever.  :cool:
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: Akrasia on February 08, 2007, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: mythusmage... Heads Up: The currency system in A Mighty Fortress is not standard D&D. It's a simplified version of the currency system in use at the time, and can present problems to those familiar only with modern decimal currencies. In addition, your players could earn a tidy profit simply by converting one country's currency to a second country's, then converting that to a third country's currency and then converting that to the first country's. Exact details are lost in the mists of time I'm afraid.

Currency arbitrage by cunning PCs!  I'd definitely reward experience for that.  
:D
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: flyingmice on February 08, 2007, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: mythusmageSpeaking of New World adventures during this period. Legend has it that the newly established Harvard University offered the position of staff astronomer to Galileo Galilei. Being under house arrest at the time, and rather old on top of it, he had to decline the offer. Harvard being a Protestant establishment at the time had a good deal to do with it.

But what if Henry VIII had gotten his divorce, and England had remained a Catholic country? Could the Holy See have shipped their problem child off to America in the hopes his separation from the fractious world of European astronomy could help settle things down? And how would the PCs get involved?

Now that would be a fascinating alt.history! :D

-clash
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: flyingmice on February 08, 2007, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: AkrasiaYeah, I got that and thought that it was damn clever.  :cool:

Old Will had a mad gift for adaptable gaming adventures! I try to steal from the best. :D

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Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: mythusmage on February 08, 2007, 04:06:42 PM
Quote from: flyingmiceOld Will had a mad gift for adaptable gaming adventures! I try to steal from the best. :D

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I once put together an adventure seed from a combination of readings on Dr. John Dee, the murder of Christopher "Kit" Marlowe, the back story to the old World of Darkness, and Shakespeare's A Midsummer's Night's dream.

Premise: Certain parties are trying to change the nature of reality. To 'cleanse' the world of magic and so make it safe for science and rationality. Dr. Dee has learned of these plans, and realizes that if carried out it would cast reality in a lie that would pervert and warp things very badly. One part of the plan is to drive the fae out of the world so that their magic could not remind people of the true nature of the world. This is where William Shakespeare comes in.

Originally Dee commissioned Marlowe to do a series of plays that would act to remind people of the world they actually live in. Doctor Faustus was the first of these. But Kit's death at the hands of 'ruffians' (agents of Queen Elizabeth's spymaster, one of the conspirators, actually) put paid to that plan. So John Dee approached Will about doing a play. About the Fae at play. And to do the first performance on Midsummer Night's Eve in a field associated with the Fae, for the Fay all unknowing. And not just a play but a dramaturgy. A dweomer to enchant and enthrall the Fae, and in the doing disrupt the thaumaturgical workings of the conspiracy and lay their lies to waste.

Will knows nothing of this. He only knows is that he's putting on a play for a client. People want to stop him. Not because they know what he's doing, but because he's a playwright, poet, and actor who's working on a commission for Doctor Mirablis, much as the half-fae Christopher Marlowe was before his death. Can the PCs keep Shakespeare safe while keeping him in the dark regarding the true purpose of his work?
Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: flyingmice on February 08, 2007, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: mythusmageI once put together an adventure seed from a combination of readings on Dr. John Dee, the murder of Christopher "Kit" Marlowe, the back story to the old World of Darkness, and Shakespeare's A Midsummer's Night's dream.

Tres cool, Mythusmage! If it was nWoD I'd love to have played it - OWoD and I never got along... :D

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Title: Good 'Elizabethan England' RPG supplements?
Post by: mythusmage on February 08, 2007, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: flyingmiceTres cool, Mythusmage! If it was nWoD I'd love to have played it - OWoD and I never got along... :D

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The system was to be Dangerous Journeys actually.