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Get Excited about Zwiehander

Started by PencilBoy99, July 16, 2015, 07:17:49 PM

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PencilBoy99

July 16, 2015, 07:17:49 PM
Get excited for the terrificness that is Zwiehander, a retroclone of WFRP with lots of cool new-school mechanics. Also, it's awesome.

Bren

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July 16, 2015, 11:42:35 PM
Quote from: PencilBoy99;842298Get excited for the terrificness that is Zwiehander, a retroclone of WFRP with lots of cool new-school mechanics. Also, it's awesome.
If I wanted to play a level-based game, Zwiehander looks like a lot of fun. But even though I don't, it still looks like there will be a lot of useful bits to take from it. The illustrations they've shown have been excellent for NPCs set in the Germanies. Combined with the excellent write up Blusponge did on Frankfurt, a tour of several of the principalities looks highly likely for the PCs.
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Arkansan

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July 17, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
I've been pretty excited about it for a while now.

Scutter

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July 17, 2015, 02:09:31 AM
Only happened upon this game about a week ago and it looks pretty good.

The obvious question is, can you use this to run WFRP 1ed adventures?
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." ~ George Bernard Shaw.

JRT

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July 17, 2015, 07:10:51 AM
Quote from: PencilBoy99;842298a retroclone

I really wish people would stop using RETRO-clone.  Retro meant "old".  The term retro-clone was used because stuff like the clones created of the 1st Edition D&D games were not the current D&D being used.

Unless you are going back several revisions, there's nothing "retro" about it.  It's just a clone.  Start using clone.  Using retro-clone for all clones is as bad as "literally" being used as its own antonym.
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crkrueger

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July 17, 2015, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: PencilBoy99;842298lots of cool new-school mechanics.
For example?
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crkrueger

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July 17, 2015, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: JRT;842426I really wish people would stop using RETRO-clone.  Retro meant "old".  The term retro-clone was used because stuff like the clones created of the 1st Edition D&D games were not the current D&D being used.

Unless you are going back several revisions, there's nothing "retro" about it.  It's just a clone.  Start using clone.  Using retro-clone for all clones is as bad as "literally" being used as its own antonym.

Yeah because WRFP 1/2 are the latest current versions, easily available...or not.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

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July 17, 2015, 09:19:32 AM
I'm hoping to run Dark Albion with Zweihander

Ddogwood

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July 17, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: JRT;842426I really wish people would stop using RETRO-clone.  Retro meant "old".  The term retro-clone was used because stuff like the clones created of the 1st Edition D&D games were not the current D&D being used.

Unless you are going back several revisions, there's nothing "retro" about it.  It's just a clone.  Start using clone.  Using retro-clone for all clones is as bad as "literally" being used as its own antonym.

Since the "current" edition of WFRP is a boxed game with narrative dice mechanics and lots of fiddly board game-style counters, cards, and bits, and this game is clearly a callback to earlier editions of WFRP, published nearly 30 years ago, I'd say that the term "retro-clone" is perfectly appropriate in this case.

Scutter

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July 17, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: Sean !;842439I'm hoping to run Dark Albion with Zweihander
Me too

They look a perfect fit
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Arkansan

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July 17, 2015, 11:58:22 AM
Quote from: Sean !;842439I'm hoping to run Dark Albion with Zweihander

Same here! I also though about using it in conjunction with Heroes of the Dark Age.

ZWEIHÄNDER

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July 17, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: Sean !;842439I'm hoping to run Dark Albion with Zweihander

I purposefully purchased a copy of Dark Albion for this very reason!
No thanks.

ZWEIHÄNDER

#12
July 17, 2015, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: Scutter;842401Only happened upon this game about a week ago and it looks pretty good.

The obvious question is, can you use this to run WFRP 1ed adventures?

Thanks for the feedback.

And the answer is a resolute YES. It is written directly as an analogue to both editions, with a "new school" twist on mechanics.

Now that we've managed to tackle Magick in a major way, we're hoping to have an open Q&A with Dan Davenport.

In the meantime you can take a look here to download the GRIMDARK beta version.
No thanks.

Simlasa

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July 17, 2015, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: ZWEIHÄNDER;842520It is written directly as an analogue to both editions, with a "new school" twist on mechanics.
What's this 'new school twist'?
If I've got most of the stuff from 1e and 2e WFRP what does Zwiehander have to offer me?

Scutter

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July 17, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Quote from: ZWEIHÄNDER;842520Thanks for the feedback.

And the answer is a resolute YES. It is written directly as an analogue to both editions, with a "new school" twist on mechanics.

Now that we've managed to tackle Magick in a major way, we're hoping to have an open Q&A with Dan Davenport.

In the meantime you can take a look here to download the GRIMDARK beta version.
Brilliant!
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