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Title: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Thread closed for comment over on EN World because "obviously" ::) https://www.enworld.org/threads/gen-con-announces-badges-can-include-pronouns.685455/

Options on the badges are:

(blank)
Ask me my pronouns
He/Him
She/Her
They/Them
He/She/They

I would be tempted to opt for 'Ask me my pronouns' and then when asked say fuck/you.

Blazing Saddles had it right - "Badges, we don't need no sticking badges."
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Omega on January 19, 2022, 06:22:52 PM
Woke-Con.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Dark Train on January 19, 2022, 06:59:35 PM
How does He/She/They even work grammatically?  Or does that mean I get to pick as the spirit moves me?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: HappyDaze on January 19, 2022, 07:06:37 PM
What if no pronouns are acceptable? Demand to be called by name at all times!
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: markmohrfield on January 19, 2022, 07:12:04 PM
What? There's no option for "it"?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Crusader X on January 19, 2022, 07:18:53 PM
What about adjectives?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on January 19, 2022, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Options on the badges are:

(blank)
Ask me my pronouns
He/Him
She/Her
They/Them
He/She/They
Wait, how does that last one work?
He needs a d6.
Okay, give the d6 to she!
Now it's they d6?

Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: The Spaniard on January 19, 2022, 07:28:11 PM
Good grief...  do they even play games there or is it all about how much virtue they all signal?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: zend0g on January 19, 2022, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 19, 2022, 07:27:40 PM
Wait, how does that last one work?
He needs a d6.
Okay, give the d6 to she!
Now it's they d6?
Oh, no make that your pronouns. My pronouns are d8/d6.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: BoxCrayonTales on January 19, 2022, 08:39:44 PM
This is why I don't have pronouns. I hate pronouns.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Thorn Drumheller on January 19, 2022, 08:43:54 PM
eh, it was....inevitable.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Kyle Aaron on January 19, 2022, 09:20:20 PM
Surely your name badge can include whatever you like? If you want to call yourself Pilot Pirx or Sir Lancelot or She/Her Bob or whatever, that's entirely up to you. It is after all a roleplaying game convention.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Ratman_tf on January 19, 2022, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on January 19, 2022, 09:20:20 PM
Surely your name badge can include whatever you like? If you want to call yourself Pilot Pirx or Sir Lancelot or She/Her Bob or whatever, that's entirely up to you. It is after all a roleplaying game convention.

Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Jam The MF on January 19, 2022, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Thread closed for comment over on EN World because "obviously" ::) https://www.enworld.org/threads/gen-con-announces-badges-can-include-pronouns.685455/

Options on the badges are:

(blank)
Ask me my pronouns
He/Him
She/Her
They/Them
He/She/They

I would be tempted to opt for 'Ask me my pronouns' and then when asked say fuck/you.

Blazing Saddles had it right - "Badges, we don't need no sticking badges."


Mine would read, "Your Royal Highness".  Either that, or "Dirk Diggler".
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Omega on January 20, 2022, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on January 19, 2022, 09:20:20 PM
Surely your name badge can include whatever you like? If you want to call yourself Pilot Pirx or Sir Lancelot or She/Her Bob or whatever, that's entirely up to you. It is after all a roleplaying game convention.

What if I want to identify as the Kosmokrator?  8)
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: tenbones on January 20, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
I care only enough to post this:

Who cares?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: jeff37923 on January 20, 2022, 05:38:13 PM
What pronouns are used for the gender identity of an Attack Helicopter?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: SHARK on January 20, 2022, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: tenbones on January 20, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
I care only enough to post this:

Who cares?

Greetings!

*Laughing* Yeah, exactly. After the last several years, with the "Safety Tools"; Stacking committees with SJW's; Imposing stupid and insulting convention "Guidelines"; Them firing Conservative guests, speakers, etc. On and on.

Why would anyone even want to go to Gen Con? If Gen Con choked on napalm, why would anyone care?

Gen Con has been overtaken by monstrous, commie tyrant jackasses, and have absolutely ruined a decades-old reputation, and have become utterly irrelevant. No one cares what they think. No one cares what they feel. No one cares what they do. Gen Con is fucking done with.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on January 20, 2022, 07:32:00 PM
GenCon missed an opportunity here. They should have charged to add a pronoun to your badge, and included a note that 50% of the proceeds from the pronoun funds would go to some national LGBTQ+ group. That way people who care about this and who like to signal would have bought it out of obligation, and GenCon would have made money doing that for them, both in direct funds and in the donation tax write off. Have these people not learned that the only way you normalize new things is to incorporate them into the capitalism competition model?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Ocule on January 20, 2022, 07:59:20 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 20, 2022, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: tenbones on January 20, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
I care only enough to post this:

Who cares?

Greetings!

*Laughing* Yeah, exactly. After the last several years, with the "Safety Tools"; Stacking committees with SJW's; Imposing stupid and insulting convention "Guidelines"; Them firing Conservative guests, speakers, etc. On and on.

Why would anyone even want to go to Gen Con? If Gen Con choked on napalm, why would anyone care?

Gen Con has been overtaken by monstrous, commie tyrant jackasses, and have absolutely ruined a decades-old reputation, and have become utterly irrelevant. No one cares what they think. No one cares what they feel. No one cares what they do. Gen Con is fucking done with.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'd care if they choked on napalm! I could watch that shit all day and bring popcorn!
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Lunamancer on January 20, 2022, 11:38:39 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 20, 2022, 07:32:00 PM
GenCon missed an opportunity here. They should have charged to add a pronoun to your badge, and included a note that 50% of the proceeds from the pronoun funds would go to some national LGBTQ+ group. That way people who care about this and who like to signal would have bought it out of obligation, and GenCon would have made money doing that for them, both in direct funds and in the donation tax write off. Have these people not learned that the only way you normalize new things is to incorporate them into the capitalism competition model?

People care about things. Right up to the point where it costs them a big mac. Then you find out how fake they are.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: THE_Leopold on January 21, 2022, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 20, 2022, 07:32:00 PM
GenCon missed an opportunity here. They should have charged to add a pronoun to your badge, and included a note that 50% of the proceeds from the pronoun funds would go to some national LGBTQ+ group. That way people who care about this and who like to signal would have bought it out of obligation, and GenCon would have made money doing that for them, both in direct funds and in the donation tax write off. Have these people not learned that the only way you normalize new things is to incorporate them into the capitalism competition model?

You make it sound like this is a logical, sane, and well thought out idea of putting pronouns on badges not just something their Chief Diversity Officer mandated in order to protect the .01% of the population for woke points.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: hedgehobbit on January 21, 2022, 11:49:14 AM
Pronouns on badges don't even make logical sense. If you are talking to someone with a badge, you will say "you". Pronouns are only for speaking about someone in third person which, typically, never happens and most certainly won't happen to someone you don't even know.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on January 21, 2022, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on January 21, 2022, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 20, 2022, 07:32:00 PM
GenCon missed an opportunity here. They should have charged to add a pronoun to your badge, and included a note that 50% of the proceeds from the pronoun funds would go to some national LGBTQ+ group. That way people who care about this and who like to signal would have bought it out of obligation, and GenCon would have made money doing that for them, both in direct funds and in the donation tax write off. Have these people not learned that the only way you normalize new things is to incorporate them into the capitalism competition model?

You make it sound like this is a logical, sane, and well thought out idea of putting pronouns on badges not just something their Chief Diversity Officer mandated in order to protect the .01% of the population for woke points.

Agreed. What they need is a good Ferengi behind the scenes. Asking the tough questions, like just how much do our woke patrons make per year, and how much can we separate from their wallet in the name of their causes?

When someone claims "It's unfair to charge underprivileged people to declare their identity" you say, "You know you're right. Which is why we're also instituting a "Fund an Underprivileged Patron"  program. You can buy someone else a pronoun which they cannot afford to buy for themselves, and you will get a special sticker on your badge to indicate you funded that program!"

And if this whole thing were financially successful news of that would spread, and other cons would start to do it too. So if you believe in the pronoun concept for convention badges, you should support profitizing the programs like this!

Seriously, if the cause is real and popular, making it part of our economy rather than giving it away for free combined with what feels like top-down directives is the way to go. That is how you normalize things - by selling them and making them feel limited in supply.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: jhkim on January 21, 2022, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: hedgehobbit on January 21, 2022, 11:49:14 AM
Pronouns on badges don't even make logical sense. If you are talking to someone with a badge, you will say "you". Pronouns are only for speaking about someone in third person which, typically, never happens and most certainly won't happen to someone you don't even know.

When I'm at a game convention, my typical situation is playing a game with 4 to 6 other strangers around a table. In that case, I regularly find I use third-person pronouns for other people at the table I'm playing at. i.e. "Well, if he's going to block the doorway, then I'll go around the back" or "What did she say?"  At an RPG, much of the pronoun use is for character, but players also get referenced regularly. Plus game conventions also have board games, card games, and so forth.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Shrieking Banshee on January 21, 2022, 01:46:49 PM
Pronouns are nonsense fetish material. But its no-suprise from gen-con at this point.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 21, 2022, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: jhkim on January 21, 2022, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: hedgehobbit on January 21, 2022, 11:49:14 AM
Pronouns on badges don't even make logical sense. If you are talking to someone with a badge, you will say "you". Pronouns are only for speaking about someone in third person which, typically, never happens and most certainly won't happen to someone you don't even know.

When I'm at a game convention, my typical situation is playing a game with 4 to 6 other strangers around a table. In that case, I regularly find I use third-person pronouns for other people at the table I'm playing at. i.e. "Well, if he's going to block the doorway, then I'll go around the back" or "What did she say?"  At an RPG, much of the pronoun use is for character, but players also get referenced regularly. Plus game conventions also have board games, card games, and so forth.

Preferred pronouns ARE bullshit, as is the infinity genders BS. But since you do agree with them then I demand you use MY preferred pronouns : Sir, Master, Lord.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: VisionStorm on January 21, 2022, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 21, 2022, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on January 21, 2022, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 20, 2022, 07:32:00 PM
GenCon missed an opportunity here. They should have charged to add a pronoun to your badge, and included a note that 50% of the proceeds from the pronoun funds would go to some national LGBTQ+ group. That way people who care about this and who like to signal would have bought it out of obligation, and GenCon would have made money doing that for them, both in direct funds and in the donation tax write off. Have these people not learned that the only way you normalize new things is to incorporate them into the capitalism competition model?

You make it sound like this is a logical, sane, and well thought out idea of putting pronouns on badges not just something their Chief Diversity Officer mandated in order to protect the .01% of the population for woke points.

Agreed. What they need is a good Ferengi behind the scenes. Asking the tough questions, like just how much do our woke patrons make per year, and how much can we separate from their wallet in the name of their causes?

When someone claims "It's unfair to charge underprivileged people to declare their identity" you say, "You know you're right. Which is why we're also instituting a "Fund an Underprivileged Patron"  program. You can buy someone else a pronoun which they cannot afford to buy for themselves, and you will get a special sticker on your badge to indicate you funded that program!"

And if this whole thing were financially successful news of that would spread, and other cons would start to do it too. So if you believe in the pronoun concept for convention badges, you should support profitizing the programs like this!

Seriously, if the cause is real and popular, making it part of our economy rather than giving it away for free combined with what feels like top-down directives is the way to go. That is how you normalize things - by selling them and making them feel limited in supply.

This...makes a strange kind of sense.

Let them pay!  8)
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: SHARK on January 21, 2022, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 21, 2022, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: jhkim on January 21, 2022, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: hedgehobbit on January 21, 2022, 11:49:14 AM
Pronouns on badges don't even make logical sense. If you are talking to someone with a badge, you will say "you". Pronouns are only for speaking about someone in third person which, typically, never happens and most certainly won't happen to someone you don't even know.

When I'm at a game convention, my typical situation is playing a game with 4 to 6 other strangers around a table. In that case, I regularly find I use third-person pronouns for other people at the table I'm playing at. i.e. "Well, if he's going to block the doorway, then I'll go around the back" or "What did she say?"  At an RPG, much of the pronoun use is for character, but players also get referenced regularly. Plus game conventions also have board games, card games, and so forth.

Preferred pronouns ARE bullshit, as is the infinity genders BS. But since you do agree with them then I demand you use MY preferred pronouns : Sir, Master, Lord.

*Laughing* You know, Geeky, "Sir, Master, Lord" sounds very nice, and appropriate. Has a masculine, old-world feel to it. I like it.

I feel the same way about it, too.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Skullking on January 21, 2022, 03:39:00 PM
One way to avoid this pronoun nonsense is just call every at Gen Con a twat.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Ghostmaker on January 21, 2022, 03:50:50 PM
To borrow a line, 'My pronouns are beep/boop/blip'.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on January 21, 2022, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 21, 2022, 03:50:50 PM
To borrow a line, 'My pronouns are beep/boop/blip'.

It's 'boop/bop/beep' you robotphobic cretin!
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 21, 2022, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: Skullking on January 21, 2022, 03:39:00 PM
One way to avoid this pronoun nonsense is just call every at Gen Con a twat.

Or pretend to be an Aussie and call everybody a cunt.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Zalman on January 21, 2022, 04:47:46 PM
I'm definitely in the "Ask me my pronouns" camp. Because then I'm alerted to anyone intending to talk about me behind my back!

My answer would still be "Why would I care what pronoun you use when I'm not even there? Use whatever works best to communicate with the person you're talking to."

Now if the Con asks me to display my 2nd person pronouns which -- unless your intention is to be rude and then who cares anyway? -- is the grammatical tense one should use in the presence of the person being talked about, I have no problem with that.

I'll go with "Thou/Thee/Thine".
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Shasarak on January 21, 2022, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Thread closed for comment over on EN World because "obviously" ::)

Obvious Troll is Obvious.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: soundchaser on January 22, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Blazing Saddles had it right - "Badges, we don't need no sticking badges."
Sorry. A query. That line is in Blazing Saddles? Wow. In interesting mode, then, to the line in Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: palaeomerus on January 22, 2022, 10:02:54 AM
Pay a lot of money to get a crack at a glorified merch dealer's room, wear your mask at all times, adhere to weird neo-linguistics to prove you are not the worst person ever, and maybe get attacked by a lunatic at a bar or your hotel, all so you can see unstable people show you their pre-kickstarter card or board game or get a copy of a zine that might be collectable.

Filk? What's that? Smof? No thank you, I quit.

What a charming proposition.

I'll pass.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Skullking on January 22, 2022, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: soundchaser on January 22, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Blazing Saddles had it right - "Badges, we don't need no sticking badges."
Sorry. A query. That line is in Blazing Saddles? Wow. In interesting mode, then, to the line in Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
The blazing saddles phrase is a parody reference to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, both great films.
BS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI9jFp0cnig
TTotSM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OcM23Hbs5U
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Arkansan on January 22, 2022, 12:56:50 PM
If it's the only way the badges come then fuck that, if it's just an option that is there for those that want it then whatever.

Though if forced my pronouns are Blow/Me.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on January 22, 2022, 01:02:59 PM
I still scratch my head at all this pronouns lark.

Not that I'd ever go to Gen(ital) Con. But I'd never comply with any of this nonsense. If other people want to engage with it, then fine. But I will not  engage in such folly that only affects 0.01 of the worlds population.

I just don't care, who or what you look like and I expect the same ambivalence in return.

Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Opaopajr on January 22, 2022, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: Skullking on January 19, 2022, 05:38:53 PM
Thread closed for comment over on EN World because "obviously" ::) https://www.enworld.org/threads/gen-con-announces-badges-can-include-pronouns.685455/

Options on the badges are:

(blank)
Ask me my pronouns
He/Him
She/Her
They/Them
He/She/They

[...]

GenCon is ruined!  >:(

Oh wait, (blank) -- meaning non-participation -- is an available option. Whew! 

GenCon is saved!  8)

Actually, I've never gone.  :) Always thought it'd be fun, but after working at game conventions in my youth I no longer feel a strong desire. Seems pretty costly, then you get sick after spreading everyone's long distance cooties, and next that latter day funk... Throw eggshells upon the floor to walk on (people are more stressed and uptight now) and I am gonna pass. I just wanted to see the vendors room and maybe the auction room.

I'd personally stick to a cheaper local convention if I really cared. Must be nice for people who business travel a lot, or to keep in touch with long distance friends.  :D
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Trinculoisdead on January 26, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
My "cheaper local convention" just sent me an email advertising a new grant program for marginalized game designers.

https://www.bigbadcon.com/blog/our-new-story-synth-microgrant-program/

Basically, submit an application and create a game in 6 months and you'll be awarded $300 dollars and micro-transactions whenever anyone accesses your game online.

But, of course, I can't apply unless I pretend to be a faggot or something. The application is only open to: "Marginalized Gender, Disabled, BIMPOC (???), LGBTQUIA+, and Identity [Other].

Oh, and get this, you can check multiple boxes, and website says the program is focused on helping game designers at the intersection of these identities. So if I were a morbidly obese black lesbian they would drool all over my application.

As a straight white, able-bodied male who works construction... odds are not so good.

I don't think I shall be attending this year BigBadCon, you furry-loving pricks.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Jam The MF on January 26, 2022, 08:07:35 PM
Will they allow "It", to be placed upon the badges?  Neither he, nor she; but It.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: oggsmash on January 26, 2022, 09:28:43 PM
   So the super scared of the worst pandemic ever crowd is going to have a mass gathering and see if they can spawn yet another variant of Captain Tripps?   I guess at least they do not want to offend anyone as they hold a mass super spreader event.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: horsesoldier on January 27, 2022, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Trinculoisdead on January 26, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
My "cheaper local convention" just sent me an email advertising a new grant program for marginalized game designers.

https://www.bigbadcon.com/blog/our-new-story-synth-microgrant-program/

Basically, submit an application and create a game in 6 months and you'll be awarded $300 dollars and micro-transactions whenever anyone accesses your game online.

But, of course, I can't apply unless I pretend to be a faggot or something. The application is only open to: "Marginalized Gender, Disabled, BIMPOC (???), LGBTQUIA+, and Identity [Other].

Oh, and get this, you can check multiple boxes, and website says the program is focused on helping game designers at the intersection of these identities. So if I were a morbidly obese black lesbian they would drool all over my application.

As a straight white, able-bodied male who works construction... odds are not so good.

I don't think I shall be attending this year BigBadCon, you furry-loving pricks.

My formerly local con stopped using Gamemaster and went to host instead. Never went again. I think this was a decade ago.

I find I like the idea of a con more than the actual experience usually, anyway.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Ruprecht on January 27, 2022, 12:13:45 PM
If only two or three people specified their pronouns would Gen Con admit it?
Or would they just announce the new pronoun initiative was a great success.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: squirewaldo on January 27, 2022, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Trinculoisdead on January 26, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
My "cheaper local convention" just sent me an email advertising a new grant program for marginalized game designers.

https://www.bigbadcon.com/blog/our-new-story-synth-microgrant-program/

Basically, submit an application and create a game in 6 months and you'll be awarded $300 dollars and micro-transactions whenever anyone accesses your game online.

But, of course, I can't apply unless I pretend to be a faggot or something. The application is only open to: "Marginalized Gender, Disabled, BIMPOC (???), LGBTQUIA+, and Identity [Other].

Oh, and get this, you can check multiple boxes, and website says the program is focused on helping game designers at the intersection of these identities. So if I were a morbidly obese black lesbian they would drool all over my application.

As a straight white, able-bodied male who works construction... odds are not so good.

I don't think I shall be attending this year BigBadCon, you furry-loving pricks.

I think I shall make a submission: I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body, and I identify as black because I love soul food... and who doesn't???? Now for my submission that I need to polish up a bit: SJW RPG:  Who to Cancel Next?!
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: HappyDaze on January 27, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 27, 2022, 12:13:45 PM
If only two or three people specified their pronouns would Gen Con admit it?
Or would they just announce the new pronoun initiative was a great success.
If those two or three people were happy, then sure. No guarantees they'd be happy though.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on January 21, 2022, 01:46:49 PM
Pronouns are nonsense fetish material. But its no-suprise from gen-con at this point.
Exactly. It's a fetish of rare identities. It's cool to be trans/non-binary these days, but not everyone is that cool, but we can be cool adjacent by specifying our pronouns!

I've seen this in the wild on several occasions. Here is how it plays out:

<1% have pronouns that surprise you (cool kids)
95% have the regular pronouns you would expect (idiots)
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")


Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Jam The MF on January 27, 2022, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

Papers!!!  Papers!!!

They should rename it, Nazi Con.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mind Crime on January 28, 2022, 12:44:19 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

i use JOBS 1.25s. But I'm cheap.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: CookieMonster on January 28, 2022, 02:26:41 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.
Glory to Arstotzka, Comrade.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: oggsmash on January 28, 2022, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 27, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 27, 2022, 12:13:45 PM
If only two or three people specified their pronouns would Gen Con admit it?
Or would they just announce the new pronoun initiative was a great success.
If those two or three people were happy, then sure. No guarantees they'd be happy though.

  I have some serious doubts that anyone serious about their pronouns is ever happy.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: HappyDaze on January 28, 2022, 05:08:14 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on January 28, 2022, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 27, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 27, 2022, 12:13:45 PM
If only two or three people specified their pronouns would Gen Con admit it?
Or would they just announce the new pronoun initiative was a great success.
If those two or three people were happy, then sure. No guarantees they'd be happy though.

  I have some serious doubts that anyone serious about their pronouns is ever happy.
That was my point, though I'd like to be optimistic and think that there might be exceptions.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Omega on January 28, 2022, 05:10:37 PM
Oh they are happy.

When they can use it as a weapon against someone else.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on January 29, 2022, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

1.   having a base, or having as a base ; supported
2.  wearing, or protected by, bases
3.  founded on; having a basis; often used in combining forms
4.  addicted to crack cocaine
5.  being yourself and not caring what others think of you—to carry yourself with swagger
6.  a general term of praise, as if "un-woke"

I found a number of definitions of "based" in dictionaries and other places on the internet.
I don't know, because it's new to me.
What do you think the poster was trying to say?


Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: rytrasmi on January 29, 2022, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Oh boy you sure showed me!
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 30, 2022, 02:56:00 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.

Pappiere bite!
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: jeff37923 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.

I'll just put them right next to my Star of David.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event. 

Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...

My point (hurr look at stupid me still trying to make my point) is that 95% of people go along with the pronoun bullshit. Most are not true believers. If they support nu pronouns, it's an exceedingly low-effort virtue signal. If they are against, the cost is low enough that they still go along with it. People in the 95% often use normal pronouns for the <1% when the <1% are not around. What does this mean? It means that people who go with the blank are going to be viewed as extremists by the 95% mushy middle. What can be done about it? Don't fucking specify your pronouns even if it's a little awkward. Don't be part of the 95% go alongs. I've seen numerous based people go along with it because the cost is low. This just makes the 5% look extreme when really it's not.


Edit: bolded the word based so the shitheads around here can continue to bicker about it.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Shasarak on January 31, 2022, 05:23:43 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.

For some people it was the worse mocking of their life, for others it was Tuesday.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.
Have you started yet? Still waiting...what a weak sauce (*) mocking.

(*) Poll: Did rytrasmi use this slang correctly?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Omega on January 31, 2022, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 29, 2022, 07:37:29 PM
I found a number of definitions of "based" in dictionaries and other places on the internet.
I don't know, because it's new to me.
What do you think the poster was trying to say?

Could go many ways after re-reading it.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 29, 2022, 07:37:29 PM
1.   having a base, or having as a base ; supported
2.  wearing, or protected by, bases
3.  founded on; having a basis; often used in combining forms
4.  addicted to crack cocaine
5.  being yourself and not caring what others think of you—to carry yourself with swagger
6.  a general term of praise, as if "un-woke"

I found a number of definitions of "based" in dictionaries and other places on the internet.
I don't know, because it's new to me.
What do you think the poster was trying to say?

Quote from: Omega on January 31, 2022, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 29, 2022, 07:37:29 PM
I found a number of definitions of "based" in dictionaries and other places on the internet.
I don't know, because it's new to me.
What do you think the poster was trying to say?

Could go many ways after re-reading it.
"being yourself and not caring what others think of you" fits. I was going for simple, unpretentious, and forthright. Perhaps I missed the mark. Perhaps there's a note of self praise. Er, that wasn't the intent, but I don't know. That's my explanation at risk of further distraction. Some Twitterati doing a drive by on my possible imprecise use of slang, that's not what this thread is about.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.
Have you started yet? Still waiting...what a weak sauce (*) mocking.

(*) Poll: Did rytrasmi use this slang correctly?
I never mocked you. I just defined how the term was used, and you've been acting like a baby ever since.

Like I said, you deserve all the mocking you get.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Eirikrautha on February 01, 2022, 06:43:23 AM
Quote from: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.
Have you started yet? Still waiting...what a weak sauce (*) mocking.

(*) Poll: Did rytrasmi use this slang correctly?
I never mocked you. I just defined how the term was used, and you've been acting like a baby ever since.

Like I said, you deserve all the mocking you get.

So, "I've never mocked you; I just encourage/approve everyone else mocking you"?  That's the most childish non-denial I think I've ever heard.  You're better than that, Pat.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: KingCheops on February 01, 2022, 10:51:42 AM
My pronouns are a red triangle and beep/bop/boop.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on February 01, 2022, 06:43:23 AM
Quote from: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.
Have you started yet? Still waiting...what a weak sauce (*) mocking.

(*) Poll: Did rytrasmi use this slang correctly?
I never mocked you. I just defined how the term was used, and you've been acting like a baby ever since.

Like I said, you deserve all the mocking you get.

So, "I've never mocked you; I just encourage/approve everyone else mocking you"?  That's the most childish non-denial I think I've ever heard.  You're better than that, Pat.
Rytrasmi badly misused a technical term, and got mocked for it. This confused several posters, so I explained how the technical term is used, and why that kind of usage is mocked. For that, I got attacked by Rytrasmi, who doubled down on his cluelessness. So yes, Rytrasmi deserves to be mocked. Not for misusing the term, but for attacking people who are trying to be helpful, and having this huge crying fit about it.

I'm tired of this shit. I try to be helpful, I get attacked for it, and then posters like you come in and blame me. Fuck the hell off.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: rytrasmi on February 01, 2022, 03:03:03 PM
Technical term? Huh?

I was not attacking you Pat I was poking fun at people who get hypersensitive about terminology.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Eirikrautha on February 01, 2022, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on February 01, 2022, 06:43:23 AM
Quote from: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 31, 2022, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on January 30, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on January 28, 2022, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 27, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
5% based assholes like me with the blank ("fuck this shit")

Hey guys, this fucking retard thinks they can call themself based proving that they don't even understand what the word means.

HO-LEE shit you're all dumb as a fucking brick.

Why would you attack someone in such a way because they disagree with you... I presume. That said, other than you having a negative view of someone, what exactly are you talking about? I don't understand what you are saying?
"Based" is used  to praise someone else. Using it to refer to yourself combines hubris with cluelessness, and tends to be severely mocked on forums where the term is popular.
You can't call yourself "based" wah wah wah cry cry cry poor baby. Who cares? Let's all argue about that and the definition of various slang while we're at it. What kind of person attacks someone over casual use of language? Hmmm...
You definitely deserve all the mocking you get.
Have you started yet? Still waiting...what a weak sauce (*) mocking.

(*) Poll: Did rytrasmi use this slang correctly?
I never mocked you. I just defined how the term was used, and you've been acting like a baby ever since.

Like I said, you deserve all the mocking you get.

So, "I've never mocked you; I just encourage/approve everyone else mocking you"?  That's the most childish non-denial I think I've ever heard.  You're better than that, Pat.
Rytrasmi badly misused a technical term, and got mocked for it. This confused several posters, so I explained how the technical term is used, and why that kind of usage is mocked. For that, I got attacked by Rytrasmi, who doubled down on his cluelessness. So yes, Rytrasmi deserves to be mocked. Not for misusing the term, but for attacking people who are trying to be helpful, and having this huge crying fit about it.

I'm tired of this shit. I try to be helpful, I get attacked for it, and then posters like you come in and blame me. Fuck the hell off.
Just being helpful = "You deserve to be mocked."  Sure, whatever you say...
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Redwanderer on February 01, 2022, 04:27:27 PM
GAAAAH, so another victory for the woke. Sure, the corner's being turned.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Shasarak on February 01, 2022, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:46:44 PM
Rytrasmi badly misused a technical term, and got mocked for it. This confused several posters, so I explained how the technical term is used, and why that kind of usage is mocked. For that, I got attacked by Rytrasmi, who doubled down on his cluelessness. So yes, Rytrasmi deserves to be mocked. Not for misusing the term, but for attacking people who are trying to be helpful, and having this huge crying fit about it.

I'm tired of this shit. I try to be helpful, I get attacked for it, and then posters like you come in and blame me. Fuck the hell off.

Wait, Based is a technical term now?

In that case Chad is going to blow your mind.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on February 01, 2022, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on February 01, 2022, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 01, 2022, 12:46:44 PM
Rytrasmi badly misused a technical term, and got mocked for it. This confused several posters, so I explained how the technical term is used, and why that kind of usage is mocked. For that, I got attacked by Rytrasmi, who doubled down on his cluelessness. So yes, Rytrasmi deserves to be mocked. Not for misusing the term, but for attacking people who are trying to be helpful, and having this huge crying fit about it.

I'm tired of this shit. I try to be helpful, I get attacked for it, and then posters like you come in and blame me. Fuck the hell off.

Wait, Based is a technical term now?

In that case Chad is going to blow your mind.
I'm going with the black slang.  Rytrasmi was saying he was freebasing.  It's a cry for help.  :P
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on February 01, 2022, 11:24:45 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on February 01, 2022, 04:26:39 PM
Just being helpful = "You deserve to be mocked."  Sure, whatever you say...
That was after.

Quote from: rytrasmi on February 01, 2022, 03:03:03 PM
Technical term? Huh?

I was not attacking you Pat I was poking fun at people who get hypersensitive about terminology.
Jargon, if you prefer. A term used with a specific meaning by a specific group of people, which often leads to confusion among people unfamiliar with that usage.

You were acting as a parody of someone hypersensitive? If the intent was benign, it's all good. But that's really hard to convey in text, especially with people who don't know you.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.

I'll just put them right next to my Star of David.

Yeah those two things are just like each other, right?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 02, 2022, 12:40:21 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?

And all conventions, stores, etc ALWAYS asked you for proof of vaccination...
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Omega on February 02, 2022, 12:45:59 AM
Quote from: Redwanderer on February 01, 2022, 04:27:27 PM
GAAAAH, so another victory for the woke. Sure, the corner's being turned.

For me this is iteration 3 of this hateful 'movement' Usually we'd be in the lull between one peak and the next. But instead its been maintaining momentum even as resistance increases.

WOTC was infiltrated by the 90s iteration and what we are seeing is just more of the same. Just more ham handed with the 2010 infiltration. Which is hilarious as they are infiltrating the already infiltrated. Probably why WOTC is so gung-ho now for the agenda.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: oggsmash on February 02, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?

  Crippling childhood diseases or a virus that the average age of death is 86.  About as similar as that star and card you were talking about.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on February 02, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?
I've attend hundreds of school events and never had to show my papers.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: jhkim on February 02, 2022, 07:38:53 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 02, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?
I've attend hundreds of school events and never had to show my papers.

Interesting. What state are you in, if I may ask? I know I had to show proof of vaccination (MMR, polio, DTap, Hep-B, and chickenpox) for my son when he first enrolled in grade school - and I had to show it for his day care as well. When I worked as a teacher, I had to show the same, and I also had to show a negative TB test.

I'm in California, but from what I see online, every state has vaccination requirements for students in K-12 and in day care, though some have religious exemptions. Here's the Texas vaccination requirements, for example:

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/school/school-requirements.aspx

Are you saying you applied for an exemption and thus didn't have to show vaccination?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: RPGPundit on February 02, 2022, 08:13:35 PM
Guys, be careful to keep this on the topic of gaming.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on February 02, 2022, 11:05:45 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 02, 2022, 12:40:21 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?

And all conventions, stores, etc ALWAYS asked you for proof of vaccination...

Did you or did you not attend a school which required your vaccination records in order to attend? Assuming you did, how is that meaningfully different to you than requiring records to attend an event?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Mistwell on February 02, 2022, 11:07:00 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 02, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?
I've attend hundreds of school events and never had to show my papers.

Not the school events - the school. Schools require vaccination records when you first get into them. Generally they require records on:

Polio.
Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR)
Hepatitis B.
Varicella (Chickenpox)

If you were cool showing records to attend school, why is it a massive denial of freedom to show the same kind of record to attend a gaming event?
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 02, 2022, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 02, 2022, 11:05:45 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 02, 2022, 12:40:21 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2022, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 30, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on January 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
Gen Con is also requiring you to show your papers to gain entry.

When has a convention not required you to show your papers to gain entry? No badge, no entry. That's...the entire purpose of the badge. Or are you saying showing more papers (a vax card) is some major burden in addition to your badge? Because, having had to show both before, they can even hang in the same lanyard together.
I will never show my medical history to attend a game convention or any other event.

cool story bro. I guess school was not an event, or did you not go to a school which required vaccination records?

And all conventions, stores, etc ALWAYS asked you for proof of vaccination...

Did you or did you not attend a school which required your vaccination records in order to attend?

Did conventions, stores, etc never required proof of vaccination to attend?

And the coof isn't nearly as bad for children as those diseases we vaccinate children against.

If it's not clear to you yet:

This is a false equivalence, because of the severity of those diseases (and the vaccines for those worked in giving you immunity) and because we're talking about conventions, which NEVER had asked for proof of vaccination for anything.

And you guys have lots of real anti-vaxers there who haven't been vaccinated against polio, etc.

So if they don't ask proof of vaccination for those when those vaccines do give you immunity why do they ask it for the coof?

My boy, fully vaccinated, isolated for a long ass while and going out only wearing a mask and only for important stuff, just got the Kung-Flu. And they themselves tell you the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting sick nor from passing it around.

So, vaccinated people can get it and pass it around just like non-vaccinated people. But you're okay with discriminating because reasons.

I'm fully vaccinated, didn't get whatever paper my government wanted me to get, because freedom and because fuck that noise. If any bussiness demands proof of vaccination they'll loose my money, because freedom and because fuck them and all the authoritarians demanding compliance and submission.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: RPGPundit on February 03, 2022, 03:12:10 PM
This is a last warning: keep it on the subject of the GAMING HOBBY.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on February 05, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Origins is also requiring face masks and proof of vaccination for attendees.
Proof of vaccination was apparently not a problem for their October event.

Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: DocJones on February 05, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Origins is also requiring face masks and proof of vaccination for attendees.
Proof of vaccination was apparently not a problem for their October event.

According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

Um, are you aware who makes up over 70% of the deaths? Older or fat or otherwise unheathy people. Wanna stop them from dying? Without destroying the economy and lives of everybody else?

Try this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

Now you're both protecting the most vulnerable while at the same time preserving the freedoms of them and everybody else.

And I will not say much more because I risk straying away from gamming.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: HappyDaze on February 06, 2022, 04:29:59 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

Um, are you aware who makes up over 70% of the deaths? Older or fat or otherwise unheathy people. Wanna stop them from dying? Without destroying the economy and lives of everybody else?

Try this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

Now you're both protecting the most vulnerable while at the same time preserving the freedoms of them and everybody else.

And I will not say much more because I risk straying away from gamming.
You cut out the overweight attendees and the attendance will bottom out.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on February 06, 2022, 04:29:59 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

Um, are you aware who makes up over 70% of the deaths? Older or fat or otherwise unheathy people. Wanna stop them from dying? Without destroying the economy and lives of everybody else?

Try this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

Now you're both protecting the most vulnerable while at the same time preserving the freedoms of them and everybody else.

And I will not say much more because I risk straying away from gamming.
You cut out the overweight attendees and the attendance will bottom out.

So? You're protecting the most vulnerable, I thought all the regulations were about saving grandma?

So no overweight person can attend the conventions, for their own good.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on February 06, 2022, 04:29:59 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

Um, are you aware who makes up over 70% of the deaths? Older or fat or otherwise unheathy people. Wanna stop them from dying? Without destroying the economy and lives of everybody else?

Try this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

Now you're both protecting the most vulnerable while at the same time preserving the freedoms of them and everybody else.

And I will not say much more because I risk straying away from gamming.
You cut out the overweight attendees and the attendance will bottom out.

So? You're protecting the most vulnerable, I thought all the regulations were about saving grandma?

So no overweight person can attend the conventions, for their own good.
Thank to the pandemic, discrimination based on all kinds of arbitrary criteria isn't just permitted, it's vociferously defended!

I'm waiting for a convention that requires all attendees to sign an oath of fealty to BLM.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: jhkim on February 06, 2022, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Yeah, I would also frequently get sick after going to gaming conventions. In my circles, the phenomenon was called "con crud". For the last few years pre-pandemic, I would always get my flu shot before going to conventions -- especially because I have some gaming friends who are immuno-compromised. It's never deterred me, but I've tried to keep infection in mind as I attend.


Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

Sorry to hear about your aunt, Omega. It sucks. My church's minister is sick with covid currently, but he seems to be recovering.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on February 06, 2022, 07:25:01 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:04:17 PM
Thank to the pandemic, discrimination based on all kinds of arbitrary criteria isn't just permitted, it's vociferously defended!

I'm waiting for a convention that requires all attendees to sign an oath of fealty to BLM.
Both Origins And GenCon are gatekeeping.  The requirement to present vaccine papers disproportionately affects people of color.
BTW the Columbus Convention Center does not have vaccine paper requirements for entry, this is solely a creation of Origins.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: oggsmash on February 07, 2022, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

   Well, I have a different take.  If you feel it is that dangerous there should be ZERO cons.  I agree with you about a large con being a massive germ fest (I got a touch of the crud back in 2016 at Gen Con) and there is no plausible reason, beyond a money grab for a con, and its organizers to even have an event IF they also believe this disease is so dangerous that proof of vaccination is needed to attend (and since Vaccines do zero for spreading covid, and as it turns out very little to lessen Omicron impact) it is a con that simply should not happen. 

   I would also ask, did your Aunt have any other issues that could cause her problems from getting Covid?  I ask not to be insensitive, as I also know a person who has died from Covid, but I only know one, and I know ALOT of people who have had covid (and 90 percent of them not vaxxed when they got it) including myself and my immediate family.   So i would never say it can not be dangerous, but, danger is relative.  Running 2 miles is zero danger for a relatively fit person.  It can be a death sentence for a long term couch potato. 
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: 3catcircus on February 07, 2022, 02:18:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on February 06, 2022, 04:29:59 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

Um, are you aware who makes up over 70% of the deaths? Older or fat or otherwise unheathy people. Wanna stop them from dying? Without destroying the economy and lives of everybody else?

Try this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

Now you're both protecting the most vulnerable while at the same time preserving the freedoms of them and everybody else.

And I will not say much more because I risk straying away from gamming.
You cut out the overweight attendees and the attendance will bottom out.

So? You're protecting the most vulnerable, I thought all the regulations were about saving grandma?

So no overweight person can attend the conventions, for their own good.

What's the Venn diagram look like for fat people, unhygienic people, and those who have no social manners who attend conventions.  I'm not talking about the merely fat, those who might do with a bit more deodorant on a hot summer afternoon, or the socially awkward.  I'm talking 409 lbs while diving into big macs, smelling like curdled milk mixed with bum piss, and the "this close to being institutionalized types who make up the majority of the mask mandate mafia" types of attendees.  I'm talking *real* specimens of defective humanity.

I think if you eliminated all of them from attending for their own health and safety, you'd be out of business  tout de suite...  Hence, we are where we are right now...
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2022, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 07, 2022, 02:18:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on February 06, 2022, 04:29:59 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
According to Mistwell this is perfectly fine because schools or something and we all should get used to the new normal of pappiere bitte if we wish to engage in civil life, and those untermensch unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed on the gaming coinventions of the ubermensch decent folk.

Um... You ARE aware of just how deadly this thing can be right?

Im guessing not.

My aunt was one of the 'believers' and refused to wear a mask, no vaccination, and went to all sorts of social gatherings.

She died of Covid about 2 months ago. It was not a pretty way to go either. At least it was relatively fast.

Now to be fair my home town has an insanely high Covid death rate for some reason.

But considering what massive disease vectors cons are. (I used to get massively sick after, and once during, ever GenCon I ever went to, and pretty much half the others too...) Part of me thinks proof of vaccination at all should be required.

Unfortunately I know all too well that the murder cultists out there would just fake a pass to get in and spread it if they could.

Um, are you aware who makes up over 70% of the deaths? Older or fat or otherwise unheathy people. Wanna stop them from dying? Without destroying the economy and lives of everybody else?

Try this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

Now you're both protecting the most vulnerable while at the same time preserving the freedoms of them and everybody else.

And I will not say much more because I risk straying away from gamming.
You cut out the overweight attendees and the attendance will bottom out.

So? You're protecting the most vulnerable, I thought all the regulations were about saving grandma?

So no overweight person can attend the conventions, for their own good.

What's the Venn diagram look like for fat people, unhygienic people, and those who have no social manners who attend conventions.  I'm not talking about the merely fat, those who might do with a bit more deodorant on a hot summer afternoon, or the socially awkward.  I'm talking 409 lbs while diving into big macs, smelling like curdled milk mixed with bum piss, and the "this close to being institutionalized types who make up the majority of the mask mandate mafia" types of attendees.  I'm talking *real* specimens of defective humanity.

I think if you eliminated all of them from attending for their own health and safety, you'd be out of business  tout de suite...  Hence, we are where we are right now...

So far all of you have missed the most important part when you quote me. So let me point it out:

QuoteTry this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waiver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

This is a freedom respecting regulation, not an authoritarian one. You fall under the vulnerable group but DGAF? Sign on the dotted line and you can go inside.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: Pat on February 07, 2022, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2022, 03:07:41 PM

QuoteTry this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waiver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

This is a freedom respecting regulation, not an authoritarian one. You fall under the vulnerable group but DGAF? Sign on the dotted line and you can go inside.
I refuse to waive my right to reposability. If I need to have my arms moved into a new position, the Convention should be required to move my arms into a new position.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2022, 04:33:26 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 07, 2022, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2022, 03:07:41 PM

QuoteTry this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waiver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

This is a freedom respecting regulation, not an authoritarian one. You fall under the vulnerable group but DGAF? Sign on the dotted line and you can go inside.
I refuse to waive my right to reposability. If I need to have my arms moved into a new position, the Convention should be required to move my arms into a new position.

LOL, fair enough and good point.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: RandyB on February 07, 2022, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 07, 2022, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2022, 03:07:41 PM

QuoteTry this as a con regulation: No person over 60 years old, no person overweight and no person with diabetes, hearth, etc pre existing conditions may enter unless they sign a waiver relieving the convention of any and all resposability.

This is a freedom respecting regulation, not an authoritarian one. You fall under the vulnerable group but DGAF? Sign on the dotted line and you can go inside.
I refuse to waive my right to reposability. If I need to have my arms moved into a new position, the Convention should be required to move my arms into a new position.

Stretch? Stretch Armstrong? Is that you? ;)
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: VisionStorm on February 07, 2022, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 07, 2022, 02:18:28 PMWhat's the Venn diagram look like for fat people, unhygienic people, and those who have no social manners who attend conventions.  I'm not talking about the merely fat, those who might do with a bit more deodorant on a hot summer afternoon, or the socially awkward.  I'm talking 409 lbs while diving into big macs, smelling like curdled milk mixed with bum piss, and the "this close to being institutionalized types who make up the majority of the mask mandate mafia" types of attendees.  I'm talking *real* specimens of defective humanity.

I think if you eliminated all of them from attending for their own health and safety, you'd be out of business  tout de suite...  Hence, we are where we are right now...

Interestingly enough, none of the measures taken at the con will protect any of these people regardless, given that masks provide only dubious protection against airborne viruses (and we've know this for DECADES before Covid) and the experimental gene therapy vaccines not only provide dubious protection as well, but have also been proven to NOT stop the spread of the sickness. So their continued prescription as mandatory tools to protect obedient sheep clean decent people from the filthy "unvaxxed" rabble unvaccinated is merely part of an enduring fantasy that has been propagated and pushed nonstop surrounding this virus that bares no relation to actual reality.

Hence, why these game cons will still remain filthy vectors of disease (as they always were, if you wanna look at things through the lens of shitting your pants over a virus marginally more serious than the flu), even with all of these measures are taken.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: oggsmash on February 07, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on February 07, 2022, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 07, 2022, 02:18:28 PMWhat's the Venn diagram look like for fat people, unhygienic people, and those who have no social manners who attend conventions.  I'm not talking about the merely fat, those who might do with a bit more deodorant on a hot summer afternoon, or the socially awkward.  I'm talking 409 lbs while diving into big macs, smelling like curdled milk mixed with bum piss, and the "this close to being institutionalized types who make up the majority of the mask mandate mafia" types of attendees.  I'm talking *real* specimens of defective humanity.

I think if you eliminated all of them from attending for their own health and safety, you'd be out of business  tout de suite...  Hence, we are where we are right now...

Interestingly enough, none of the measures taken at the con will protect any of these people regardless, given that masks provide only dubious protection against airborne viruses (and we've know this for DECADES before Covid) and the experimental gene therapy vaccines not only provide dubious protection as well, but have also been proven to NOT stop the spread of the sickness. So their continued prescription as mandatory tools to protect obedient sheep clean decent people from the filthy "unvaxxed" rabble unvaccinated is merely part of an enduring fantasy that has been propagated and pushed nonstop surrounding this virus that bares no relation to actual reality.

Hence, why these game cons will still remain filthy vectors of disease (as they always were, if you wanna look at things through the lens of shitting your pants over a virus marginally more serious than the flu), even with all of these measures are taken.

   But, slapping up those requirements will in fact almost assure the folks at the con that they will not have to share space with the legions of alt right nazis who will not comply.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: VisionStorm on February 07, 2022, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 07, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on February 07, 2022, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 07, 2022, 02:18:28 PMWhat's the Venn diagram look like for fat people, unhygienic people, and those who have no social manners who attend conventions.  I'm not talking about the merely fat, those who might do with a bit more deodorant on a hot summer afternoon, or the socially awkward.  I'm talking 409 lbs while diving into big macs, smelling like curdled milk mixed with bum piss, and the "this close to being institutionalized types who make up the majority of the mask mandate mafia" types of attendees.  I'm talking *real* specimens of defective humanity.

I think if you eliminated all of them from attending for their own health and safety, you'd be out of business  tout de suite...  Hence, we are where we are right now...

Interestingly enough, none of the measures taken at the con will protect any of these people regardless, given that masks provide only dubious protection against airborne viruses (and we've know this for DECADES before Covid) and the experimental gene therapy vaccines not only provide dubious protection as well, but have also been proven to NOT stop the spread of the sickness. So their continued prescription as mandatory tools to protect obedient sheep clean decent people from the filthy "unvaxxed" rabble unvaccinated is merely part of an enduring fantasy that has been propagated and pushed nonstop surrounding this virus that bares no relation to actual reality.

Hence, why these game cons will still remain filthy vectors of disease (as they always were, if you wanna look at things through the lens of shitting your pants over a virus marginally more serious than the flu), even with all of these measures are taken.

   But, slapping up those requirements will in fact almost assure the folks at the con that they will not have to share space with the legions of alt right nazis who will not comply.

Yup. It's political gatekeeping by proxy. But it's important to remember that WE'RE the evil gatekeepers trying to prevent decent people from participating in the RPG hobby. They're just protecting themselves from our "known" bigotry and disease ridden carcasses.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: DocJones on February 07, 2022, 06:13:37 PM
GaryCon wants to see your papers also.

https://garycon.com/gary-con-xiv-cv-19-stance/

"So if you are coming to Gary Con, please be prepared to show proof of vaccination or a negative test in order to get your badge. "

Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2022, 06:14:10 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on February 07, 2022, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 07, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on February 07, 2022, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 07, 2022, 02:18:28 PMWhat's the Venn diagram look like for fat people, unhygienic people, and those who have no social manners who attend conventions.  I'm not talking about the merely fat, those who might do with a bit more deodorant on a hot summer afternoon, or the socially awkward.  I'm talking 409 lbs while diving into big macs, smelling like curdled milk mixed with bum piss, and the "this close to being institutionalized types who make up the majority of the mask mandate mafia" types of attendees.  I'm talking *real* specimens of defective humanity.

I think if you eliminated all of them from attending for their own health and safety, you'd be out of business  tout de suite...  Hence, we are where we are right now...

Interestingly enough, none of the measures taken at the con will protect any of these people regardless, given that masks provide only dubious protection against airborne viruses (and we've know this for DECADES before Covid) and the experimental gene therapy vaccines not only provide dubious protection as well, but have also been proven to NOT stop the spread of the sickness. So their continued prescription as mandatory tools to protect obedient sheep clean decent people from the filthy "unvaxxed" rabble unvaccinated is merely part of an enduring fantasy that has been propagated and pushed nonstop surrounding this virus that bares no relation to actual reality.

Hence, why these game cons will still remain filthy vectors of disease (as they always were, if you wanna look at things through the lens of shitting your pants over a virus marginally more serious than the flu), even with all of these measures are taken.

   But, slapping up those requirements will in fact almost assure the folks at the con that they will not have to share space with the legions of alt right nazis who will not comply.

Yup. It's political gatekeeping by proxy. But it's important to remember that WE'RE the evil gatekeepers trying to prevent decent people from participating in the RPG hobby. They're just protecting themselves from our "known" bigotry and disease ridden carcasses.

Boycott the conventions that establish these requirements and any brand that attends too.
Title: Re: Gen Con Announces Badges Can Include Pronouns
Post by: SHARK on February 07, 2022, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 07, 2022, 06:13:37 PM
GaryCon wants to see your papers also.

https://garycon.com/gary-con-xiv-cv-19-stance/

"So if you are coming to Gary Con, please be prepared to show proof of vaccination or a negative test in order to get your badge. "

Greetings!

Lots of hand sanitizer available! Social distancing enforced, vaccines required, and everyone must wear a mask when not eating and drinking.

Yes, because the virus won't spread when you are eating or drinking, right?

Yes, because vaccines are just so effective, right?

Bow down, like good little sheep!

What a bunch of guzzling pussies.

Fuck them all. Fuck them and their stupid convention.

Three years since the last convention? Whaa! Whaa! With all their stupid tyrant-fucking restrictions, it may as well be another three years. Or how about ten years?

How about a convention with FREEDOM, and no cock-sucking restrictions or requirements whatsoever? How about THAT, pussy?

All these fucking tyrant-loving hall-monitors and sheep disgust me. So sad.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK