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Gamescience™: damn right it is still the best

Started by Melan, February 26, 2013, 12:52:22 PM

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Benoist

#15
February 26, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;632072Why, thank you!

Really, though, it is easy to find and purchase effective useful dice right from the box when you don't fall for a bullshit advertising gimmick.
I guess gamers are like dice: they come in all shapes and sizes. Personally, I don't have dice from a single manufacturer but a whole bunch of different ones, including Chessex AND GameScience sets. I like the feel of the GS dice. I like the way they roll. I like to paint the numbers myself. And shave the bits too. I like to paint minis and the like so, it's no biggie, for me. I certainly don't consider having been victim of some "bullshit advertising gimmick." *shrug* Yeah. Whatever.

P&P

#16
February 26, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
The test was not neutral, in that the Gamescience dice were deliberately turned away from their sprue-faces.

The only good test for dice randomness is to roll the dice and record the numbers, lots and lots of times, and see if there's a statistically significant deviation from randomness.  No other test will do.

No problem if you like Gamescience, of course, that's up to you, I'm not judging.  I'm also not going to pay their inflated prices for unfinished dice.
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mhensley

#17
February 26, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: P&P;632117The only good test for dice randomness is to roll the dice and record the numbers, lots and lots of times, and see if there's a statistically significant deviation from randomness.  No other test will do.

No problem if you like Gamescience, of course, that's up to you, I'm not judging.  I'm also not going to pay their inflated prices for unfinished dice.

I've run tests like this on d20's and d6's.  The gs d20's were more fair but not dramatically so.  Their d6's, however, were the least fair of those I tested.

3rik

#18
February 27, 2013, 03:21:49 AM
Quote from: mhensley;632167I've run tests like this on d20's and d6's.  The gs d20's were more fair but not dramatically so.  Their d6's, however, were the least fair of those I tested.

It would be interesting to see the results if you'd repeat those tests using a dice cup.
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#19
February 27, 2013, 03:31:03 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;632058I actually prefer the old low impact dice from the B/X sets. Gamescience are cool too. At least you can still color them yourself.

That little d20 of yours is practically round now dude...
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#20
February 27, 2013, 04:57:55 AM
Quote from: Benoist;632030Take an X-acto knife. Place the blade horizontally, resting on one of the faces with the clip thing. Gently cut the clip crap off as you move the blade towards it. Go on the other face, place the blade horizontally, parallel to it, and do the same thing towards the clip. Repeat as necessary, until you have a nice clean angle in line with the faces.

I tried this with my D24, which had a huge sprue chunk on a facing.
I got it down to a bump, and sanded it down a bit, but I was concerned with gouging the die face, so left a bit of a bump there.

I remain unconvinced that the deviation of other dice is a big concern to the average gamer. The numbers I've seen are in the 100's or 1000's of rolls, and I really don't give too much of a fuck about that.
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Exploderwizard

#21
February 27, 2013, 07:46:00 AM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;632355That little d20 of yours is practically round now dude...

Old Brownie is retired. It doesn't get used in games anymore. I just keep it in the dice bag so all the other dice can absorb its awesomeness. :)
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#22
February 27, 2013, 07:59:05 AM
Oh, I'm a Gamescience man, for sure. I don't roll with any other brand. I purged my bags of all other dice some time ago (a few non-Gamescience survivors with sentimental value were removed to a smaller dice bag for safekeeping. I know it's all part of a dice fetish, but oh well.

I love getting a new set of dice, sitting down with my marker, and inking them. Perhaps it's because I order them from other companies than Gamescience, or I've just been lucky (the ones from Noble Knight might be pre-Gamestation, judging from package--their "ugly dice" set is a steal), but I've not had quality issues yet with them.
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jeff37923

#24
February 27, 2013, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Benoist;632103I guess gamers are like dice: they come in all shapes and sizes. Personally, I don't have dice from a single manufacturer but a whole bunch of different ones, including Chessex AND GameScience sets. I like the feel of the GS dice. I like the way they roll. I like to paint the numbers myself. And shave the bits too. I like to paint minis and the like so, it's no biggie, for me. I certainly don't consider having been victim of some "bullshit advertising gimmick." *shrug* Yeah. Whatever.

Defensive much?
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Benoist

#25
February 27, 2013, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;632465Defensive much?
Offensive much?

jeff37923

#26
February 27, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: Benoist;632468Offensive much?

Apparently only to those whose personal identity is based on what brand of dice they use....:D
"Meh."

Benoist

#27
February 27, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;632483Apparently only to those whose personal identity is based on what brand of dice they use....:D

Nah, see. Since that isn't my case, I can tell you you can come off as an asshat to other people too.

But don't we all at some point or other, heh? Just keep fucking that chicken, my friend. :D

jeff37923

#28
February 27, 2013, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Benoist;632488Nah, see. Since that isn't my case, I can tell you you can come off as an asshat to other people too.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Quote from: Benoist;632488But don't we all at some point or other, heh? Just keep fucking that chicken, my friend. :D

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Mistwell

#29
February 27, 2013, 03:22:39 PM
Jeff, being an asshole to his peers? Must be a day of the week ending in "ay".
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