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Gamescience™: damn right it is still the best

Started by Melan, February 26, 2013, 12:52:22 PM

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Melan

February 26, 2013, 12:52:22 PM Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 12:57:16 PM by Melan
So over here on this blog, the authors repeated Lou Zocchi's infamous demo picture about stacking up a bunch of dice from different manufacturers to see if the resulting dice towers were of even height:



Those dice still stack up - and when they retested them with precision equipment, it turned out the standard deviation of their face width is only a half of Koplow, their closest competitor. This means that, as discerning gamers have already known for a long time, Gamescience stays the undisputed gold standard of diceness in gaming. :pundit:
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The Traveller

#1
February 26, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
Please, gamers that want to roll like Sauron use thorn dice:



Stack those up, baby.
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#2
February 26, 2013, 01:00:40 PM
Too bad the dice are always fucked up from where they clip them off the frame.  I have two out of three d20s with a face that essentially can't be landed on; its not as big a deal with with the d4s - d12s.

The gem gamescience are really nice looking with their numbers filled in.  I even kind of dig the opaque ones when carefully done.

Benoist

#3
February 26, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Angry_Douchebag;632027Too bad the dice are always fucked up from where they clip them off the frame.  I have two out of three d20s with a face that essentially can't be landed on; its not as big a deal with with the d4s - d12s.
Take an X-acto knife. Place the blade horizontally, resting on one of the faces with the clip thing. Gently cut the clip crap off as you move the blade towards it. Go on the other face, place the blade horizontally, parallel to it, and do the same thing towards the clip. Repeat as necessary, until you have a nice clean angle in line with the faces.

thedungeondelver

#4
February 26, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
My powder blue gamescience dice are royally fucked up.  In addition to issues with the sprue, the facing numbers are so shallow they don't hold crayon.

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February 26, 2013, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Benoist;632030Take an X-acto knife. Place the blade horizontally, resting on one of the faces with the clip thing. Gently cut the clip crap off as you move the blade towards it. Go on the other face, place the blade horizontally, parallel to it, and do the same thing towards the clip. Repeat as necessary, until you have a nice clean angle in line with the faces.

I've never had to do this with any Chessex dice I've bought.
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Angry_Douchebag

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February 26, 2013, 01:21:20 PM Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 01:29:22 PM by Angry_Douchebag
Quote from: Benoist;632030Take an X-acto knife. Place the blade horizontally, resting on one of the faces with the clip thing. Gently cut the clip crap off as you move the blade towards it. Go on the other face, place the blade horizontally, parallel to it, and do the same thing towards the clip. Repeat as necessary, until you have a nice clean angle in line with the faces.

Yeah, I was able to do that with one and it worked great.  The unfortunate problem with the other two was that when they were clipped at the factory, part of the die face broke off at the same time.  One is missing the edge completely between two vertices, and the edge on another is badly messed up, too.  Still I got a really cool opaque red set out of the sets I bought that I filled in with white.

edit:Also, the red set I only just bought a few months ago, the two gem sets I picked up at a con five or six years ago now; I'm not sure if it was a QC issue that's since been rectified.

Mistwell

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February 26, 2013, 01:35:24 PM Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 01:37:48 PM by Mistwell
Somewhat soon, we will be buying a 3d printer.

And you know one of the first things I am doing with that bad boy is printing dice.  Dice with no spurs.  Dice which are accurate down to 50 microns (50 microns = 0.05 mm = 0.00196850394 inches″).  That, or down to 30 microns (we're undecided on which machine we're buying still).

Benoist

#8
February 26, 2013, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;632033I've never had to do this with any Chessex dice I've bought.
Good on ya!

Quote from: Angry_Douchebag;632034Yeah, I was able to do that with one and it worked great.  The unfortunate problem with the other two was that when they were clipped at the factory, part of the die face broke off at the same time.  One is missing the edge completely between two vertices, and the edge on another is badly messed up, too.  Still I got a really cool opaque red set out of the sets I bought that I filled in with white.

edit:Also, the red set I only just bought a few months ago, the two gem sets I picked up at a con five or six years ago now; I'm not sure if it was a QC issue that's since been rectified.
Yeah that's more problematic. I own about ... five sets, plus some d3, d5 and the like, and I have not run into a critical problem like that.

3rik

#9
February 26, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
GamePseudoScience... not again :rolleyes:
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Exploderwizard

#10
February 26, 2013, 02:12:54 PM
I actually prefer the old low impact dice from the B/X sets. Gamescience are cool too. At least you can still color them yourself.
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jeff37923

#11
February 26, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: Benoist;632049Good on ya!


Why, thank you!

Really, though, it is easy to find and purchase effective useful dice right from the box when you don't fall for a bullshit advertising gimmick.
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J Arcane

#12
February 26, 2013, 03:04:58 PM
My gamescience dice are so fucking full of flaws I don't even think they would stack.  

Maybe in Ye Olde Zocchi days they were great, but the ones put out under the name now are pure fucking overpriced excrement.
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#13
February 26, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
It's completely irrelevant if they have flaws or not. Just use a dice cup (or your hands) and slam - don't roll - your dice down on the table surface. Any perceived effects of uneven weight distribution, rounded edges, irregular surfaces and whatnot will be cancelled.
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crkrueger

#14
February 26, 2013, 03:29:34 PM
It is true, the QA of the new Gamescience dice is not the same, HOWEVER, as I've said before, if you order order dice from Gamestation.net and they come fucked up, they will send you new ones.

Basically, I think a liberal replacement policy is standing in for eyeball inspection at the factory, but the end result is, all my GS dice are great, because any ones that aren't, I get new ones (they don't even want the old ones back).

Does that help you if you buy them from a FLGS or someplace else? No, and that's a problem, so I just order them direct and don't worry about it.
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