I didn't go whole hog on the DF kickstarter, but I did build a dungeon out of the first three rooms:
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The 'new stuff" is the entrance chamber (yellow lights), turning hallway and small room (green light), and big circular chamber with side rooms (red lights).
It was pretty disastrous for the heroes. After dealing with the monster in the entrance chamber, and finding the secret door leading to the hallway, the bold half-goblin triggered a spiritual crossbow trap, firing down the hallway.
Being clever, he runs down the hallway and then ducks to the right, avoiding the radiant crossbow bolts. Alas, this triggers a wall of force and slice-and-dice trap, chopping him severely. He boldly opens the door and rushed into the next room, awaking Giant Elemental which launches vortexes at him.
Meanwhile, the rest of the party is two rooms behind him, trying to figure out how to get past the crossbow and take down the forcewall. The cleric dives into the next room, only to find there's stabby-spikey trap there...
Good times!
(normally I play with much of the dungeon covered, but pics were taken after the dungeon was cleared, with a re-stocking of monsters to give a good idea of what was in the place)
Gorgeous.
Can't wait to start buying sets! (I have a rather large gift certificate at DF :) )
Got the first part of our stuff in a few days ago, but since we didn't spring for pre-painted we've got some work to do (still gotta finish painting the Tablescapes Dungeon sets that came in before that, first). Really looking forward to the giant snake-themed room at the end.
Quote from: antiochcow;1045704Got the first part of our stuff in a few days ago, but since we didn't spring for pre-painted we've got some work to do (still gotta finish painting the Tablescapes Dungeon sets that came in before that, first). Really looking forward to the giant snake-themed room at the end.
Dayum, you went whole hog? Between the price and physically having some room issues, combined with some of those later rooms being too hard to use in sufficiently multiple scenarios, I just couldn't do it.
But they sure looked cool.
Quote from: Doom;1045745Dayum, you went whole hog? Between the price and physically having some room issues, combined with some of those later rooms being too hard to use in sufficiently multiple scenarios, I just couldn't do it.
But they sure looked cool.
That's my concern about such elaborate setups. Portability. I'd want to run a dungeon like that one day, just to say I did it, (looks very nice) but for day-to-day gaming, it seem like more effort than I'd want to put in.
I ordered specific pieces as my DF1 kickstarter order covered pretty much everything I normally do with dungeons. So I have a little more time to wait before getting the add-on sets.
I will say this : I have enough Dwarven Forge (w/o the new stuff which I'm eagerly looking to get when it releases retail) to build either the moathouse or the moathouse dungeon (not both at the same time, I don't think) from T1, the tournament portion of A1, the entire upper works map of A2, all of The Tomb of Horrors and all of White Plume Mountain. Layouts like that NEVER cease to attract people. They see it, and they sit and want to play. :)
I built out the central portion of the City state of the Invincible Overlord. The players appreciated the spectacle.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WKiylxmvg1k/VJezGPxtvAI/AAAAAAAALR8/_zbT9iCkcuw/s1600/IMG_2304.JPG)
A more traditional dungeon setup. One of my own design I wrote to try out Fantasy Age.
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Both are very nice. Did you cover the dungeon areas before the players arrived? I went with black cloths to cover unexplored sections and I find it's the best way to go. I'll even occasionally put a book or empty box or something next to the dungeon and cover it as well; keeps 'em guessing.
Quote from: thedungeondelver;1045800Both are very nice. Did you cover the dungeon areas before the players arrived? I went with black cloths to cover unexplored sections and I find it's the best way to go. I'll even occasionally put a book or empty box or something next to the dungeon and cover it as well; keeps 'em guessing.
City State no, I only outlined the building so there no additional info revealed.
For the other dungeon my normal MO is that I build the dungeon as we go. Generally I will keep to a 10x10 area once it gets to that size and tear down one side and add the other as the players explore. If they want to keep track of where they are in Tegel Manor or my own Majestic Fastness beyond that then they should learn to map. But in the specific case of the picture, the dungeon was one level and small enough to keep it all up.
This also reflect my experience dealing with actual dungeon mazes in live action roleplaying. Generally your situational awareness is such that you can keep it in your head up to a point. After that well, we mapped.
The trick is that I have things very organized through the use of these bad boys.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bt3tShjAOPs/VJe2j6CZnFI/AAAAAAAALSk/4N-H0hqOtCg/s1600/IMG_2406.JPG)
At most I have three sets of these and before the game I will break it out the containers and line them up on a second table. I have a fourth set that remains empty. When I got to a convention or know where the PC going to be at the next game store sessions, I will pull out what I need and just take the one crate. But if I want to I can fit everything in my Scion XB.
For my miniatures I do this. I can stack up to three foam trays per big container. For the plastic pre-painteds I just store them loose in the smaller tubs. Sorted by rough type of course.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E8JRkYLtyEI/VLlo3-pe1yI/AAAAAAAALcw/W3rvdC1RYnw/s1600/Storage_2.jpg)
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I used to use the below wooden milk crates I had since the early 80s. My mom snagged them and then let me have over a dozen of them. They are built like battleships.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LIQ48feMRpU/VLlo2Y4MQCI/AAAAAAAALck/SQiucsxogEc/s1600/storage_3.jpg)
Here my storage system working with the city stuff from KS 3. Normally I have three stack of the big tubs and two stacks of the small tubs. For this I had four stacks of the small tubs and two stacks of the big tubs because of all the small bits. I didn't order my KS City stuff very well. I got too many wall/doors and not enough floors. Overall KS1 (Dungeon), and KS 2(Caves) worked very nice. But KS 3 (City) is more a diorama building kit rather than something you can use to build on the fly the way I like.
Luckily I got some of the resin medieval building kit so I am somewhat covered. Because that I passed on KS 4 Castle. I ordered some sets of the crenelated pieces and small passages that works as a good enough castle.
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Well, you guys have me there.
I use a plastic container for the 3 basic pieces of a DF dungeon, then a for the off pieces (curves, angle walls, and bits). Another box for water pieces, another for lava, then small boxes for shrooms and stalagmites, a clear bag for small dressing, and a card box for larger dressing.
A shelving unit holds all the minis...but overall, not nearly so impressive as you guyss'.
I use plastic totes for the "new" Dwarven Forge, but I started back in 2000, so the bulk of my collection is actually in the custom-cut polystyrene trays and boxes it originally shipped in.
It always floored me when people would ask how best to protect and transport their Dwarven Forge (back in the day) and I'd say...why not use the boxes it came in? Like it was some incredible revelation! :)
Quote from: thedungeondelver;1045835I use plastic totes for the "new" Dwarven Forge, but I started back in 2000, so the bulk of my collection is actually in the custom-cut polystyrene trays and boxes it originally shipped in.
It always floored me when people would ask how best to protect and transport their Dwarven Forge (back in the day) and I'd say...why not use the boxes it came in? Like it was some incredible revelation! :)
I do that for my 5 sets (4x medieval building related, one dungeon resin) resin pieces but of course the dwarvenite pieces came in these flimsy cardboard boxes and plastic baggies that are torn open. So I had to come up with a scheme.
And just to show off I painted all my dungeon pieces. Took me two years before the last one was one. I enjoyed but went with pre-painted on cavern and city. However the KS5 I went back to unpainted so the result will match my DF 1 paint job and to maximize my buy.
Quote from: Doom;1045831Well, you guys have me there.
I use a plastic container for the 3 basic pieces of a DF dungeon, then a for the off pieces (curves, angle walls, and bits). Another box for water pieces, another for lava, then small boxes for shrooms and stalagmites, a clear bag for small dressing, and a card box for larger dressing.
A shelving unit holds all the minis...but overall, not nearly so impressive as you guyss'.
So you know the storage units I used can be found at Target. The battlefoam was kinda of pricey but I am not collecting any more metal minis if I can help it so I am set.
Quote from: estar;1045848I do that for my 5 sets (4x medieval building related, one dungeon resin) resin pieces but of course the dwarvenite pieces came in these flimsy cardboard boxes and plastic baggies that are torn open. So I had to come up with a scheme.
And just to show off I painted all my dungeon pieces. Took me two years before the last one was one. I enjoyed but went with pre-painted on cavern and city. However the KS5 I went back to unpainted so the result will match my DF 1 paint job and to maximize my buy.
Did you follow Stefan's painting guides? Or did you buy painted? I used his guide and damn the pieces I did came out amazing!
Quote from: estar;1045849So you know the storage units I used can be found at Target. The battlefoam was kinda of pricey but I am not collecting any more metal minis if I can help it so I am set.
Always buy storage for anything "off hobby". Case in point: Reaper wants $21 for a tote that holds 90 bottles of their paint. Meanwhile, $9 gets you a fishing tackle box with adjustable sections that is essentially identical (at Wal-Mart, in the sporting goods dept.)
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Quote from: thedungeondelver;1045864Did you follow Stefan's painting guides? Or did you buy painted? I used his guide and damn the pieces I did came out amazing!
More or less, his instruction were very helpful. I played around before I got a specific tone I liked. But i used his paints and did the same steps. I didn't like how whitish his dungeon piece looked. Mine are a bit darker. His paint quality is A+ among the best I ever worked with. I pick up a new set of colors when he releases them.
Quote from: thedungeondelver;1045865Always buy storage for anything "off hobby". Case in point: Reaper wants $21 for a tote that holds 90 bottles of their paint. Meanwhile, $9 gets you a fishing tackle box with adjustable sections that is essentially identical (at Wal-Mart, in the sporting goods dept.)
:)
Here my solution.
A wire rack thingie from AC Moore for the regular Acrylic paints.
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A lazy susan with the Dwarven Forge, Citadel Paints and other sundries. Along with my brush holder. You can see the Hirst Ars mold I used for dungeon props. A friend has the molds for bricks and buildings. It crazy how many times you have to cast to get anything useful. I use matte Mod Podge to protect the miniatures after painting.
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Finally a 3D Printed Green Devil face that I am going to paint the next time I run Tomb of Horror.
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Quote from: Doom;1045745Dayum, you went whole hog? Between the price and physically having some room issues, combined with some of those later rooms being too hard to use in sufficiently multiple scenarios, I just couldn't do it.
But they sure looked cool.
Oh huh uh, just the first six encounter areas (up to acid bath), and then I individually got some smaller stuff and encounter 15.
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1045748That's my concern about such elaborate setups. Portability. I'd want to run a dungeon like that one day, just to say I did it, (looks very nice) but for day-to-day gaming, it seem like more effort than I'd want to put in.
I've only ever used DF in our regular games maybe twice, partially because it is a pain, and partially since we only play via Hangouts it's kind of a hassle to move the camera around all the time.
Mostly it's for our kids. They love playing with the minis and tiles. We'll usually setup a dungeon while they're at school to surprise them when they get home.
We've sometimes covered sections with paper if we want to surprise them, but sometimes we just leave the rooms empty so they only see the rough shape before going in.
For storage we just buy these trays from Walmart and stack 'em up, usually filling with with related stuff to make it easier to find. Here's a composite picture of our tray-towers (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iYWI-1c7nPVjJm5a7n-SZVjdYU-57PcW/view?usp=sharing).
First has some minis from board games, huge minis, Dwarven Forge doors and terrain bits, and then at the very bottom are the DF city tiles.
Second is the center and left side of our minis closet. There's DF cavern water tiles at the top, plus some water tiles we did as lava, then it's three drawsers of Reaper minis, D&D pre-painted minis, and the big tubs at the bottom are more Huge stuff. The center stack has Cthulhu Wars minis on the top, then a bunch of D&D pre-painted in the next three stacks (mostly heroes & NPCs to make them easier for the kids to find).
The right size of the closet has Zombicide: Black Plague minis, then Dwarven Forge furniture bits and some stuff from the city sets (like food stands). Then it's a bunch of D&D pre-painted organized roughly by type, and at the veeery bottom are Super Dungeon Explore minis.
Finally, the last pic is entirely Dwarven Forge: first set of tubs has dungeon tiles, bottom is cavern tiles.
We're going to need another large tub or two for the new DF stuff, plus all of the Mythic Battle: Pantheon and Rising Sun minis when we finally get around to painting them (only got both board games for the minis).
Quote from: antiochcow;1046122I've only ever used DF in our regular games maybe twice, partially because it is a pain, and partially since we only play via Hangouts it's kind of a hassle to move the camera around all the time.
Wow, my whole decision making process for DF is cost-per-use (cpu). I just couldn't do it for "once or twice." My cpu for the box of painted mushrooms is down to less than a buck thanks to playing the Abyss campaign (at least until writing the unplaytested/sketched out parts got to be too much trouble for me), and the basic DF dungeon bits are likewise down to fairly low cpu (under $10, anyway). I'll by trying to use those rooms often...right now the cpu for them is around $450 (counting everything I bought, but I haven't received it yet).
My "Yuan-Ti" anathema has a cpu of $2.50. I paid $5 for it (because it was such a key monster in the God-Temple of the Yuan-Ti), and I used it in another place--bottom line, a huge snake made out of snakes just doesn't come up much, but the "cool factor" made it a must-by.
Quote from: Doom;1046446Wow, my whole decision making process for DF is cost-per-use (cpu). I just couldn't do it for "once or twice." My cpu for the box of painted mushrooms is down to less than a buck thanks to playing the Abyss campaign (at least until writing the unplaytested/sketched out parts got to be too much trouble for me), and the basic DF dungeon bits are likewise down to fairly low cpu (under $10, anyway). I'll by trying to use those rooms often...right now the cpu for them is around $450 (counting everything I bought, but I haven't received it yet).
My "Yuan-Ti" anathema has a cpu of $2.50. I paid $5 for it (because it was such a key monster in the God-Temple of the Yuan-Ti), and I used it in another place--bottom line, a huge snake made out of snakes just doesn't come up much, but the "cool factor" made it a must-by.
When we play with the kids we do our games (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/212664/Dungeons--Delvers--Black-Book?src=hottest_filtered). Even made a special sheet for them, plus WP and VP cards that they discard when taking damage. I don't know what you mean by cost per use, but we've played a crapton of games using them. That's actually the reason I got back into them: kids got interested in gaming and wanted bigger dungeons. They also play with them on their own, so they get plenty of use beyond elf games.
I have never cared for using minis in D&D. But those sure are nice pictures.