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Castles & Crusades - aside from the "SIEGE" mechanic, what's so great about it?

Started by HMWHC, August 31, 2015, 03:10:13 PM

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David Johansen

#30
September 02, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
C&C needed to decide whether it was a modernized D&D or an AD&D clone.

I think the Siege Engine needed to be a skill system much like 5e uses.  If you're skilled you get a +3.  Attribute bonus appropriate to task applies as does +1 / 2 levels.
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Spinachcat

#31
September 04, 2015, 07:36:51 PM
C&C positioned itself as AD&D 3e. As for the OSR, there were always going to be those who would reject deviation from whatever pre-3e edition they prefer most.

The Butcher

#32
September 05, 2015, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: David Johansen;852721C&C needed to decide whether it was a modernized D&D or an AD&D clone.

That's the beauty of game design: it doesn't. :) It's a streamlined "modern" design with a few old school sensibilities and AD&D 1e trade dress. A niche product within a niche hobby? Maybe. But I like it well enough.

Quote from: David Johansen;852721I think the Siege Engine needed to be a skill system much like 5e uses.  If you're skilled you get a +3.  Attribute bonus appropriate to task applies as does +1 / 2 levels.

That sounds rather a lot like my old, untested fix.

Quote from: The Butcher;503852
  • Drop Primes.

  • Drop suggested DCs. Use the DC table from D&D3.0e or 3.5e. Seriously.

  • Add level to ALL saves and skill checks (not just class-relevant ones).

  • Add +4 or maybe +5 to class-relevant skill checks.

Which, of course, is a lot like 5e's proficiency bonus mechanic turned out.

smug

#33
September 08, 2015, 01:28:12 PM
Quote from: S'mon;852286Yup. If you like it that high level warriors fail saves vs high level casters, it's a good game. Personally I prefer pre-3e approach.

It's the easiest fix of all, really, just change the CLs. For spells in my own campaign, I tend to do spell level (rather than Caster Level) for CLs, but it'd be pretty easy to tune any way you wanted, pretty much.
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#34
September 08, 2015, 06:22:09 PM
It's no different from any of the other retro-clones.

You see, these games are all a bit like the vagina of a post-op woman. On cursory inspection, it might seem like the real thing, but as you go deeper, you'll find it's not as gripping.
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