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DCCRPG going Woke

Started by Bogmagog, November 10, 2021, 04:25:39 AM

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Rob Necronomicon

I wonder how far these organizer dweebs will go in the future?

I mean, if the twitter bed wetters don't like say, 'all orcs are eeeevil' as one example. Does that mean that the organizer's could stop you having filthy, stupid and savage orcs? Or will you have to start sending in your adventures - so they can be scrutinized by some sensitivity reader gimp. Just to make sure you've enough diversataaay and inclusivitaay.

I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.


ZetaRidley

Lol, shit. I literally just got this book for my birthday. Was thinking of running a westmarches style game-store dungeon.

Ruprecht

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Ruprecht on November 14, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.

Not a bad idea! They could certainly give one a good promotion (as well as the forum here).

dkabq

Quote from: ZetaRidley on November 14, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
Lol, shit. I literally just got this book for my birthday. Was thinking of running a westmarches style game-store dungeon.

I can separate the art from the artist in this regard; I am going to keep running my 3+ year DCC campaign. I don't need a new rulebook revision and I don't need pre-made adventures or other DCC materials. YMMV.

ZetaRidley

Quote from: dkabq on November 14, 2021, 12:32:05 PM
Quote from: ZetaRidley on November 14, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
Lol, shit. I literally just got this book for my birthday. Was thinking of running a westmarches style game-store dungeon.

I can separate the art from the artist in this regard; I am going to keep running my 3+ year DCC campaign. I don't need a new rulebook revision and I don't need pre-made adventures or other DCC materials. YMMV.

I do the same thing, its just that it seems like everything is being astroturfed by this insane ideology. It's just asinine, and I'm tired of it. And I say this as a person that enjoys PF2e.

SHARK

Quote from: ZetaRidley on November 14, 2021, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: dkabq on November 14, 2021, 12:32:05 PM
Quote from: ZetaRidley on November 14, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
Lol, shit. I literally just got this book for my birthday. Was thinking of running a westmarches style game-store dungeon.

I can separate the art from the artist in this regard; I am going to keep running my 3+ year DCC campaign. I don't need a new rulebook revision and I don't need pre-made adventures or other DCC materials. YMMV.

I do the same thing, its just that it seems like everything is being astroturfed by this insane ideology. It's just asinine, and I'm tired of it. And I say this as a person that enjoys PF2e.

Greetings!

Yeah, exactly. I have heard so many good things about the DCC system, and the DCC books. Pundit here of course has been a long-time fan. The quality and fun there with DCC is undeniable.

I would think, if a person has the main book, other DCC supplements, great. Keep playing them using them, whatever. It isn't some kind of purity test, after all. You don't somehow compromise your moral standing because you own some books or enjoy playing a game.

It is, however, sad and even tragic to see Goodman Games embracing the Woke, SJW insanity. Understanding the fact that Goodman Games has more or less recently seemed to drank the SJW Kool-Aid and is now embracing the Woke insanity, simply served to inform the devoted fan and gamer, and the consumer.

Such knowledge may inform your future decisions and choices of continued patronage.

I think that is very appropriate. To be honest, this Woke insanity is so pervasive, whether or not you are a fan and customer of DCC and Goodman Games or not, I think we have all been confronted with this kind of knowledge throughout the industry and the gaming hobby. It happens and has happened to how many companies and publishers? I think everyone of good conscious and whom are thoughtful should be carefully considering all of this.

I now I have. I have been a long-time customer of WOTC. I guess I would be considered a "whale". ;D I have just about every book they have published for 5E D&D. I am also a customer of Goodman Games--I own the giant B2: Keep on the Borderlands book.

All of this is so frustrating. Keep what you have, buy what you absolutely need, but consider your future patronage and consumer choices. I know I have. ;D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

jeff37923

Quote from: 3catcircus on November 14, 2021, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on November 14, 2021, 09:36:44 AM
Quote from: Hakdov on November 13, 2021, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: dkabq on November 13, 2021, 06:07:11 PM
I went there when it was on Mills and Colonial, before they moved to by the Navel Training Center. It's where I purchased pretty much all of my RPG stuff back in the long, long, ago.

I remember getting my copy of Game Design Vol. 1: Theory and Practice by SJG there way back when I was a teenager.  I also used to go to the location by the navy base every time my unit went there for training which was pretty often.  Ahh... the memories of a time when it was fun to go to the game store instead of now when it is all bland and disappointing.  I can't even remember the last time I actually bought something at one.

I remember going there after NTC boot camp and through A school and NNPS. Gaming helped me stay sane during that time.

This.  I was always somewhere between Suggested 15 and Suggested 20 study hours at NNPS, which still left plenty of time to game.  To a guy without a car, Enterprise 1701 was a close enough walk. One I got my car, though, I spent much more time far far away from the barracks, so my gaming went down.

I was at Mandatory 35 and 40 study hours. I still had enough time to go to concerts at Visage on OBT, play 2000 point All Factions Star Fleet Battles games, and some Classic Traveller/d6 Star Wars/Mekton II/Cyberpunk on occassion.
"Meh."

HappyDaze

Quote from: Ruprecht on November 14, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.
The proper thing to do is to invite all the companies--but let them know that the con's code of conduct will be simplified to "don't be an asshole" and the safety stuff other cons insist on will not be used/enforced. Rather than excluding them, this gives them the ability to self-exclude if they won't/can't handle that

GeekyBugle

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 14, 2021, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 14, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.
The proper thing to do is to invite all the companies--but let them know that the con's code of conduct will be simplified to "don't be an asshole" and the safety stuff other cons insist on will not be used/enforced. Rather than excluding them, this gives them the ability to self-exclude if they won't/can't handle that

Surprizingly I do agree.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 14, 2021, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 14, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.
The proper thing to do is to invite all the companies--but let them know that the con's code of conduct will be simplified to "don't be an asshole" and the safety stuff other cons insist on will not be used/enforced. Rather than excluding them, this gives them the ability to self-exclude if they won't/can't handle that

Well, that sounds like a bit of common sense to me.

SHARK

Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 14, 2021, 06:33:34 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 14, 2021, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 14, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.
The proper thing to do is to invite all the companies--but let them know that the con's code of conduct will be simplified to "don't be an asshole" and the safety stuff other cons insist on will not be used/enforced. Rather than excluding them, this gives them the ability to self-exclude if they won't/can't handle that

Surprizingly I do agree.

Greetings!

HOLY BANANA! ;D

I have to agree, as well. That would make a good policy approach.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

DocJones

Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 13, 2021, 09:34:08 PM
Quote from: DocJones on November 13, 2021, 05:35:21 PM
An even  more recent example:
"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again." - Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb (1991)

An excelent example of the dehumanizing language used by sick psychos.
Yes, and that's why you should only use human pronouns...like he or she.

Opaopajr

Shh, shh, no more discord, we are almost at satori.  8)

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 14, 2021, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 14, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM
I think Venger has the right idea. Make your own cons, and tell the rest to go chew on a grenade.
Maybe the Inappropriate Characters should sponsor a series of Cons. Use the Greenlist for other publishers they might consider inviting.
The proper thing to do is to invite all the companies--but let them know that the con's code of conduct will be simplified to "don't be an asshole" and the safety stuff other cons insist on will not be used/enforced. Rather than excluding them, this gives them the ability to self-exclude if they won't/can't handle that

Let this topic fade in agreement on this...  ;D ... so pretty!
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

mudbanks

Quote from: Fantacide on November 11, 2021, 11:31:39 AM
Also this

Quote from: Fantacide on November 11, 2021, 11:27:19 AM
Honestly I stepped away from goodman after reading their con guidelines last year. I think they make their intentions pretty clear.  They should have been moved to the red list from the beginning.

Link to Dungeon Con guidelines

https://goodman-games.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DCO-Policies.pdf

Dungeon Con Online 2021 Code of Conduct - Goodman Games

Edit* whoops wrong link!

Yeah these were some major red flags among other things. The news that Goodman will be injecting 'gender neutral' pronouns into their upcoming books didn't really surprise me. It was a matter of time.