So I volunteered to run 3 sessions for Red Box Vancouver this month, and as a change of pace from my regular DM style attempted to make a "normal" dungeon for the adventures.
First I whipped up some maps in my awesome graph paper Moleskine notebook during some lulls in a Mutant Future Game (during which Kronh the Slayer got to get down with a four-boobed mutant queen!), and roughly blocked out some areas with the awesome Tekumel underworld chart PDF (I've got to get my hands on a copy of the Pettigrew Selections ASAP!). Came up with a couple wacky things with the results, but they were well within the precedents of early TSR OD&D/AD&D output.
Next I worked on the monster lists for stocking the dungeon; somewhat unsurprisingly my attempts at normalcy went pretty much went out the window at this point and things took a pre-Wessex Rientsian turn... (I was planning on using the spiffy S&W Tome of Horrors Complete for this, but between the monsters I wanted to use and my preference for the Fiend Folio version of some monsters nope; maybe if they included Hoard Class and Morale Scores... ;) As an aside every post Fiend Folio version of the awesome Crabmen ignores two awesome things about the Fiend Folio version: A) They're nuts about silver & B) They carry off women.)
Regardless I soldiered on in my attempt to make a normal B/X D&D dungeon and stocked it using a combination of the B/X D&D dungeon stocking tables; the Appendices of the AD&D DMG; and the Awesome Tricks. Empty Rooms, & Basic Trap Design PDF by Courtney C. Campbell of the Hack & Slash blog. (I'm planning on giving the regions unexplored after tonight another go-over with the also-Awesome Old School Encounter Reference by Kellri; the Judges Guild Ready Refs' Sheets; and sundry dungeon tables by Zak S.)
I did the stocking in a two-hour period before rushing to meet the super-cool Red Box Vancouver crew at a far too crowded and loud coffee shop in a cool neighborhood (as opposed to the tumbleweed infested coffee shop we used to use...). Graham proceeded to generate a halfling hobbit with 18s in Dexterity and Constitution, and a Strength of 13-15(?) right in front of me and I swore that that sheet would end up on my DM Trophy Triumph Death Wall...
The session was pretty awesome; I failed in my quest to gut the Red Box Vancouver stable of badass PCs (for this week...) but I managed to:
A) Totally beat the living shit out of badass dwarf Gamgar with the first dungeon encounter, on the stairs leading down into the dungeon, with a very muppet-like, hunched and piteously whimpering, mother-freaking Stair Stalker! Which also totally freaked the fuck out of the players, who were also incensed and skeptical when they took the same monster's remains to a wizard to have it identified and were told that it was a monster called a Stair Stalker that rarely spontaneously generate on underworld staircases.
B) Kill one of the party's sociopathic thug retainers, Rhino Toronto of the Toronto brothers, between expeditions via random roll, when he cracked his head slipping in bloody cobblestones while bashing a farm boy's head into an alleyway curb.
C) Nailed Gamgar with a pit trap, and was a hair away from tossing him down another one a mere minute later before another player thought to check the floors.
D) Kill Merrigold Serpenthelm's two batshit-vicious rottweiler sized "war dog" pitbulls (that were always pissing everywhere and eating dungeon-dressing bones) via shambling "Blind Dead" ghouls that also spent several rounds attempting to lap up Columbo the double-18 stat hobbit's blood with their withered jerky tounges but were unable to claw through the paralyzed hobbit's plate mail. Fortunately the stupid blind dead all shambled through the magic circle hologram gate to Carcosa that the party was cowering behind.
E) Got Dino Toronto of the Toronto brothers cut in half by a dark Jedi's lighsaber when the party broke into Darth Vader's tomb.
F) Got the DM-infuriating statistically gifted hobbit Columbo's eye taken out by the same dark Jedi's lightsabre. It was awesome when Merrigold Serpenthelm tried to invisibly sneak up on the dark Jedi who was force choking a hobbit and knocking arrows out of the air, and of course the Sith dude just used the force to know where he was.
Other hijinks included:
- An inexplicably Italian accented cowardly hobbit, who had a key to the service entrance to an abandoned wizard's manor handed down to him by his great-great-great grandfather who was a cook for the aforementioned wizard.
- Dino Toronto being apprenticed to Merrigold Serpenthelm by an elderly half-deaf, senile, drunken guardsman in a powdered wig as court-appointed punishment for inflicting random ultraviolence upon farm boys instead of him being tortured by virtue of the party intervening and feeding booze and gold to the "judge".
- Merrigold being able to identify by smell a pool of dog urine in the dungeon by virtue of his batshit massive pit bulls pissing everywhere for the past week.
- The party looting Darth Vader's suit of plate mail from his sarcophagus.
- The party killing a four armed white ape and than finding magic hologram gates to Barsoon and Carcosa.
- Retainers consistantly cowering from monsters and danger.
I can't wait for next Wednesday's return to The Manor of Kalapron!
Were you using the actual Red Box?
Just wondering.
Sounds like fun. If ransacking Darth Vader's Tomb is keeping it 'normal' for you I want to play in your regular games!
Was the Stair Stalker the one from the old White Dwarf Fiend Factory by chance?
@ Silverlion: RBV uses Basic/Expert D&D - slash - Labyrinth Lord with some houserules and bits from LOTFPWFRPG. But when I DM I'll pretty much use anything from any (oldschool) edition/game as long as I can make it oldschool D&D compatible.
@ Nezarch: I'm a big fan of "The Bleak Beyond Bestiary" from Sham's grog-n-blog which features a monster that's pretty much an evil Jedi with the serial numbers filed off; while randomizing the dungeon contents I ended up with one of them in a "Great Tomb," so of course it had to be Darth Vader's tomb! (I almost always go with the first stupid-awesome idea that comes to mind while DMing). Now the party has Lord Vader's plate mail!
My games are pretty wacky, even when I try to play it straight/non-gonzo things can get pretty ridiculous in a Cohen Brothers/Jack Vance-ian fashion.
It was indeed the White Dwarf Stair Stalker, which is actually a pretty badass muppet/monster; I'm trying to use a bunch of Fiend Factory monsters that were too stupid/awesome for the Fiend Folio for this dungeon ;)
Interesting, but care to explain what precisely is "Red Box Vancouver"?
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http://redvan.wikidot.com/ (http://redvan.wikidot.com/)
Basic/Expert D&D group in Vancouver/BC, tries to run open games in public venues weekly; I believe it's somehow vaguely related to similar operation in New York?
FUCK.
I'm in PoCo right now but I'm leaving for Bella Coola on Monday.
I would have played with you guys. It's just crazy with my move and all. :(
Are you guys regulars? Will you be playing around Christmas?
Quote from: Planet Algol;473486Basic/Expert D&D group in Vancouver/BC, tries to run open games in public venues weekly; I believe it's somehow vaguely related to similar operation in New York?
Yes, the short answer is that James_Nostack started New York Red Box (http://redbox.wikidot.com) to play B/X D&D in the West Marches open-table style. He posted about it at nerdNYC, where resident Vancouverite cr0m was inspired to start his own. I wrote about other cities that developed Red Box groups & what I think this movement means in a piece for the Escapist's Red Box Diaries issue (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_271/8108-Imagine-Your-Perfect-Arcade-Game).
Quote from: Benoist;473504FUCK.
I'm in PoCo right now but I'm leaving for Bella Coola on Monday.
I would have played with you guys. It's just crazy with my move and all. :(
Are you guys regulars? Will you be playing around Christmas?
We try to get a game going every week but real life and all; I'm sure there will be some games around Christmas :)
If you know you're going to be in Vancouver you can always drop a line on the Red Box site or PM me and I'll see what kind of action I can hustle up.
Quote from: Planet Algol;473512We try to get a game going every week but real life and all; I'm sure there will be some games around Christmas :)
If you know you're going to be in Vancouver you can always drop a line on the Red Box site or PM me and I'll see what kind of action I can hustle up.
Roger that man. It'd be cool. :)
Sounds fascinating. The difference in whether I'd find it nostalgic garbage or sheer awesome would probably be the "rules" they use. Is it "Basic only"? like that "E3" bullshit? Or is it "basic/expert"?
What if someone brings in LotFP or Majestic Wilderlands, would that be welcome?
Is the point to be a gamer, or to be nostalgic? Because frankly, the escapist article really isn't doing you any favours if its the former rather than the latter.
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Quote from: Benoist;473504FUCK.
I'm in PoCo right now but I'm leaving for Bella Coola on Monday.
I would have played with you guys. It's just crazy with my move and all. :(
Are you guys regulars? Will you be playing around Christmas?
I'm not big on Canadian geography, but isn't Bella Coola a town of like 1000 people in the middle of nowhere? :D
Of course, it being BC, I'm sure the nowhere is some of the most beautiful country on the face of the earth.
Quote from: RPGPundit;473643Sounds fascinating. The difference in whether I'd find it nostalgic garbage or sheer awesome would probably be the "rules" they use. Is it "Basic only"? like that "E3" bullshit? Or is it "basic/expert"?
What if someone brings in LotFP or Majestic Wilderlands, would that be welcome?
Is the point to be a gamer, or to be nostalgic? Because frankly, the escapist article really isn't doing you any favours if its the former rather than the latter.
RPGPundit
We use Basic & Expert, not E3, and we use some rules from LOTFP such as specialists and whatever else the DM finds useful.
Nostalgia? Nope, the point is to
Play Some Fucking D&D. And it's fun as hell. We've managed to bring new blood into the game with RBV, and have on ongoing, living, multiple DM campaign that's been running for over two years with 70+ sessions (note that I'm a relative newcomer to RBV and have only played in and run a handful of sessions compared to the workhorses of RBV, I'm definately not a spokesperson for it, I'm just enthusiastic about it).
As an example of the new blood that RBV is bringing in, Planet Algol makes a great spokesperson, and if you guys get Benoist as well I will weep with jealousy.
RPGPundit, in the NY Red Box we use a pretty wide-ranging set of homebrewed house rules (some shared between the two main campaigns, some unique to each) as well as whatever good ideas we borrow from the wider world of people talking about classic D&D. I thought the folks from Red Box Vancouver I interviewed for the Escapist piece were pretty articulate about the virtues of the original Basic/Expert approach for its own sake - as a sterling example of game design, and as a hella fun system that's ideal for open-table scheduling - rather than an exercise in nostalgia. If that didn't come through, it's likely my fault (I was happy with the changes the Escapist's editors made for length & clarity).
If I had any idea that Benoist had been living in the suburbs I would have crashed the PM function hassling him to throw some dice with me.
Quote from: CRKrueger;473645I'm not big on Canadian geography, but isn't Bella Coola a town of like 1000 people in the middle of nowhere? :D
Of course, it being BC, I'm sure the nowhere is some of the most beautiful country on the face of the earth.
Pretty much spot on, actually. :)
Quote from: Planet Algol;473661If I had any idea that Benoist had been living in the suburbs I would have crashed the PM function hassling him to throw some dice with me.
I was just there for a month, in fact. I lived previously on an island from the Central Coast, not far at all from Bella Coola, actually. My in-laws live in PoCo, so I'm back in that area for the Holidays and in summer. Hence the question about Xmas. ;)
Quote from: Planet Algol;473649We use Basic & Expert, not E3, and we use some rules from LOTFP such as specialists and whatever else the DM finds useful.
Nostalgia? Nope, the point is to Play Some Fucking D&D. And it's fun as hell. We've managed to bring new blood into the game with RBV, and have on ongoing, living, multiple DM campaign that's been running for over two years with 70+ sessions (note that I'm a relative newcomer to RBV and have only played in and run a handful of sessions compared to the workhorses of RBV, I'm definately not a spokesperson for it, I'm just enthusiastic about it).
Sounds good to me.
Play Some Fucking D&D is a hell of a catchphrase for the ads. :D
Quote from: Tavis;473660As an example of the new blood that RBV is bringing in, Planet Algol makes a great spokesperson, and if you guys get Benoist as well I will weep with jealousy.
Thanks dude. That makes me blush. :o
Quote from: Planet Algol;473649We use Basic & Expert, not E3, and we use some rules from LOTFP such as specialists and whatever else the DM finds useful.
Nostalgia? Nope, the point is to Play Some Fucking D&D. And it's fun as hell. We've managed to bring new blood into the game with RBV, and have on ongoing, living, multiple DM campaign that's been running for over two years with 70+ sessions (note that I'm a relative newcomer to RBV and have only played in and run a handful of sessions compared to the workhorses of RBV, I'm definately not a spokesperson for it, I'm just enthusiastic about it).
Fantastic!! If I'm ever back in Vancouver I'll be in touch.
RPGPundit
Quote from: RPGPundit;473750Fantastic!! If I'm ever back in Vancouver I'll be in touch.
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It'd be sweet to find ourselves playing at the same table. :)
Quote from: Planet Algol;473208awesome graph paper Moleskine notebook
Love those things, I have an extensive collection myself. Pity I'm on the wrong continent, it would be great to drop in on your basic/expert game, which I cut my teeth on.
Quote from: RPGPundit;473750Fantastic!! If I'm ever back in Vancouver I'll be in touch.
RPGPundit
Right on!
I'd encourage anyone who'll be in Vancouver to drop RBV or I a line; I'm sure a session could be arranged.
Quote from: The Traveller;473799Love those things, I have an extensive collection myself. Pity I'm on the wrong continent, it would be great to drop in on your basic/expert game, which I cut my teeth on.
Never say never :)