Pod people?

Hipsters?

Quote from: jan paparazzi;836485Now I am curious about what bothers you about it.

Mainly they try to have their cake and eat it too.  In other words they are going for a sandbox, but instead of giving you tools to create your own things they give you the default.  So you got this middle ground of crap that feels sterile instead of going all the way to sandbox mode and have you create your own stuff.

It is like having a garden and instead of giving you the tools to grow your own plants they already did the growing for you.  Just with boring ass plants that really give you nothing in return and not that attractive looking.

This was before they started to shove sjw bullshit to the point that it is glaringly obvious.  I mean when nWoD started out it was politically neutral.

Quote from: RPGPundit;837175Hipsters?

Is there really a myth or folklore that defines Hipsters as supernatural creatures?

My personal variation of the question would otherwise of course be:

Otherkin?
And with that I of course mean the people that is oh-so-very human, yet have the impression that they are something else than human.

Quote from: Catelf;837272Is there really a myth or folklore that defines Hipsters as supernatural creatures?

My personal variation of the question would otherwise of course be:

Otherkin?
And with that I of course mean the people that is oh-so-very human, yet have the impression that they are something else than human.

When Changeling The Dreaming came out I recall the Otherkin community was convinced the game was written about them. In fact I discovered the existence of both at pretty much the same time. Loved the game, was never certain what to think of the people who really believed such things. Though I recall rallying to their defence on more than one occasion on TBP back in the early good days of the forum, where the group received a ton of animosity. IMO, it was no more absurd than the majority of spiritual/religious beliefs that people take seriously and seem to think deserve respect, and more importantly was completely and utterly harmless. Havent heard much about them in recent times.

Quote from: Snowman0147;837265Mainly they try to have their cake and eat it too.  In other words they are going for a sandbox, but instead of giving you tools to create your own things they give you the default.  So you got this middle ground of crap that feels sterile instead of going all the way to sandbox mode and have you create your own stuff.

It is like having a garden and instead of giving you the tools to grow your own plants they already did the growing for you.  Just with boring ass plants that really give you nothing in return and not that attractive looking.

Yep, I think the same. It's flesh neither fish. It's somewhere in the uncanny valley of what is a good rpg. It's not a completely fleshed out setting, but it isn't a toolkit like GURPS either.

Requiem for example would be completely fleshed out if it would have a world history with some major events and some major NPC's who had an impact on the world's development.

And it would have been a toolkit if it didn't have a setting at all, but rules for creating you own clans, covenants and disciplines. The only thing that comes close is Hunter with it's dread powers.

Yeah, I never liked it too. I don't get why they just didn't keep the old wod history, ditched the metaplot, used the new rules and instead of printing those metaplot books; wrote some toolkit supplements the way Unisystem handles it with rules for everything you want to use. Unisystem doesn´t judge you for playing the game the way you want too. Wanna play Resident Evil? Fine. Wanna play Zombieland? Fine, then change this and that. WoD writers want you to play the game a certain way and the rules reflect that.

Quote from: Snowman0147;837265This was before they started to shove sjw bullshit to the point that it is glaringly obvious.  I mean when nWoD started out it was politically neutral.

Yeah politcal correctness is a plague. Here watch some George Carlin for stress relief.

Quote from: Catelf;837272Otherkin?
And with that I of course mean the people that is oh-so-very human, yet have the impression that they are something else than human.

Wouldn't this just be Changeling?

Quote from: RPGPundit;838014Wouldn't this just be Changeling?

Not really, because even though several Otherkin would fit into the Changeling categories, the umbrella term actually also covers a lot of potential beings that doo not always like the umbrella term, because they too think it is all about variants of elves.

Like Vampires, werewolves ...., Angels, Demons, Elementals, Mythological Creatures, Therianthropes, Dragons ... and also the believed non-existant Machine-kin and the utterly improbable Fiction-Kin.

Now one may say that WoD pretty well covers all those, but not really.

See, Otherkin is still very much Human.
They are usually not more vulnerable to Cold Iron or Sunlight than regular humans are, but then again, they also merely have a mere fraction of what their "kin" is supposed to have, unless they get agitated or encounters magic or something such. In Reality they rarely do. But in the fictive world of WoD, who knows?

Confederates?