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Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: GIMME SOME SUGAR on September 28, 2019, 11:51:11 AM
Since I'm still triggered by it all, I will mention that I posted a question on BRP central concerning their latest actual play video on Youtube. Any trace of that thread disappeared and I wasn't given any answer.

This is the video in question. My problem isn't the semi-perverse supplement itself. Look closer at the wall above the Asian looking chick. What do you see?

[video=youtube;Qb4gNZy4UWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb4gNZy4UWU&t=4648s[/youtube]

Yes. Stalin and Lenin on a poster. In a session on the official Chaosium channel. I had kin who died fighting the communists in Finland during WW2.
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: GIMME SOME SUGAR on September 28, 2019, 01:53:38 PM
Not newsworthy, eh? Just imagine if they had Hitler on a poster.
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: Simlasa on September 28, 2019, 02:32:42 PM
That poster is probably not hanging in support of those guys. It's by a famous modern illustrator, and I read it as more ironic than anything... though there's no telling why she might have chosen it. I've got lots of Soviet art around, just because I like its graphic qualities.
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: Spinachcat on September 28, 2019, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1106385I had kin who died fighting the communists in Finland during WW2.

For those of us who lost family to communists, those posters are no joke because we know the return of communism's brutal nightmare is the goal of today's SJWs.

That said, I understand the appreciation of "propaganda as art" because some political propaganda of the past did have truly unique and excellent artwork, though that's not the issue here. Obvious SJW nonsense is obvious.
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: Omega on September 28, 2019, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;1106422That poster is probably not hanging in support of those guys. It's by a famous modern illustrator, and I read it as more ironic than anything... though there's no telling why she might have chosen it. I've got lots of Soviet art around, just because I like its graphic qualities.

Speaking of. I still have the Russian version of the Swedish comic Bamse. For years I thought it WAS a Russian comic. :o

Back on topic, such as it is now.

While I understand that the writers let out most of the tech stuff to save page count. Was there anything from that era specific to the locale that stands out or was odd for its time/location?
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: GIMME SOME SUGAR on September 29, 2019, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Omega;1106433Speaking of. I still have the Russian version of the Swedish comic Bamse. For years I thought it WAS a Russian comic. :o

Back on topic, such as it is now.

While I understand that the writers let out most of the tech stuff to save page count. Was there anything from that era specific to the locale that stands out or was odd for its time/location?

Lol, I read Bamse as a kid too. These days Bamse is very PC though.

If your question concerns Berlin - The Wicked City my personal view is that it's a supplement written specifically for the LGBTQ crowd. I wrote you a longer answer on things the supplement leaves out or could have focused more on, but I had to log in again and the autosaved material was far from all I had written.

In short, they could have illustrated the hyperinflation in better ways (and mentioned Hjalmar Schacht), like in price lists, not just the value of marks vs dollars vs pounds. They also simplified the political landscape, left out alot of parties, major nationalist groups and some extreme communist ones as well. I googled that info in like 30 minutes. I heard some praise somewhere, maybe in an interview, stating that this Berlin supplement is the best one for Call of Cthulhu (there was a German one back in the day), but that would be blowing smoke up Chaosium's ass.

"Tobacco glyster (enema), breathe and bleed.
Keep warm and rub till you succeed.
And spare no pains for what you do;
May one day be repaid to you."

https://gizmodo.com/blowing-smoke-up-your-ass-used-to-be-literal-1578620709 (https://gizmodo.com/blowing-smoke-up-your-ass-used-to-be-literal-1578620709)
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: GIMME SOME SUGAR on September 29, 2019, 12:33:15 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1106427For those of us who lost family to communists, those posters are no joke because we know the return of communism's brutal nightmare is the goal of today's SJWs.

That said, I understand the appreciation of "propaganda as art" because some political propaganda of the past did have truly unique and excellent artwork, though that's not the issue here. Obvious SJW nonsense is obvious.

Yes, propaganda art can be quite stunning, I agree. But I wonder what they were thinking when having that on the wall while recording an official Chaosium actual play session? I think they're sitting in the same room, btw.
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: Spinachcat on September 29, 2019, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1106506But I wonder what they were thinking when having that on the wall while recording an official Chaosium actual play session?

Here's your answer:

"One in five (23%) of Americans age 21-29 consider Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin a 'hero'; 26% for Vladimir Lenin; 23% for Kim Jong Un," the study notes. Furthermore, over one-fifth of millennials surveyed had a positive opinion of Karl Marx.
https://dailycaller.com/2017/11/02/nearly-1-in-5-millennials-consider-joseph-stalin-and-kim-jong-un-heroes/

Millennials believe George W Bush killed more people than Stalin
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/communism-george-w-bush-joseph-stalin-survey-millennials-younger-generation-death-killed-a7366131.html
Title: Chaosium CoC Berlin - The wicked city actual play
Post by: GIMME SOME SUGAR on September 29, 2019, 02:05:36 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1106510Here's your answer:

"One in five (23%) of Americans age 21-29 consider Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin a 'hero'; 26% for Vladimir Lenin; 23% for Kim Jong Un," the study notes. Furthermore, over one-fifth of millennials surveyed had a positive opinion of Karl Marx.
https://dailycaller.com/2017/11/02/nearly-1-in-5-millennials-consider-joseph-stalin-and-kim-jong-un-heroes/

Millennials believe George W Bush killed more people than Stalin
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/communism-george-w-bush-joseph-stalin-survey-millennials-younger-generation-death-killed-a7366131.html

Is all this some giant backlash to the Red Scare of the 1950s, indoctrination at colleges or are young people just this stupid these days? What are they using Youtube and Wikipedia for?