Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:33:04 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 30, 2021, 04:29:51 PMYeah, no, The Price of Freedom sounds like a perfect fit for that.

It would melt your mind to learn that actual socialist find the former Soviet Union to be far too conservative and right-leaning.

Hashtag Not Real Socialism... Yeah that's a fallacy known as the No True Scottsman but thanks for playing.

Now talking about that Dystopian setting...

Are there concentration camps to "re-educate" those found guilty of badwrongthink?

Is the state indoctrinating children into being snitches and betraying their parents?

How would the Puritans guarantee that the wrong type of puritans don't get into power?

I mean you can't expect me to write it all by myself do you? After all it is your dream.

As for the rebels fighting the Imperium, I imagine the Appalachians and some jungles here in México would be great places from where to launch a guerrilla warfare.

I say the Rebel Alliance is busy blowing up roads, bridges and freeing the people in the re-education camps.

A virus is developed that blasts messages of badwrongthink from every phone, smart-tv, laptop, tablet, etc.

A different virus is developed to accelerate the purity spiral among the puritans so they are too busy eating each other to be effective against the Alliance.

Some sort of covert operations are conducted using the sewers to infiltrate the Imperial camps.

Too many people alive, needs everybody to be already dead.

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:43:45 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:42:26 PMWell, I can't speak to anyone's sexual orientation, but other than that there are some people here who are meaningful to me.  Why would I hang out here if that wasn't the case?

I thought everyone was here to argue with text boxes that disagreed them?

Exactly. It's much like playing one-player console games and clicking through the dialogue boxes of NPCs. Sometimes very much like that...

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 30, 2021, 05:12:45 PM

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:43:45 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:42:26 PMWell, I can't speak to anyone's sexual orientation, but other than that there are some people here who are meaningful to me.  Why would I hang out here if that wasn't the case?

I thought everyone was here to argue with text boxes that disagreed them?

Exactly. It's much like playing one-player console games and clicking through the dialogue boxes of NPCs. Sometimes very much like that...

tell me more about one-player console games

Quote from: This Guy on April 30, 2021, 05:13:46 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 30, 2021, 05:12:45 PM

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:43:45 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:42:26 PMWell, I can't speak to anyone's sexual orientation, but other than that there are some people here who are meaningful to me.  Why would I hang out here if that wasn't the case?

I thought everyone was here to argue with text boxes that disagreed them?

Exactly. It's much like playing one-player console games and clicking through the dialogue boxes of NPCs. Sometimes very much like that...

tell me more about one-player console games

That's all for now. <<<exit conversation>>>

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 03:09:07 PM

Quote from: shuddemell on April 30, 2021, 03:01:55 PMThat is certainly a way to squash free thought and innovation. Any system based on what others "think" or "feel" about you is fundamentally morally and ethically corrupt, because it is not based on some tangible system of laws but rather on the current zeitgeist, which is wildly unpredictable, inconsistent and often (as the SJW's like to put it) on the wrong side of history. No thanks.

Are you against free and fair democratic elections? You can say all those things and they can feel true, but the foundation of what makes the free world free is what others "think" or "feel" about politicians. Instead of right of blood or right of might, our leaders must win a popularity contest. It's not perfect, but I'll take it over feudalism.

Nice strawman, but no. I did say those things and they are true. The foundation of what makes the free world free was never intended to be a popularity contest. Initially, it was intended to only include those with the education and knowledge to realize how little they knew, and with that make thougtful and reasonable solutions in the INTEREST of their constituency, and to therefore elect those who would serve the public interest. The mere fact that it has been bastardized to include career politicians (never intended), is being actively subverted by our media and sabotaged by those with no interests above their own desire for handouts does not negate the intent and genius of our founders. What is has done is guarantee that our elections are neither free or fair. Fortunately that framework has served us pretty well in the past, however with the current push to allow not only citizens, but non citizens and those that have surrendered their rights due to criminal activity to vote shows how little even our politicians trust the system they are supposedly representing. They are relying on the ignorance and laziness of the general populace to vote with their hearts and ignore their minds entirely. And yes, I'll take it over feudalism, but it is hardly what our forefathers intended, there are plenty of reasons to make changes to fix these obvious failings, however giving over to identity and popularity politics is definitely a step in the WRONG direction.

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 30, 2021, 04:33:57 PMYes, INDIRECTLY much of my life is already affected by the whims of the moronic mob, to a far higher degree that I would prefer. That doesn't mean that therefore it would be a grrreat idea to let them DIRECTLY dictate what the quality of my life should be.

Is it so indirect?

Social skills and reputation are already essential to success. Some people manage to succeed while being overt assholes because their cliche is strong enough for it. Does not seem like the better system to me.

Social skills are already essential to success, therefore we must ensure that socially awkward people and those with disorders that make them come off as callous or weird (like Aspies and such) have no avenues to success in order to wildly attempt to get at assholes. Cuz ostracizing perceived assholes by any means possible should be the basis for what our society should be about.

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 30, 2021, 04:33:57 PMAnd NO, people's wealth would not be directly tied to "not seemingly like an asshole", it would be directly tied to CONFORMING to whatever moronic norms the mob of mindless sheep has been brainwashed to believe that year.

So not being an asshole? It didn't require believing in masks to know not wearing them was socially unacceptable. In a rep system, not wearing them meant losing wealth. That would result in less psychopaths attacking store clerks that were required to ask them to wear one or leave.

"Won't somebody think of the Mask Mandates?!?"

If you think that making people destitute for failing to conform to authoritarian norms and decrees would result in less people losing their shit as desperation set in from being under constant social pressure and direct financial threat, I have bridge to sell you.

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 30, 2021, 05:16:44 PM
Social skills are already essential to success, therefore we must ensure that socially awkward people and those with disorders that make them come off as callous or weird (like Aspies and such) have no avenues to success in order to wildly attempt to get at assholes. Cuz ostracizing perceived assholes by any means possible should be the basis for what our society should be about.

IIRC, we have at least one poster that has mentioned he has Asperger's Syndrome. And yes, he can come off as quite the asshole.

Hey Rhedyn, I find this entire line of thought by you regarding your utopia abhorrent and stupid.

How far are you, personally, willing to go to keep me from speaking out against it?

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 30, 2021, 05:20:20 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 30, 2021, 05:16:44 PM
Social skills are already essential to success, therefore we must ensure that socially awkward people and those with disorders that make them come off as callous or weird (like Aspies and such) have no avenues to success in order to wildly attempt to get at assholes. Cuz ostracizing perceived assholes by any means possible should be the basis for what our society should be about.

IIRC, we have at least one poster that has mentioned he has Asperger's Syndrome. And yes, he can come off as quite the asshole.

Did you call?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 30, 2021, 05:34:48 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 30, 2021, 05:20:20 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 30, 2021, 05:16:44 PM
Social skills are already essential to success, therefore we must ensure that socially awkward people and those with disorders that make them come off as callous or weird (like Aspies and such) have no avenues to success in order to wildly attempt to get at assholes. Cuz ostracizing perceived assholes by any means possible should be the basis for what our society should be about.

IIRC, we have at least one poster that has mentioned he has Asperger's Syndrome. And yes, he can come off as quite the asshole.

Did you call?

I wasn't going to drop your name, but you're the one I had in mind.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 30, 2021, 05:31:30 PM
Hey Rhedyn, I find this entire line of thought by you regarding your utopia abhorrent and stupid.

How far are you, personally, willing to go to keep me from speaking out against it?

high estimation of import there

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:42:26 PM

Quote from: This Guy on April 30, 2021, 04:33:41 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:32:07 PM

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:17:01 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:12:33 PM

...and you wonder why people are saying 'No' to your idea of social credit?

Jesus Christ, dude, you are fucking scary...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XtAHOepH94

huh

You must have me confused with someone who actually cares whether you are alive or dead.

I don't really give a fuck either way, I was just making an observation...

None of us care about any of us, what's the issue? What, you gonna tell me the other fags on this board are actually meaningful to you?

Well, I can't speak to anyone's sexual orientation, but other than that there are some people here who are meaningful to me.  Why would I hang out here if that wasn't the case?

Greetings!

Exactly, Moonsweeper! There are malignant troglodytes here that cannot possibly imagine people actually making friends here. Real people that you talk on the phone with, meet face to face, hang out, game together. So shocking!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on April 30, 2021, 05:52:54 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:42:26 PM

Quote from: This Guy on April 30, 2021, 04:33:41 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:32:07 PM

Quote from: Rhedyn on April 30, 2021, 04:17:01 PM

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 30, 2021, 04:12:33 PM

...and you wonder why people are saying 'No' to your idea of social credit?

Jesus Christ, dude, you are fucking scary...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XtAHOepH94

huh

You must have me confused with someone who actually cares whether you are alive or dead.

I don't really give a fuck either way, I was just making an observation...

None of us care about any of us, what's the issue? What, you gonna tell me the other fags on this board are actually meaningful to you?

Well, I can't speak to anyone's sexual orientation, but other than that there are some people here who are meaningful to me.  Why would I hang out here if that wasn't the case?

Greetings!

Exactly, Moonsweeper! There are malignant troglodytes here that cannot possibly imagine people actually making friends here. Real people that you talk on the phone with, meet face to face, hang out, game together. So shocking!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

i mean I couldn't imagine making them here because you're all real repellent

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 30, 2021, 05:40:55 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 30, 2021, 05:34:48 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 30, 2021, 05:20:20 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 30, 2021, 05:16:44 PM
Social skills are already essential to success, therefore we must ensure that socially awkward people and those with disorders that make them come off as callous or weird (like Aspies and such) have no avenues to success in order to wildly attempt to get at assholes. Cuz ostracizing perceived assholes by any means possible should be the basis for what our society should be about.

IIRC, we have at least one poster that has mentioned he has Asperger's Syndrome. And yes, he can come off as quite the asshole.

Did you call?

I wasn't going to drop your name, but you're the one I had in mind.

I'm a proud asshole 

Also yes, I suffer from a mild form of Asperger's.

But everybody has the capability of being an asshole, and being one (for whatever reason) shouldn't mean you forfeit your life.

But in Rehdyn's Dystopian setting it does... And of course the puritans in his game think that anyone that thinks different is an asshole and should be terminated. Because assholes are the new nazis or something.

It seriously reads like a perfect setting for a game like The Price of Freedom.