Quote from: fectin;591694If "turn evil" translates to "become engaged in the game world," more power to this guy. I would rather have players who are trying to wreck up the setting than passive ones.

I wish it were so as well. Players engaged in the setting, even if with covert plots (depending if table dynamics even allow that at all), make for a better play experience, IME. In basic terms, caring about the game and its world matters. But I doubt that'd be the case here; and here's how I know why:

Tragically the immediate go-to solution was how to twink out his character sheet so as to gank the highest tier NPC -- and I guess replace him or her. "If I assassinate the king, therefore I'm immediately made king! Then the kingdom is mine and I'll get away with it!" or similar weird magical thinking must be going on there. You'd think offering your services clandestinely to the closest aligned patron would be the smart thing to do. Bide your time, find a friend, and become more powerful and important. Simple, no? But their table paradigm sounds like the painfully familiar "any NPC and setting rules holds down my character from my chaotic evil power fantasies!"

And if you're remotely familiar with such a table you know exactly where this is going to lead.

But really, some of them are happy with this. They really are. They cannot conceive the game being structured outside of a directly competitive hyper-aggro environment. All is war, and if it's not you're not trying. Anything less immediately reads: boring, better off playing competitive CCG, MMO, FPS, etc. For them, this is fun -- even down to their bitterest of complaints (of which sometimes they even get what they want that way, too). This is their happy place. I say 'let them be happy.'