Some of you may have seen that there's a new banner up as of today, for a Blood & Bone RPG. Have any of you played this? What's its deal? From what I read, it uses some kind of "light D20 system" but it's unclear if by that they mean D&D, D20 3.x style, the OSR, or something completely different?
In terms of the setting, one quote (not sure if it was from a review or not) claims it's "D&D meets Game of Thrones". Which I'm quite curious about given that it's Dark Albion that's "D&D meets Game of Thrones"!
So I wonder how similar they are (though B&B appears to be ahistorical).
It's definitely not directly compatible with any version of d20 from 0-5.
There are no professions or classes, just a system of traits.
There are no HPs, there is a wounds system.
It claims compatibility with OGL, Pathfinder and 5e, but that would be fairly loose I would think.
Just looks like yet another generic fantasy setting with skill-based progression called traits. The artwork looks good, though I know that is subjective. I'm not surprised that anyone would invoke Game of Thrones to market their game. Baffled as I am by the success of the books and TV show (again, art being subjective) it is a bona fide mainstream hit that is easy to glom on to.
Sounds interesting.... I saw it on Drivethru and I would have taken a punt on it (sorry, I'm not trying to nag about prices here), but at 17e for a 100-page pdf I decided not to bother. If it turns out to be 'amazing' I might reconsider at some point.
All I see is "Exiled in Eris" every time I'm on here.
Here's my Q&A with the author: https://gmshoe.wordpress.com/2015/05/07/qa-eugene-fasano-blood-bone/
Quote from: Dumarest;973562All I see is "Exiled in Eris" every time I'm on here.
That's a bit odd. Do you mean that literally?
Quote from: RPGPundit;974072That's a bit odd. Do you mean that literally?
Well, yes, although today I saw Dark Albion as the banner ad. Maybe it's just the timing of when I look.
Edit: And then it changed to Arrows of Indra and then Blood and Bone after that. But for a while all I ever saw was Exiled in Eris.
Quote from: Dumarest;974220Well, yes, although today I saw Dark Albion as the banner ad. Maybe it's just the timing of when I look.
Edit: And then it changed to Arrows of Indra and then Blood and Bone after that. But for a while all I ever saw was Exiled in Eris.
Indeed, Exiled was there for ages... But I've seen Dark Albion (which I bought - Sweet!) and now Blood & Bone. Actually, now it's Bloodshadows!
Quote from: Dan Davenport;973666Here's my Q&A with the author: https://gmshoe.wordpress.com/2015/05/07/qa-eugene-fasano-blood-bone/
If I was the designer, I would try to bury this interview. Dude sounds like a tool. Half the time he's just bashing D&D.
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;974832If I was the designer, I would try to bury this interview. Dude sounds like a tool. Half the time he's just bashing D&D.
Well, that's what Ken St. Andre basically does in every interview and some people basically worship him
Quote from: JeremyR;974992Well, that's what Ken St. Andre basically does in every interview and some people basically worship him
the difference is that Ken has established himself, where as this other guy has not.
i am biased but what T&T has is that it came at a time when the hobby was not inundated with all kinds of special snowflake FRPGs claiming to do something oh so special. this guy's just the latest in a long string of designers just like him. he should be kissing d&d's ring and saying 'godfather'.
seriously, fuck this guy.
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;975197i am biased but what T&T has is that it came at a time when the hobby was not inundated with all kinds of special snowflake FRPGs claiming to do something oh so special. this guy's just the latest in a long string of designers just like him. he should be kissing d&d's ring and saying 'godfather'.
seriously, fuck this guy.
I think it's really easy to criticise anything that has come before without the benefit of hindsight. These guys were pioneers! So there was no reference...
Anything that has been created RPG wise post-D&D has been created on the backs of giants. So you should always give credit where credit is due.
He seemed to spend most of the interview going on about how awesome it is that he's using the alternative Proficiency Die rule from the 5e DMG.
Quote from: JeremyR;974992Well, that's what Ken St. Andre basically does in every interview and some people basically worship him
When you're the guy who invented the heartbreaker, you can say all that stuff. Anyone else says it, and they'll be accused of just being a heartbreaker-author.
Hello, I'm the author of Blood and Bone.
I'm glad to see my game being discussed. I love D&D, too. I play it. I think it does a lot of things right. That said, I think it has some foundational flaws too.
I'm grateful for D&D, Gary Gygax, and Ken St. Andre, and all those others who blazed the path before me --
but that doesn't mean I am not critical, nor does it mean there is nothing left to design, or iterate, or learn.
I hope you all have a chance to play Blood and Bone. I think its worth it.
If you'd like to see a thorough review of the game, there's one on RPG Geek (http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?37226-Blood-amp-Bone/page2&).
Quote from: Dan Davenport;973666Here's my Q&A with the author: https://gmshoe.wordpress.com/2015/05/07/qa-eugene-fasano-blood-bone/
Thanks Dan. I feel that interview gave me a good thumbnail sketch of the game and the setting.
Wow the designer really needs to work on marketing pitches. Slating someone else's games whilst promoting your own heavily derived one isn't getting me all keen and hot to check it out.
Free marketing advice, sell your game don't bash the competition. If your games good you don't need to.
17.00e for one hundred pages. You're having a laugh with that mate.
Quote from: HorusArisen;981614Wow the designer really needs to work on marketing pitches. Slating someone else's games whilst promoting your own heavily derived one isn't getting me all keen and hot to check it out.
Free marketing advice, sell your game don't bash the competition. If your games good you don't need to.
Corollary, don't describe your game in terms of others games (in a positive or negative aspect). Just describe your game. There's a good chance the reader doesn't like the games you like or hasn't played them.
Quote from: The Exploited.;98162417.00e for one hundred pages. You're having a laugh with that mate.
Meh. I'd rather spend $20 on a 100 page book I'll use than $1 on a 500 page book I regret.
That said, I'll be giving this fantasy heartbreaker a pass.