Quote from: Sommerjon;538347It happened almost 5 years ago.  He(and his fans) has been using it as a crutch/club/excuse ever since.  I can get behind that it is a tragic thing to have happen, but holy shit people he has been using it as an excuse while dating and getting married again.

How has he been using it as an excuse. That's a pretty serious accusation to be levelling.

Quote from: The_Shadow;538279With what Sutton seems to have gone through I'd honestly cut him slack even to the point of screwing everybody and disappearing into a hole. I mean, what's happening at Redbrick sucks but human beings can only take so much sometimes.

that's a good point, and I never meant to imply that the dude is some sort of lowlife.

But the way it is being handled seems more calculated than these things normally go when a person is burned out.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;538350How has he been using it as an excuse. That's a pretty serious accusation to be levelling.

Whenever someone would ask when something that was being delayed, yet again, the fans and himself or employees would come trumpeting into the thread to wave the 'tragedy banner'.

From the purple place  earlier this year
where Anunnaki er...James Sutton rage quit rpg.net

If you want to know the real story then this is it, hes probably not going to be happy with me telling you but;

James wife killed herself and Dominic in mid-July 2009, after a prior suicide attempt in early June. James was the one who found the bodies when he got home from work.

She killed her and James's son, then herself...James spent the better part of 2010 moving back forth from NZ to the US, before remarrying and working on getting his life back together again.

And he really hasn't been actively involved with day-to-day activity with RedBrick since late 2011 and is still recovering from PTSD.

Quote from: Sommerjon;538362Whenever someone would ask when something that was being delayed, yet again, the fans and himself or employees would come trumpeting into the thread to wave the 'tragedy banner'.

From the purple place  earlier this year
where Anunnaki er...James Sutton rage quit rpg.net

Guy has a tragedy like that and you hold it against him that his hobby/business gets off track? Tragedy banner?

Mate, you're a tosser.

Quote from: The_Shadow;538366Guy has a tragedy like that and you hold it against him that his hobby/business gets off track? Tragedy banner?

Mate, you're a tosser.

Really?  How choked up could he be if he went back out into the singles market, found someone, got engaged, and remarried in, from dramascape guy's timeline of july '09, less than 30 months?  And he is supposed to be suffering from ptsd?  What a crock.

From my local forums:

Gonna chat a bit about my opinions on the state of the industry.  What I see wrong, right, and etc.

I'll start this off with a system that I have always held dear;  Earthdawn.

Earthdawn has horrible managers(Red Brick) that have repeatedly wasted the potential of the system.
ED came out in 1993 made originally by FASA, by 1999 FASA closed production on it giving Living Room Games the opportunity to continue to make products, then also gave the license to Red Brick in 2003.  By 2005 Living Room Games finally gave up the ghost, while Red Brick still has the license to this day.

Here's the rub, from 1993-1999 FASA produced 23 products(non module), since 1999 with 2 separate companies having the opportunity to produce products you know how much original non-adventure modules has been produced?  
3
But it gets better, Red Brick has put up their 'state of the brick' and we are getting another rererelease of the base game.  Red Brick has 2 versions of the game their Earthdawn Classic(errated1ed) and their 3rd edition.  However Red Brick is no longer going to be partnering with Mongoose to produce their books they have decided to, well it's easier to quote what they say.
"FLAMING COBRA
Let's make things official: RedBrick has ended its relationship with Mongoose Publishing. ....
FORMAT CHANGES
Effective from our next product release, all of our books will be available in hardcover and softcover formats from OneBookShelf and our own RedBrick Shop You won't find them in retail stores or on Amazon, though we will be ramping up limited retail distribution some time in late 2013. This is a step sideways to the way we did things from 2006-2008 with Lulu, but is more an acknowledgement of the advances made by OneBookShelf in getting reasonably-priced print products to market. We will be offering print+PDF bundles from both OBS and our RedBrick Shop. More radically, perhaps, all of our book titles will be in the smaller 6.14x9.21" format, with PDFs optimized to work better on e-readers. We will be hyperlinking and bookmarking products as much as possible (similarly to how we did this in the Earthdawn Classic days). And we are working on getting titles into other formats (Kindle for novels, but also the latest iBook and K8 formats for rulebooks), but that's a work-in-progress. With this in mind:  EARTHDAWN THIRD EDITION
As has been said on our forums, Earthdawn Third Edition is alive and well. However, with the move from Flaming Cobra back to RedBrick, there will be some changes. Firstly (contractually), nothing will be appearing from RedBrick for Earthdawn Third Edition until Q3 2012. As noted above, there will be a format change. Moving forwards, all of our books will be released in 6.14x9.21" formats (hardcover and softcover). If you want your ED3 books in 8.5x11" format, please take advantage of the Mongoose Earthdawn sale to stock up! Once they are gone, they are gone.
EARTHDAWN SAVAGE WORLDS AND PATHFINDER
Hank Woon (Lost Dynasty, Cathay, Dark Shadows, and Immortal Twilight) is the Line Developer for the Earthdawn Savage Worlds and Pathfinder game lines. These are being developed and released independently of Earthdawn Third Edition and are intended for players of the Savage Worlds and Pathfinder game systems who have not had the pleasure of gaming in the world of Earthdawn. Both editions are based on Earthdawn First Edition.

Hank's team is also working on producing Adventure modules to support the Savage Worlds and Pathfinder editions. Access to the core Savage Worlds and Pathfinder rulebooks is a prerequisite, but there's a lot of products coming out for these lines."

WTF are they thinking?
But it gets better.  Both Living Room Games(defunct) and Red Brick had/have multiple game lines they produce.  Red Brick currently has the rights to Earthdawn, Fading Suns, Blue Planet, Demonworld(miniature game[15mm])

To add more.
After the release of the EDpf edition, some random guy buys it and rips it apart on the paizo forums, so what does RedBrick do?  It hires that some random guy to be part of the line development team.

Quote from: Sommerjon;538369Really?  How choked up could he be if he went back out into the singles market, found someone, got engaged, and remarried in, from dramascape guy's timeline of july '09, less than 30 months?  And he is supposed to be suffering from ptsd?  What a crock.

The kindest thing I can say to you is that you have not the first clue what ptsd is. I didn't ask you to spill his private matters over the internet - if indeed they have any bearing on the Angus Affair, which you cannot substantiate.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;538386The kindest thing I can say to you is that you have not the first clue what ptsd is.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It used to be called Shell Shock.

Hey all, this is Andrew Greenberg over at Holistic Design. I have been getting a lot of questions from folks over the recent changes at Redbrick. I'm really sorry to see this all happening. I consider everyone involved in this matter friends of ours, and we have enjoyed working with all of them.

Bill Bridges and I were not consulted over this, nor did we need to be. Redbrick's contractual obligation is to create quality FS releases, not to do it with any particular people. We anticipate that Redbrick will do a good job with the FS line, and we look forward to reviewing the work in which their dev team is now engaged.

Sorry for the PR speak, but we can't tell Redbrick with whom it should work. It's their choice, and as long as they send us good new products, it's in the contract that we approve them (approval not to be unreasonably denied, and all that). Right now we are looking forward to a new draft of FS3 to review and comment upon. Here is Redbrick's post on the matter: http://redbrickllc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=499

Quote from: jadrax;538388Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It used to be called Shell Shock.

I know what it is; our friend, it seems, does not.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;538386The kindest thing I can say to you is that you have not the first clue what ptsd is. I didn't ask you to spill his private matters over the internet - if indeed they have any bearing on the Angus Affair, which you cannot substantiate.

I spent 14 years in the military in a combat MOS from 1990-2004 that was Desert Storm, Bosnia and Iraq,  so yeah I have a smidgen of knowledge of what it is, fucktard.
You'll also notice I wasn't the one who said he was suffering from it.

My contention has always been he has remarried, yet people still want to use it as an excuse for lack of development.

Quote from: Sommerjon;538399I spent 14 years in the military in a combat MOS from 1990-2004 that was Desert Storm, Bosnia and Iraq,  so yeah I have a smidgen of knowledge of what it is, fucktard.
You'll also notice I wasn't the one who said he was suffering from it.

My contention has always been he has remarried, yet people still want to use it as an excuse for lack of development.

fucktard certainly is a popular word tonight. Perhaps it's a full moon or something.

I didn't provoke that kind of response, so wind your neck in. Being a soldier doesn't make you an expert in ptsd.

Some people may well remarry after that kind of trauma, do you seriously think that automatically means their emotional anguish is cured? Plenty of people remarry and still have feelings for their lost wife.

And you acted as if you believed he was suffering from ptsd; if you don't believe that to be the case you should have worded your post differently.

I couldn't give a fuck what army you served in. Guns and medals don't impress me one bit.

New plot twist:

One of the RPG.net moderators is now seems to be reporting that Dawn Sutton (current wife of James Sutton) is also no longer affiliated with RedBrick.

Quote from: jadrax;538415New plot twist:

One of the RPG.net moderators is now seems to be reporting that Dawn Sutton (current wife of James Sutton) is also no longer affiliated with RedBrick.

Holy shit, Dan was right, a wife diddling.  Sorry.

Seriously though, it looks like this Sutton fellow has been through hell and back and maybe he's not handling FS the way we want him to be, or even the way he would handle things under other circumstances, but I'm going to reserve judgement until I see whether or not the new FS3 is just FS2 repolished.

None of that really explains or excuses the prison class ass-raping he gave Angus though.