So the guy who was in charge of the new edition of Fading Suns has been very suddenly and unexpectedly (according to him) fired from the project, and he's pissed about it.

Meanwhile, the publishers are claiming everything will still be proceeding on schedule.

What do we think about all this?

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Ah la vache... I feel for the guy. I really do. That totally blows. Betrayal indeed.

An Ohio game company?

Neato.

Oh, and that stinks for the dude and all that. But there has to be a legitimate reason that a business would allow a project to get to that stage and then torpedo it.

Maybe the writer banged the boss' mom, or something. Or maybe he didn't bang the boss' mom.

Quote from: everloss;537167An Ohio game company?

Neato.

Oh, and that stinks for the dude and all that. But there has to be a legitimate reason that a business would allow a project to get to that stage and then torpedo it.

Maybe the writer banged the boss' mom, or something. Or maybe he didn't bang the boss' mom.

Apparently they don't want to get into it due to not causing the guy who's services were no longer required undue embarrassment.  Corporate cockspeak for: he did something terrible, but we can't say doncha know *wink*.

Seeing as the whole damn thing was done, and from what I can gather on the boards, the response to the peeks and releases were mostly positive, I can't imagine what the hell happened.  It's not like RedBrick is even really a company, it's one fucking guy and no employees.  Getting something ready for Gencon is laughable since they told him RedBrick isn't using anything he wrote.

Quote from: CRKrueger;537169Getting something ready for Gencon is laughable since they told him RedBrick isn't using anything he wrote.

Apparently its now all back on schedule because they have just hired some fans over the internet to write the book...

It seems a really weird situation anyway. From what I have been told (so take this with as large a pinch of salt as you wish), RedBrick does not want to publish a Fading Suns game using the original rules, but wants to publish a Savage Worlds and d20 version. (Fuck knows why, I thought the last d20 Fading Suns version tanked?)

However, they are contractually obliged to make the original rules version BEFORE they make any other version. So they hired two Fading Suns fanatics to write a version on the cheap. One of which, Angus (possibly aided by the other, I don't know), seems to have not only wrote the third edition, but also have run the PR campaign and win the majority of the fans over to wanting a Third Edition, even though a lot of them seem happy with 1st/2nd.

So they sacked him...

I'm sorry he got fired, but that happens all the time in any industry you care to name.  What this does do for me at least, is lose any interest I had in 3e FS. I was excited in the direction he was going. I'll just stick with the original in this case.

I sense bullcrap is afoot. Seriously. There's more to this story than we know.

Quote from: Benoist;537213I sense bullcrap is afoot. Seriously. There's more to this story than we know.

Yeah it's weird, first Monte just quits and then this. Something doesn't smell right in Denmark in either situation if you ask me.

Quote from: Benoist;537213I sense bullcrap is afoot. Seriously. There's more to this story than we know.

Indeed. According to the aggrieved person's blog he'd written (though not alone, his co author didn't get fired) the players guide and the GM book. Then got fired. To warrant that something either egregiously corrupt has happened or this guy wrote something so unbelievably offensive or went on to try and steal the bosses bank balance or something.

*sigh* Well, scratch one off the wish list. I expect either ridiculous delays or shoddy production or both. Time to start scrounging the used book stores to complete my FS 1e collection.

Quote from: CRKrueger;537169Getting something ready for Gencon is laughable since they told him RedBrick isn't using anything he wrote.

This.

I don't know who is right and who is wrong in all this, Redbrick or Angus, and frankly it's none of my business. What is going to happen with Fading Suns 3rd, is my business, and I smell a fuck-up.

Quote from: Marleycat;537212I'm sorry he got fired, but that happens all the time in any industry you care to name.

The slight difference to most industries is that freelance writers only get paid based upon their published word-count. So the guy is not getting paid a penny for four years of work.

Quote from: jadrax;537287The slight difference to most industries is that freelance writers only get paid based upon their published word-count. So the guy is not getting paid a penny for four years of work.

Bring in the lawyers!

Strangly I am a huge Fading Suns fan, and I couldn't care less.

I have plenty of FS books, and during the original run of the game the chances I would want or need the newest product rapidly declined as the list of published books grew.

In other words, I really do want for nothing in the FS department. Except players that is. Unless Redbrick is gonna send me some good FS players, I don't really care.


Of course, now I sorta want to plan an FS campaign instead of a Traveller campaign.  Maybe I'll just sorta mix the two up a bit?

Quote from: Spike;537290Of course, now I sorta want to plan an FS campaign instead of a Traveller campaign.  Maybe I'll just sorta mix the two up a bit?

I see no reason Traveller can't handle the Fading Suns setting as well as, or even better than the original system.

Speaking of which, don't you have a Traveller game to run?