Which game do you like most for running a campaign set in the Wild West?
I've not played Chaosium's new game but have played the similarly named game that is built on Dungeon Crawl classic and that was a lot of fun (it's in Beta). I played original Deadlands many years ago and Great Rail Wars but nothing in the last 15 years or so.
Boot Hill 1st and 2nd: By TSR. Though primarily presented as wargames by 2nd ed you could see the shift. Still some of the best western combat rules for ease of play.
Weird Weird West: A supplement for TSRs Marvel Superheroes for playing in a western setting. Fairly good set too and gives stats for alot of classic western comics Marvel used to put out.
Far West (Juego de Rol): By a game company in Madrid. Not bad rules really. But never translated to english it seems?
Legends of the Untamed West: A TFT inspired western from Dark city Games. Only one adventure out for it so far. Base rules are free.
Western Hero: Using the Hero system.
Gunslinger: from Avalon Hill. Its a board game. But its western combat rules are fairly solid.
Boot Hill for me all the way, with the mapboards taken from AH's Gunslinger. I have a few home-brew tweaks to the rules but overall it's the one I like the best because it's easy to play and easy to adapt to new situations. I also have the "Sixguns and Sorcery" rules from the old Dragon magazine when I get the urge for Weird West.
Over the years I've picked up several Western style RPGs and miniatures rules sets, and none have the feel that Boot Hill has for me. Probably a nostalgia thing...
Aces & Eights is the great Western RPG ever produced from both a rules and production values on the actual book. There is so much to actually do in the game and it really captures the feel of the Western genre. I also didn't hate the alternative history for the setting. I'm not a big fan of "weird" alternative history like Deadlands..
What is Aces & Eights alternative west setting?
Quote from: RPGPundit;1017340Best Western?
Four Seasons!
Doubletree?
Quote from: Omega;1017360Western Hero: Using the Hero system.
I used GURPS 3e for a western campaign once. By the time they had things like the player's compendium (companion? whatever) out, there were all sorts of rules for quickdraw, fanning, single vs. double action, etc.
Quote from: Willie the Duck;1017396I used GURPS 3e for a western campaign once. By the time they had things like the player's compendium (companion? whatever) out, there were all sorts of rules for quickdraw, fanning, single vs. double action, etc.
Those rules were from GURPS Wild West, which is a great source book.
(The 3e Compendium books were compendiums of all the rules from all the scores of other source books up to that point.)
For wild west gun combat there is also GURPS High Tech (for more realistic details of running gun combat and other technology), and Tactical Shooting (for even more tactical gun geekery), or for more fantasy/cinematic gun stuff, there's GURPS Gun Fu...
I don't know 'best' but I'd probably go with Aces High for BRP because it's what I own and am familiar with.
Aces and Eights gets mentioned a lot though. What specific mechanics set it apart?
Quote from: Omega;1017393What is Aces & Eights alternative west setting?
Civil War ends with a draw so you have the CSA, Union, Republic of Texas, etc. It's more "realistic" which makes it easy for me to ignore it and the fluff doesn't impact the rules. Our group ran A&8's for years and it was fantastic. I love that setting.
Quote from: Omega;1017393What is Aces & Eights alternative west setting?
Civil War stalemate, Mormons have a country, Mexico owns half of California, Indians get Oklahoma, and other things like that. Seems rather pointless to me as real history is much more interesting.
The shot clock is really cool but otherwise it's way too heavy on rules for me. I prefer Boot Hill plus judicious rulings.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017410Civil War stalemate, Mormons have a country, Mexico owns half of California, Indians get Oklahoma, and other things like that. Seems rather pointless to me as real history is much more interesting.
The shot clock is really cool but otherwise it's way too heavy on rules for me. I prefer Boot Hill plus judicious rulings.
Do you run the full rules system? It's completely modular. The quick start rules are just a few pages and you can add more as you go along.
Quote from: Ulairi;1017412Do you run the full rules system? It's completely modular. The quick start rules are just a few pages and you can add more as you go along.
Unfortunately I sold my book a couple of years ago. I just remember a lot of details. I'd give it another shot if I still had it. I'm hoping to acquire the new version when/if it comes on the market and when/if I have any money. I'm always looking for my perfect Western RPG.
I feel like I should have a better answer to this, because I know my choice is a dusty old game. But 2E BootHill is just a lot of fun and has a very low activation energy to play. To me, western rpg's are sort of little appetizers you have between longer campaigns of other games, so I prefer things that are well suited to a one-shot or a few sessions.
I have both 2nd and 3rd editions of Boot Hill but these days I go with 2nd and just use material from 3rd for background information.
The GURPS Old West book is pretty good but covers something like 1802 to 1902 so has a lot of material that predates or postdates my preferred period, which is generally just after the Civil War through the 1880s.
Interesting question, since I've thought about running an old west campaign. Looked into several systems, and really couldn't settle on one, so I am tacking on a poker hand addendum to the Black Hack chassis, with decks of cards basically being game currency that can be spent for various actions and perks. The higher the character level, the more cards you have to work with per session. You deal yourself a hand, and can use cards for on-the-spot bonuses and such, and/or create a "meld" from your hand that gives you session bonuses. In short, you can have some perma-+'s to stats (which BH uses for task resolution), and save some cards for specific situations (which, I anticipate, most players will do). Enemies have a deck, as well, which can give them some bonuses that can make them pretty dangerous, so it pays to keep some cards back to force enemy discards. I haven't playtested it, yet, so it could be a mess, for all I know.
As far as what's out there, I liked something called "Shotguns & Saddles," which is likely what I'd use, since I'm unsure of my little poker addendum. Not sure I'll ever run an old west campaign, though, since, in researching all this stuff, it occurred to me I can ape the feel of the setting using our fantasy campaign, since it has black powder firearms in it, as well as (expensive) custom, Gnomish crossbows that can serve as firearms that work like six-shooters and rifles...sort of...
Coyote Trail is my go to, but hell - you all know the gap between my tastes and yours! I love it though.
I've only played a couple of westerns.
I played a sort of Horror Western called "Dogs in the Vineyard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_the_Vineyard)".
It had a very abstract story based type dice rolling mechanism, which I generally don't like, but the GM knew the genre and rules set very well, so I had a lot of fun.
Very heavy on the RP and it was a lot of fun.
Anyway, I had a good experience with that, although I think you need to be really in the mood for that type of RP and you need a flexible GM.
Quote from: Omega;1017360Western Hero: Using the Hero system.
I picked this up for $1, and it's a hidden gem. The Speed Chart (which I'm usually not a fan of) really sings for Wetsern style shootouts. The split between Stun and Body is excellent for fists vs. bullets. And you need not worry about powers, which is where 90% of Hero's complexity comes in. As an added plus, the campaign setting is Deadwood, and was done before the TV show. There's some nice historical (?) bits in there with the Earps and Teddy Rooselvelt. And the NPC roster in the appendix is fun, to see who really was the fastest gun in the West. I can't recall if it was Wild Bill or The Sundance Kid.
But my favorite Western RPG is Sidewinder D20. It takes the D20 Modern chassis and adds roles like the gambler, the lawman, the rancher, the scout, the bounty hunter, etc. all with feats to make them shine.
I played boot hill a little bit in the early 1980s, but my recollection of any specifics is poor. I've tried to track down a copy of any edition in more recent times, but they are ridiculously priced often $100+. It seemed like a decent enough rules system for the genre. I do remember we ran an "all star" game where all the PCs were real and fictional gun slingers using stats from an issue Dragon Magazine. It doesn't seem to me it handled heroic style play very well as we were disgusted when Clint's Man with no name went down with an arrow in the chest from a mook during a throw away random encounter.
Western HERO was a good effort, one of the better supplements from late in the ICE period. They added rules for showdowns which worked fairly well. They incorporated physical quick draw skills with the Presence stat so a character could gain an advantage through bluff, bluster and intimidation as well as actual quickness. They would work well enough for pure Presence attack in a scene like this -
[video=youtube;IFrYus7gesA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFrYus7gesA[/youtube]
as well as for a more traditional quick draw in the street.
I'd use Western Hero for a more substantial campaign, but I'd probably like something a bit less wordy for more of a shoot'em up style game.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017410Civil War stalemate, Mormons have a country, Mexico owns half of California, Indians get Oklahoma, and other things like that. Seems rather pointless to me as real history is much more interesting.
The shot clock is really cool but otherwise it's way too heavy on rules for me. I prefer Boot Hill plus judicious rulings.
I don't get the frequent emphasis on alternate history in more recent Western Genre games either. It is a period full of juicy stuff, you've got the more civilized East, the real and imagined "wild" west, and some pretty interesting events outside the US as well to break things up. Pre-ACW, during the ACW, post-ACW, and the very late period post 1900 with some modern technology semi-autos, machineguns, cars, maybe even the occasional airplane.
Quote from: Toadmaster;1017459... we were disgusted when Clint's Man with no name went down with an arrow in the chest from a mook during a throw away random encounter.
Meanwhile for some of us that is the glory and raison d'être of Boot Hill.
And as noted in a simmilar thread last year.
Id like to adapt Albedo's system to a western. Streamline chargen and remove the SF and modern warfare tech and go fourth.
I want Sine Nomine to do a western.
Quote from: quozl;1017480I want Sine Nomine to do a western.
Well, Stars w/o Number is cool so I'd probably give it a go.
In the back of my mind I think (classic) Traveller could be turned into a Western if I really wanted to try it.
With people wanting to do a Western themed game with various non-Western rulesets I am constantly reminded of Firefly/the TV series/Serenity the movie..
Quote from: RPGPundit;1017340Which game do you like most for running a campaign set in the Wild West?
This question was asked before. My answer is still Cowboys vs Xenomorphs.
Far East
oh wait...
To be honest, I haven't played a strict "western" RPG since the original Boot Hill. And that was so long ago it doesn't count. I have played the shit out of Deadlands and loved it. But I'd love to do a straight up western without magic. I'll have to put that on the list somewhere.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017461Meanwhile for some of us that is the glory and raison d'être of Boot Hill.
Wasn't meant as a condemnation of Boothill, just my reaction when I was like 12. We expected Clint to be 9 feet tall and bullet proof, like a 20th level fighter in D&D. I'm guessing the game doesn't work that way.
Assuming the game is best for fairly realistic settings where combat is very dangerous, probably less suited to cinematic play styles.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1017508This question was asked before. My answer is still Cowboys vs Xenomorphs.
This makes me realize that the wild west is probably the one genre that hasn't been Cthulhu'd yet. Hmmm, Cthulhu and Six guns yeah, I'd probably buy that.
Phoenix Command with the Wild West sourcebook.
Quote from: Toadmaster;1017611Wasn't meant as a condemnation of Boothill, just my reaction when I was like 12. We expected Clint to be 9 feet tall and bullet proof, like a 20th level fighter in D&D. I'm guessing the game doesn't work that way.
Assuming the game is best for fairly realistic settings where combat is very dangerous, probably less suited to cinematic play styles.
Oh, I didn't take it a bad way. It is true that most anyone in Boot Hill can be killed with one good shot depending on where you hit and what you roll for the wound. It also has my favorite rules for fistfights and wrasslin'. Basically if you go for your shootin' irons every time you meet an enemy, you're asking to die unless you just have preternaturally lucky rolls and your enemies has lousy ones. Otherwise you'd best weigh the odds, take advantage of cover and your surroundings, or try to avoid a shootout. Then again, it takes about 2 minutes to roll up Ike Clancy to avenge his fallen cousin Zeke Clancy...
Quote from: Toadmaster;1017612This makes me realize that the wild west is probably the one genre that hasn't been Cthulhu'd yet. Hmmm, Cthulhu and Six guns yeah, I'd probably buy that.
Huh, guess I was wrong, one more thing to buy now.
Down darker trails (https://www.chaosium.com/down-darker-trails-hardcover/)
Cthulhu added to something is more common than elves in D&D these days.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017644Cthulhu added to something is more common than elves in D&D these days.
This is unfortunately true, but
Down Darker Trails has been in the pipeline and eagerly awaited for quite some time already.
Quote from: 3rik;1017680This is unfortunately true, but Down Darker Trails has been in the pipeline and eagerly awaited for quite some time already.
Sure, the Cthulhu fad is by no means new. Or bad, if that's what you like.
Western Systems- Aces & Eights is awesome, but has a lot of heft.
- Coyote Trail is much lighter and still a lot of fun.
- Deadlands Classic is a good system, and you have the advantage of shifting to the Savage Worlds version for a big gigantic shoot out.
- Boot Hill's always worked, and still does.
Non-Western Systems- Shadowrun 2nd/3rd and Cyberpunk 2013/2020 make for good and surprisingly quick western systems when you cut out the Technology/Magic.
- For the narrative peeps, an Xworld hack seems tailor-made for the "small-town on the frontier" type of games.
- If you like Barbarians of Lemuria and related games, it's a really light game that would handle westerns.
- The mention of Down Darker Trails has me thinking about a Weird Tales Mountain Man campaign in the Rockies 1810-1830 using Mythras. :D
For me, Classic Deadlands has the best Western feeling system. We ignore most of the supernatural stuff (depending on the campaign) and I completely ignore the setting, just using it a straight Western.
When you play Classic Deadlands, the table ends up looking like the middle of a poker game with cards and chips everywhere. I think it's complex enought to be flavorful, but quick enough in play to work well...and it feels like a Western the whole time.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017644Cthulhu added to something is more common than elves in D&D these days.
This is true, not always in a way that makes any sense.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017691Sure, the Cthulhu far is by no means new. Or bad, if that's what you like.
I'm glad that this is a Chaosium product for CoC, rather than just some western themed game with mythos elements. I think the old west is an interesting setting for CoC and that is different than just Cthulhu in the old west of that makes any sense.
Also curious to see how this works for a straight western game. CoC tends to have pretty solid historical material with easily removed mythos material worked in. If this follows the usual pattern it may be a good choice for a non-Cthulhu western game as well.
GURPS 4e.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017644Cthulhu added to something is more common than elves in D&D these days.
Seems a good time to mention Owl Hoot Trail (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/121402/Owl-Hoot-Trail) which is a D&D meets Western mash-up I've heard good things about. Some people strip out the fantasy elements and use it for a straight Western game.
Quote from: Voros;1017741Seems a good time to mention Owl Hoot Trail (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/121402/Owl-Hoot-Trail) which is a D&D meets Western mash-up I've heard good things about. Some people strip out the fantasy elements and use it for a straight Western game.
I had heard of that one but haven't ever seen or read it or known anyone who played it. Didn't know it had fantasy elements in it. Thought it was a straight Western. Has anyone played it? It seems like there are a ton of games that people make and others buy but no one seems to have played.
Never bought or played it. These days there are more games published than anyone could play. But I wouldn't take RPGSite as representative of how much a game gets played as many posters are overtly hostile or indifferent to new games.
Quote from: Voros;1017751...many posters are overtly hostile or indifferent to new games.
I'm generally indifferent to most of them. :D
I meant people I have talked to elsewhere in person or online.
Yeah well as we know the vast majority of players play D&D and D&D only. Doesn't leave much room for other games unfortunately no matter how good or bad they are.
Quote from: Voros;1017766Yeah well as we know the vast majority of players play D&D and D&D only. Doesn't leave much room for other games unfortunately no matter how good or bad they are.
Yes...whereas I have small interest in D&D (or most any fantasy games) so I've been visiting here less often.
Quote from: Dumarest;1017748I had heard of that one but haven't ever seen or read it or known anyone who played it. Didn't know it had fantasy elements in it. Thought it was a straight Western. Has anyone played it? It seems like there are a ton of games that people make and others buy but no one seems to have played.
Owl Hoot Trail is a "d20" style game. If I recall correctly it was based off of one of the "3E lite" games out there. It uses 3E's three saving throws and that kind of thing. I remember it being decent from a read-through, but not special enough to actually play it.
Quote from: finarvyn;1017896Owl Hoot Trail is a "d20" style game. If I recall correctly it was based off of one of the "3E lite" games out there. It uses 3E's three saving throws and that kind of thing. I remember it being decent from a read-through, but not special enough to actually play it.
What is 3E? Is that like the Tri-Stat system?
Edit: Never mind, I think you mean 3rd edition of AD&D.
Looked over the Shotguns and Saddles system again. I like it. It's classless, with 12 stats you roll randomly for to generate bonuses (Shooting, Book Learning, Frontier, and so on). Backgrounds grant bonuses to scores. HP's are low: 5d at the highest level, with the HD determined by your Grit score. Nice system. I may have to run it someday.
Here's a recommendation for anyone running a Western RPG based on reality:
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By Lambert Florin, copyright 1970, from Promontory Press, nearly 900 pages about real locations in the Old West and stories about them, plus many photographs. The book covers 13 Western states plus the Yukon and British Columbia. I inherited my copy from my grandfather about 30 years ago...right now I'm looking at the maps of New Mexico and wondering if one of the towns would be a good starting point for a Boot Hill campaign. So much interesting material.
For me it's Aces & Eights. But not the setting.
Quote from: RPGPundit;1018251For me it's Aces & Eights. But not the setting.
Yup. But, luckily the setting can be ignored easily and doesn't impact the rules.
Speaking of which the rules for Aces & Eights Reloaded just hit the backers.
Quote from: Ulairi;1018266Yup. But, luckily the setting can be ignored easily and doesn't impact the rules.
Speaking of which the rules for Aces & Eights Reloaded just hit the backers.
Are there meaningful changes or is it just a new edition since the original is out of print?
Also that is a
terrible name and wasn't the pun already used by Sidewinder or something?
Quote from: Dumarest;1018268Are there meaningful changes or is it just a new edition since the original is out of print?
Also that is a terrible name and wasn't the pun already used by Sidewinder or something?
I've downloaded it and look at like 10 pages and looks almost the same as my 1E copy from the pdf. I think it's just a revision and not a "new" edition. Which is fine in my eyes because the original went out of print so long ago.
Quote from: Ulairi;1018310I've downloaded it and look at like 10 pages and looks almost the same as my 1E copy from the pdf. I think it's just a revision and not a "new" edition. Which is fine in my eyes because the original went out of print so long ago.
Cool, that is something I will keep an eye out for. The first edition I stupidly sold long ago now sells for beaucoups de bucks.
What do folks think of Gutshot as a game for western rpgs? I understand it is a skirmish game, but it sounds to me like it isn't much different from Boothill .
Quote from: Larsdangly;1018609What do folks think of Gutshot as a game for western rpgs? I understand it is a skirmish game, but it sounds to me like it isn't much different from Boothill .
That's a new one on me. Never heard of it. Is this the one? https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/17239/gutshot
If so, does it come with the miniatures?
Quote from: Dumarest;1018611That's a new one on me. Never heard of it. Is this the one? https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/17239/gutshot
If so, does it come with the miniatures?
That's it. I know a dude who swears by it. You have to get your own mini's
Quote from: Larsdangly;1018650That's it. I know a dude who swears by it. You have to get your own mini's
Looks neat, although actually the links to Whitewash City and other printable Western buildings and accoutrements interest me more than the game. I wouldn't mind having some nice Wild West miniatures, though. All I've ever used have been cheap plastic "cowboy and Indian" figures akin to the classic green plastic army men.
Quote from: Dumarest;1018656Looks neat, although actually the links to Whitewash City and other printable Western buildings and accoutrements interest me more than the game. I wouldn't mind having some nice Wild West miniatures, though. All I've ever used have been cheap plastic "cowboy and Indian" figures akin to the classic green plastic army men.
Reaper has a few, there is some steampunk and general weirdness mixed in but most will work for straight historical western games. The second page has more of the straight historical types.
https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Western/sku-down
Quote from: Elfdart;1017615Phoenix Command with the Wild West sourcebook.
Funny you mention that, as I was just flipping through that the other day.
Did anyone back that recent Kickstarter for the Swedish RPG "
Western (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game)".
I'm kicking myself for not backing the Kickstarter. It seems that "Aces & Eights" was somewhat inspired by this RPG if I'm not mistaken. Uses the same shot clock mechanic but the Swedish RPG predates Aces n' Eights.
Quote from: trechriron;1017735GURPS 4e.
I was thinking the same thing (GURPS 4E) with all the extra firearm rules, tactical shooting and such as gunfighting is usually the centrepiece event for Players.
It's not an RPG but had rpg'ish like elements but the "Warhammer Historical: Legends of the Old West (https://www.scribd.com/doc/126856931/Warhammer-Historical-LOTOW-Legends-of-the-Old-West-1-pdf)" game always seemed interesting. Never owned the books myself but I wish I had picked them up as there hard as hell to find now.
Sort of a Mordheim/Necromunda/Wild West type game. Possies controlled by each player shoot it out over some sort of scenario objective. Combine it with "Whitewash City (http://www.erichotz.com/whitewash.html)" print and play frontier town set by Eric Hotz of "Harn" fame and you have a great game.
P.S. he (Eric) has a huge list of Wild West Wargame links (http://www.erichotz.com/white_pdf_game_rules.html#fistful) for anyone interested. And if you scroll down he has a list of "Wild West Role-playing games". Looks like there are a dozen or so there.
I'm asking for a refund of Aces & Eights 2E hopefully they'll refund my $500 pledge.
Why? What happened?
Quote from: Ulairi;1018958I'm asking for a refund of Aces & Eights 2E hopefully they'll refund my $500 pledge.
That is a large pledge.
Quote from: quozl;1018962Why? What happened?
Jolly and his crew don't like people like me and don't want us around so I'd just like my money back. Say what you will about pundit and his nutty views, I think he is welcoming to folks. Jolly & his crew aren't so I am just following their lead.
Quote from: Dumarest;1018965That is a large pledge.
I love westerns and I wanted to have my grandfathers photo in the book. He passed away and Kenzerco never followed up to have me get the photo to them.
Quote from: Ulairi;1018968I love westerns and I wanted to have my grandfathers photo in the book. He passed away and Kenzerco never followed up to have me get the photo to them.
That is a shame. Sorry to hear that. My grandfather also loved Westerns. I have his books here on my shelf and actively use them for Boot Hill games.
Quote from: Ulairi;1018968I love westerns and I wanted to have my grandfathers photo in the book. He passed away and Kenzerco never followed up to have me get the photo to them.
Have you been reading the Kickstarter updates?
Jolly Blackburn Collaborator on December 30As Dave Kenzer noted in the update, we apologize for not giving more frequent updates. We tried to update at least once a month but schedules and holidays got the better of us and we dropped that ball. We will strive to do better in the home stretch. Hope every one has a happy new years.
Jolly Blackburn Collaborator on December 30For those who backed the level to have your character put in the book -- there still seem to be a few stragglers who haven't gotten their information in. So I'm putting the information out once again - If you haven't done so please send a photo and character details to steve@kenzerco.com as soon as possible. If you don't make it into the pdf, your character can still be inserted in the digital files before press time.
You're Kenny Johnson, right? The same day you posted this:
Kenny Johnson on December 8I don’t think we are getting the game this month. I’m supposed to have my photo in the book but I don’t know the rules for it. Kind of disappointing after pledging a lot of money to the project and the communication has been lacking.
Jolly posted this:
Jolly Blackburn Collaborator on December 8Hey folks with the holidays and getting all the periphery A&8 products finished he team here has been stretched and busy working on our various tasks. Apologies if we've been slow to check in here. We're been hammering and sawing and moving lumber behind the curtains and a bit too distracted it appears.
I thought we'd posted this several times but for those asking about characters/photos in the book the 'instructions' are to send send a scan or copy of your character sheet w/ background/photo to service@kenzerco.com. Please put "A&8 Kickstarter character pledge" or something similar in the subject heading. We'll take it from there.
We'll have an official update soon. We're a 3 man team and occasionally we forget to look up from our work stations. Especially since we all work remotely and have a virtual office. ;)
Feel free to poke/nudge and throw a brick as needed.
I emailed them December 9th. Never heard back from them.
Quote from: Gwarh;1018944Did anyone back that recent Kickstarter for the Swedish RPG "Western (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game)".
I'm kicking myself for not backing the Kickstarter. It seems that "Aces & Eights" was somewhat inspired by this RPG if I'm not mistaken. Uses the same shot clock mechanic but the Swedish RPG predates Aces n' Eights.
Yep. I'm in for the full haul at Stagecoach Express level.
Is "Western" going to be in English? I don't read Swedish.
Yes. The KS was for a translation of the game to an English version.
I haven't been following the Kickstarter for A&8s 2e, but from what I heard on the Western RPGs G+ group, apparently it's going to be mostly similar to the existing edition. That could be wrong, though.
Quote from: RPGPundit;1019893I haven't been following the Kickstarter for A&8s 2e, but from what I heard on the Western RPGs G+ group, apparently it's going to be mostly similar to the existing edition. That could be wrong, though.
It's very similar. It's an update with a few slight revisions. It's so similar that I wouldn't even recommend the upgrade tonfolks that own the 1E leather edition
A Swedish Western game seems so odd, although to be fair no stranger than a Texan writing a game about vikings.
Still I can't stop hearing Clint Eastwood's voice dubbed by the Muppets Swedish Chef. :p
Quote from: Toadmaster;1019946A Swedish Western game seems so odd, although to be fair no stranger than a Texan writing a game about vikings.
Still I can't stop hearing Clint Eastwood's voice dubbed by the Muppets Swedish Chef. :p
Swedes make a Western RPG; Americans make plenty of pseudo-European and outright European RPGs.
The Swedish chef has more range...
Quote from: RPGPundit;1017340Which game do you like most for running a campaign set in the Wild West?
I was loathe to post this, but honestly Mongoose Traveller 1E and the Cowboys vs Xenomorphs does a pretty damn good job.
Quote from: jeff37923;1020264I was loathe to post this, but honestly Mongoose Traveller 1E and the Cowboys vs Xenomorphs does a pretty damn good job.
I could see Traveller doing a decent job at a western.