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Best 4e books?

Started by Piestrio, January 06, 2013, 01:34:11 PM

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Tahmoh

#15
January 06, 2013, 05:25:24 PM
Monster Vault

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#16
January 06, 2013, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: Zak S;615292The Slaying Stone is flawed but has an easily decent non-railroady adventure underneath.

Ah, yes, I did like that one.  Provide the PCs with a problem and a location and leave the approach up to them.

Conversely, avoid Keep on the Shadowfell and related adventures, which are railroady as fuck.
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Piestrio

#17
January 06, 2013, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Broken-Serenity;615295Monster Vault

How much of the monster write ups are stat vs. background/ecology/etc... ?

I have MM1 and was sorely disappointed in this regard.
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#18
January 06, 2013, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: Piestrio;615303How much of the monster write ups are stat vs. background/ecology/etc... ?

I have MM1 and was sorely disappointed in this regard.

Monster Vault went out of its way to correct that; most of the write-ups are background-based, with stats serving as examples rather than the meat of a given entry.
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#19
January 06, 2013, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;615267Even though I don't like 4E, the Dark Sun Campaign Setting is a pretty good book and I am happy to have it to supplement the rest of my Dark Sun material.

I agree with this 100%.
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#20
January 06, 2013, 10:10:10 PM
i have heard that neverwinter campaign setting is pretty good and light on mechanics making it a good book to use with multiple editions.

ggroy

#21
January 06, 2013, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: This Guy;615298Conversely, avoid Keep on the Shadowfell and related adventures, which are railroady as fuck.

The "Thunderspire Labyrinth" module is less railroady, and can be used as a mini-sandbox inside a mountain.

Bill

#22
January 07, 2013, 09:51:11 AM
Dark Sun 4E book is great.

I have used it in a 4E and a Pathfinder dark sun game.

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#23
January 08, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: Planet Algol;615281there were too many dang water tiles in the Dark Sun pack.

You know what? Somehow, this sums up the grand total and entirety of 4e D&D better than anything I ever heard before in my life.

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January 08, 2013, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;616041You know what? Somehow, this sums up the grand total and entirety of 4e D&D better than anything I ever heard before in my life.

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Agreed. There's a reason I keep harping about that.
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Libertad

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January 09, 2013, 12:57:40 AM Last Edit: January 09, 2013, 01:02:02 AM by Libertad
It gets worse.  One of the adventures (for low-level PCs) had a big-ass river of clear, clean water in a dungeon, and it's treated as just another piece of the environment.  With its own ecosystem.  No explanation as to how no powerful groups claimed the dungeon, how the PCs can exploit this new-found bounty, or where it's coming from.

Read the reviews.

I ordinarily wouldn't have a problem with this if the adventure gave the location the gravity it was due.  Every major power within 100 miles of that dungeon would be scrambling to claim this place; a boom-town of thirsty and desperate travelers across the desert will be gathering outside.  Bandits, Templars, Preservers, Defilers, the works, will all have a vested interest in this place.

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#26
January 09, 2013, 01:14:45 AM
I have heard good things about 4E Dark Sun. Regarding the rest of the books, the best thing about them is how much they make you re-evaluate anything from the previous editions.
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#27
January 09, 2013, 02:51:11 AM
Quote from: Reckall;616219the best thing about them is how much they make you re-evaluate anything from the previous editions.
I was already re-evaluating and rebuilding everything due to the pre-OSR, Necromancer game board sword & sorcery/weird fantasy -SR, so the shake ups of 4E meant nothing to me.
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#28
January 10, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
Quote from: Libertad;616213It gets worse.  One of the adventures (for low-level PCs) had a big-ass river of clear, clean water in a dungeon, and it's treated as just another piece of the environment.  With its own ecosystem.  No explanation as to how no powerful groups claimed the dungeon, how the PCs can exploit this new-found bounty, or where it's coming from.

Wow, its almost as if they didn't give a shit about setting at all, except as a backdrop for new powers and combat scenarios...

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#29
January 10, 2013, 03:34:30 PM
4E - fixes Athas by eliminating water scarcity?
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Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.
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