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Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on July 07, 2015, 08:41:38 PM
…Ennie voting is open

http://www.ennie-awards.com/vote/2015/

If you care, vote for things you like.

If you don't, do not.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Saplatt on July 07, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Congrats on the nominations!  Votes submitted.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Simlasa on July 07, 2015, 09:49:23 PM
Awards are stupid but the recognition that comes along with them can sometimes turn into good resources.

I voted as well.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Spinachcat on July 08, 2015, 03:50:43 AM
But do you have theRPGsite Product of Distinction Award?

That's the one to strive for!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Battle Mad Ronin on July 08, 2015, 04:07:44 AM
I don't even know 90% of those products :confused: The blogs and podcast categories seem especially narrowly chosen.

Still, gave my votes for 'Red and Pleasant Land' and some D&D products. And 'Mutant'
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: trechriron on July 08, 2015, 02:15:27 PM
I Voted. :-)

Quote from: Spinachcat;840398But do you have theRPGsite Product of Distinction Award?

That's the one to strive for!

As the graphic creator of said award, I may be biased, but it WILL look snazzy on the cover of your product. I guarantee it or your money back.

Of course, Arrows of Indra nor Dark Albion nor Fantastic Heroes and Witchery nor Red and Pleasant land sport this award lending to my CRUSHING disappointment this didn't take off better.  :P
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on July 09, 2015, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;840398But do you have theRPGsite Product of Distinction Award?

That's the one to strive for!

Damn right.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on July 09, 2015, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: trechriron;840499I Voted. :-)



As the graphic creator of said award, I may be biased, but it WILL look snazzy on the cover of your product. I guarantee it or your money back.

Of course, Arrows of Indra nor Dark Albion nor Fantastic Heroes and Witchery nor Red and Pleasant land sport this award lending to my CRUSHING disappointment this didn't take off better.  :P

It would not be apropos for me to award myself this prestigious award.  That's the kind of thing the Indie RPG Awards and the judges at the ENnies do.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: trechriron on July 10, 2015, 02:26:01 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;840866It would not be apropos for me to award myself this prestigious award.  That's the kind of thing the Indie RPG Awards and the judges at the ENnies do.

Fair enough. I believe they DESERVE the award, but I appreciate your integrity.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: DKChannelBoredom on July 10, 2015, 04:30:17 AM
Done.

Voted for A Red & Pleasant Lands because:

a) It's a gorgeous book

and

b) I haven't read/seen any of the other stuff nominated.

But even if I had, I'm having a hard time imagining, that they can really match AR&PL in pure blood red purdy.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on July 13, 2015, 01:14:46 AM
Quote from: trechriron;840891Fair enough. I believe they DESERVE the award, but I appreciate your integrity.

Of course, I'd note that if any of the publishers of my games wanted to present themselves for this prestigious award, I certainly wouldn't object.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: One Horse Town on July 13, 2015, 06:03:38 AM
If nothing else, the epic butt-hurt of some of the usual suspects that it's been nominated at all is amusing to see. Presuming you haven't been photo-shopping the tweets on your blog. ;)
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Spinachcat on July 13, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
The Tweets are hysterical!

If you crazy kids haven't see ZakS's blog DnDwithPornstars recently, he's using the butthurt tweets as advertising for the ENnie voting.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Paraguybrarian on July 13, 2015, 07:17:32 PM
Nice to be able to add Cam Banks to the no-fly list. How did I not find out before now that he's such a creep?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on July 15, 2015, 05:50:20 AM
Ah, the Pseudo-Activists.  Always reliable for generating fame and profit for the exact things they claim to despise.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Necrozius on July 15, 2015, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: Paraguybrarian;841535Nice to be able to add Cam Banks to the no-fly list. How did I not find out before now that he's such a creep?

Cam, like several other game designers who are part of that clique, are genuinely people that I like. But social media has the potential to make even one's closest friends into crazed clowns. Not an excuse, at all, but a fact that I have to remind myself constantly or else I would have very few friends because of shit said on the Internet.

That puts me in an awkward spot, for sure: I mean, I have no Web presence worth anything at all so neither side would give any fucks as to whether I'm gonna hop on board due to rhetoric like "you're either with us or against us".

So as to keep pleasant relationships with as many possible future collaborators as possible, I keep my dumb, stupid mouth shut about these matters. Even this post is attempting to be super neutral. I don't mind being called a coward: in real life, outside of the Internet wars, I'm doing just fine.

All that to say that I think Twitter, Facebook and Google+ are fucking horrible  for settling clique wars. Things will only get worse before they get better.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Spinachcat on July 15, 2015, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Necrozius;841870All that to say that I think Twitter, Facebook and Google+ are fucking horrible  for settling clique wars. Things will only get worse before they get better.

Clique wars don't get settled. Everyone just retreats to their bubble to bitch before the next tempest in a teapot.

I am increasingly finding that the amount of time needed to sift through the noise of social media to find the valuable bits is time far better spent in other pursuits. I had some hopes for G+, but I'm not even finding the ROI on that time to be useful.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Aos on July 15, 2015, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;841971Clique wars don't get settled. Everyone just retreats to their bubble to bitch before the next tempest in a teapot.

I am increasingly finding that the amount of time needed to sift through the noise of social media to find the valuable bits is time far better spent in other pursuits. I had some hopes for G+, but I'm not even finding the ROI on that time to be useful.

I deleted my G+ account ages ago.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Paraguybrarian on July 31, 2015, 10:48:48 PM
"Awards are stupid, but..." ...you won! Congratulations, Zak!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on July 31, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: Paraguybrarian;845646"Awards are stupid, but..." ...you won! Congratulations, Zak!

I heard there was heckling and a big walkout.  True? False? Exaggeration? Wish I could have been there to see it. It sounds like it was priceless.

Anyway, congrats, Zak. You earned it with a very beautiful, exquisitely written little red book.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Bedrockbrendan on July 31, 2015, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;845647I heard there was heckling and a big walkout.  True? False? Exaggeration? Wish I could have been there to see it. It sounds like it was priceless.

Anyway, congrats, Zak. You earned it with a very beautiful, exquisitely written little red book.

where did you hear that?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on July 31, 2015, 11:18:44 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;845649where did you hear that?

Twitter. It was hard to make out what was real vs. what was wishful thinking due to Twitter's terrible signal-to-noise ratio.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: JamesV on July 31, 2015, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;845647Anyway, congrats, Zak. You earned it with a very beautiful, exquisitely written little red book.

I regret that I could only afford the PDF when I bought RPL. Though I haven't used it in a game like I did with Vornheim, it's still a great read, full of crazy ideas.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on July 31, 2015, 11:45:13 PM
Nobody in the hall noticed but Cam Banks and his conservative gamer squad walked out after I won Best Writing.

Then I won three more awards.

Awards are still stupid. Buy a copy, kids, it's a book made of Drama Club tears.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Paraguybrarian on July 31, 2015, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: Zak S;845655Nobody in the hall noticed but Cam Banks and his conservative gamer squad walked out after I won Best Writing.

Then I won three more awards.

Awards are still stupid. Buy a copy, kids, it's a book made of Drama Club tears.

Any other authors of note walk out? I don't want to accidentally buy their products.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 01, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
Quote from: Paraguybrarian;845656Any other authors of note walk out? I don't want to accidentally buy their products.

Not really: Adam Jury? People who supported them on Twitter included Fred Hicks, Daniel Solis and all the usual suspects who've been harassing us for the last year and 24 days.

EDIT:
Grognards.txt is linking this thread trying to figure out who walked out and (as usual) rather than just asking me, they ask each other and so they get random fucked-up information.

So, who was there: Cam Banks. Adam Jury, Lyndsay Peters / GeekyLyndsay, Lastnora, prof_banks (jess banks) and, I think, Logan Bonner.

Also: RPGpundit is an ass. Please do not associate me with his edition-warring, trolling bs.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Paraguybrarian on August 01, 2015, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: Zak S;845657Not really: Adam Dray? People who supported them on Twitter included Fred Hicks, Daniel Solis and all the usual suspects who've been harassing us for the last year and 24 days.

I don't buy Hicks' shit anyway--I wonder if he gets any benefit out of my zero dollar pay what you wants? Opinions, anyone?

I haven't even heard of the others.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Bradford C. Walker on August 01, 2015, 01:22:37 AM
If voting for Red and Pleasant Land made me a Nazi, then where the fuck is my snazzy uniform, P08 Luger and MP40?

(On a related note, I can't wait to see the freak outs when the Hugos are announced.)
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on August 01, 2015, 02:40:55 AM
It was a half-dozen people from what I was told, and then they literally went to a bar to drown their sorrows. Hilarious.

theRPGsite officially congratulates Zak S., not on the pointless ENnies, but on the Making Assholes Cry award, which is so much more meaningful and fulfilling.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Simlasa on August 01, 2015, 04:10:33 AM
Awards are stupid but I'm still glad Zak won these... and that Contessa got some recognition as well.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Chivalric on August 01, 2015, 04:47:34 AM
It's well deserved as the book is excellent.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: The Ent on August 01, 2015, 05:31:41 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;845672theRPGsite officially congratulates Zak S., not on the pointless ENnies, but on the Making Assholes Cry award, which is so much more meaningful and fulfilling.

Hahaha very true! Also 2nded! :D
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: One Horse Town on August 01, 2015, 06:44:14 AM
Congratulations on your stupid awards!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Saladman on August 01, 2015, 07:20:21 AM
Congratulations Zak.  That was well deserved.

Aside:  I have no idea how WotC swept best art (Cover and Interior).  Better sales overall, plus the real vote being split between a couple of strong contenders?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Frundsberg on August 01, 2015, 09:27:40 AM
Congratulations! The book is a gem, art and content wise.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Eric Diaz on August 01, 2015, 09:47:23 AM
Congratulations!

Well deserved indeed. Red and Pleasant Land is an awesome book.

When I first read it I thought "This is how supplements should be done", with a setting, house rules for that setting, monsters, plot hooks, random tables, a new class, great art, etc.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RunningLaser on August 01, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Congrats to the winners!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Frey on August 01, 2015, 05:39:33 PM
Congratulations, A Red & Pleasant Land really was last year's best RPG book.

So what about that remake of Warhammer's Chaos books?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: JamesV on August 01, 2015, 06:23:04 PM
Quote from: Frey;845833So what about that remake of Warhammer's Chaos books?

Hell.Yes.

If Zak decides to work on another book, let it be this.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Spinachcat on August 01, 2015, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: Frey;845833So what about that remake of Warhammer's Chaos books?

Hell yeah!

Even if it was for Zweihander! I am hoping the Zweihander dude actually markets the book offline when its done.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: flyerfan1991 on August 01, 2015, 10:53:36 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;845684Awards are stupid but I'm still glad Zak won these... and that Contessa got some recognition as well.

Contessa won a Gold for Best Blog, finally knocking Gnome Stew off of the top spot.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Bren on August 01, 2015, 11:16:39 PM
Quote from: flyerfan1991;845885Contessa won a Gold for Best Blog, finally knocking Gnome Stew off of the top spot.
I'll have to check it out. Anyone who is a fan have some favorite posts to recommend?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: TristramEvans on August 02, 2015, 01:22:56 AM
Awards for RPGs are indeed stupid.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Snowman0147 on August 02, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
Shit...  I just got the news recently and posted who won in that thread.  Sorry people and again ZakS congrats on a book well made.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: 3rik on August 02, 2015, 06:04:06 AM
Awards may indeed be stupid, but this is glorious!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on August 03, 2015, 01:35:28 AM
Quote from: 3rik;845972Awards may indeed be stupid, but this is glorious!

Yup.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: GameDaddy on August 03, 2015, 10:22:25 PM
Awards are not meaningless. They are recognition for hard work and excellence in design, which is not easy to achieve, ...even with a group providing feedback.

Enough people recognized your games as enjoyable and worthy. They put the right words into the right ears and this year a substantial group of smaller publishers were recognized. I'm glad Zak and James won. The games they make might be just enough to put food on their table for the families... It might be enough to help with other bills, and it should open up some new opportunities for them to earn money if they want to continue with game design.

Congratulations again!

That said, I didn't attend GenCon this year. We had our family vacation and went camping instead. The boy made me bring my SAGA Star Wars game and we started a new Clone Wars campaign, and we got plenty of play time in.

I really regret selling my Star Wars minis back in 2008, Had about $400 in minis. It would cost about a G note to get that back now. Getting better about keeping my collection intact these days.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on August 05, 2015, 01:37:09 AM
That's why I don't sell anything anymore (unless its something I never ever used and totally can't conceive of any possible universe where I might use it in the future).
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 03:09:23 AM
Grognards.txt is linking this thread trying to figure out who walked out and (as usual) rather than just asking me, they ask each other and so they get random fucked-up information some dork made up.

So, who was there: Cam Banks. Adam Jury, Lyndsay Peters / GeekyLyndsay, Lastnora, prof_banks (jess banks) and, I think, Logan Bonner.you can check on Twitter.

I was not present, the award was accepted by Stacy Dellorfano of Contessa (who also won gold), nobody present near the stage noticed the people leaving, but people following Lyndsay on Twitter did.

Also: RPGpundit is an ass. Please do not associate me with his edition-warring, trolling bs. And next time you have a question, just ask me: http://ask.fm/TheActualZakSmith
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: One Horse Town on August 05, 2015, 05:58:50 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846671Also: RPGpundit is an ass. Please do not associate me with his edition-warring, trolling bs. And next time you have a question, just ask me: http://ask.fm/TheActualZakSmith

Says the guy who uses Pundit's forum as a platform at every opportunity. Remind me where your grudge-match, "This is Why We Don't Like You" thread is again?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: One Horse Town;846686Says the guy who uses Pundit's forum as a platform at every opportunity. Remind me where your grudge-match, "This is Why We Don't Like You" thread is again?

Whatever works.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: One Horse Town on August 05, 2015, 06:57:02 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846689Whatever works.

Ah, the no scruples approach, i like it.

However, if i might give a little advice. If you find being lumped in with Pundit so unpleasant, maybe you shouldn't avail yourself of his 'services' quite so much. Apparently, this place is now the OSR Zak and Pundit show in many peoples' eyes.

Shame, 'cos it can be miles better than that.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 07:09:15 AM
Quote from: One Horse Town;846694Ah, the no scruples approach, i like it.

However, if i might give a little advice. If you find being lumped in with Pundit so unpleasant, maybe you shouldn't avail yourself of his 'services' quite so much. .

I'd say, considering current events, nobody has grounds to give Zak S unsolicited PR advice until at least Christmas.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: One Horse Town on August 05, 2015, 07:14:57 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846698I'd say, considering current events, nobody has grounds to give Zak S unsolicited PR advice until at least Christmas.

Which is probably about the time you'll carry on answering my posts for.

It's quite simple really. Don't like being lumped in with Pundit? Then fuck off and start your own forum. Easy!

As for PR advice. If i was serious about that i'd say get a hair cut and a proper job. :p
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 07:26:15 AM
Quote from: One Horse Town;846699Which is probably about the time you'll carry on answering my posts for.

It's quite simple really. Don't like being lumped in with Pundit? Then fuck off and start your own forum. Easy!

Being lumped in with the Pundit is gross but not as gross as having to run your own forum (or kiss moderator ass).

Lesser of 3 grosses.

Anyway, you got anything else to talk about? This is getting dull.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: One Horse Town on August 05, 2015, 07:32:45 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846702Anyway, you got anything else to talk about?

What's your next project? Got one planned?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 02:03:57 PM
Quote from: One Horse Town;846703What's your next project? Got one planned?
Yep:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2015/03/amazons-of-devoured-land.html
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: bryce0lynch on August 05, 2015, 02:30:04 PM
And this is therpgsite:

Two people can call each other out and then move on to a good discussion.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Shipyard Locked on August 05, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: bryce0lynch;846790And this is therpgsite:

Two people can call each other out and then move on to a good discussion.

Amen you book burner. ;)
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Frundsberg on August 05, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846788Yep:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2015/03/amazons-of-devoured-land.html

Excellent. Love the lychewives. It's not a wonder that China Mieville praises your work: both your minds seem to delve into similar places.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: Frundsberg;846807Excellent. Love the lychewives. It's not a wonder that China Mieville praises your work: both your minds seem to delve into similar places.

We just did a book together, written drawn, sold, contracts signed, it should be out in 2016.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Frundsberg on August 05, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846808We just did a book together, written drawn, sold, contracts signed, it should be out in 2016.

Well, these are incredible news.

(A rather poor wording for the enthusiasm I'm feeling right now).
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: jan paparazzi on August 05, 2015, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: One Horse Town;846699Which is probably about the time you'll carry on answering my posts for.

It's quite simple really. Don't like being lumped in with Pundit? Then fuck off and start your own forum. Easy!

As for PR advice. If i was serious about that i'd say get a hair cut and a proper job. :p

You are right. Btw, is it really so bad being lumped in with Pundit? I got the feeling Zak isn't really good with irony, is he?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: The Ent on August 05, 2015, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846808We just did a book together, written drawn, sold, contracts signed, it should be out in 2016.

Okay, that's beyond awesome. Serious congrats. :cool:
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: jan paparazzi;846812You are right. Btw, is it really so bad being lumped in with Pundit? I got the feeling Zak isn't really good with irony, is he?

Irony's fine for in-jokes, but the audience for what we write on the web isn't the insiders joking around, it's all the lurkers who just got to the page and are totally clueless.

So, for their sake, I'll say what most of y'all already know: the guy who owns this site can be a dick, but he's really into free speech, so here we all are.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 06:48:19 PM
Quote from: The Ent;846816Okay, that's beyond awesome. Serious congrats. :cool:

Thank you.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: flyerfan1991 on August 05, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846828Irony's fine for in-jokes, but the audience for what we write on the web isn't the insiders joking around, it's all the lurkers who just got to the page and are totally clueless.

So, for their sake, I'll say what most of y'all already know: the guy who owns this site can be a dick, but he's really into free speech, so here we all are.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: JamesV on August 05, 2015, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846788Yep:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2015/03/amazons-of-devoured-land.html

I too am interested, particularly in a couple things:

"Cultured exotoxins". I see an opportunity for tables ranging from "stone-dead", to "tripping so hard you can actually talk to gods".

"Complex obstetrics".  Baby making is often a touchy subject for gamers, so I'm pretty curious about how this will be fodder for a game.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: JamesV;846834I too am interested, particularly in a couple things:

"Cultured exotoxins". I see an opportunity for tables ranging from "stone-dead", to "tripping so hard you can actually talk to gods".

I think hallucinogens are pretty thoroughly explored OSR territory.

Quote"Complex obstetrics".  Baby making is often a touchy subject for gamers, so I'm pretty curious about how this will be fodder for a game.

F3
The eastern slop of Mount Hellebor is known to the Amazons as the Garden of Emptiness not because of the 200' chasms that rend the rock, but for the unusually efficient and painless strains of abortifacient herbs (kvann and, of course, hellebore) that grow in them. An encounter roll of 21-24 indicates d4+1 Frostbitten Moons come to gather herbs for their decoctions, 25-26 indicates Maggot Sisters here for the same purpose 27-28 indicates Ulvenbrigad 29-30 The Thirteen.


There will be a lot of abortion in this book.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Spinachcat on August 05, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
What did RPGPundit do to ZakS?  

Unleash the gossip monster!

Geek fight at high noon!

Quote from: Zak S;846838There will be a lot of abortion in this book.

Is that the marketing tagline? :)

Excited about the new book! Definitely my favorite stuff from your blog so seeing that developed further is gonna rock.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;846844What did RPGPundit do to ZakS?  

Nothing to me in particular. He's been relatively nice to me. He's just kind of a dick in general.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Chivalric on August 05, 2015, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846808We just did a book together, written drawn, sold, contracts signed, it should be out in 2016.

I actually found out about his work through you.  I'm part way through the bas-lag stuff.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Géza Echs on August 05, 2015, 09:33:21 PM
Congratulations on your awards, Zak.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 05, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: NathanIW;846853I actually found out about his work through you.  I'm part way through the bas-lag stuff.

Check out M John Harrison's Viriconium when you're done
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on August 05, 2015, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846671Also: RPGpundit is an ass. Please do not associate me with his edition-warring, trolling bs. And next time you have a question, just ask me: http://ask.fm/TheActualZakSmith

While you're a completely different sort of ass. I'm not particularly enchanted with being associated with you either.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 06, 2015, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;846877While you're a completely different sort of ass. I'm not particularly enchanted with being associated with you either.

Ok. Glad we got all that out of the way.

Anything else going on in this thread?
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Chivalric on August 06, 2015, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846861Check out M John Harrison's Viriconium when you're done

Local library has the Viriconium Omnibus printing from 2005.  It's on the way to my local branch.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 06, 2015, 01:05:15 AM
Quote from: NathanIW;846887Local library has the Viriconium Omnibus printing from 2005.  It's on the way to my local branch.
Let it never be said I'm totally useless.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Frundsberg on August 07, 2015, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846882Anything else going on in this thread?

I discovered your work through RaPL, and now I badly want to put my hands on Vornheim... but what I've found so far is too much for my pocket. Is there a possibility for a new edition? I'm asking from my utter ignorance of how publishing works.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: The Ent on August 07, 2015, 09:21:42 AM
Quote from: Zak S;846861Check out M John Harrison's Viriconium when you're done

Seconded, that's a fantastic work.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Shipyard Locked on August 07, 2015, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;846877While you're a completely different sort of ass. I'm not particularly enchanted with being associated with you either.

(http://i.imgur.com/lMPWsDx.jpg)
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 07, 2015, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: Frundsberg;847172I discovered your work through RaPL, and now I badly want to put my hands on Vornheim... but what I've found so far is too much for my pocket. Is there a possibility for a new edition? I'm asking from my utter ignorance of how publishing works.

A new edition of Vornheim should be out pretty soon--we spell-checked it, corrected the proofs, they're at the printer etc.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Frundsberg on August 07, 2015, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Zak S;847230A new edition of Vornheim should be out pretty soon--we spell-checked it, corrected the proofs, they're at the printer etc.

This thread is like a neverending piñata.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: jan paparazzi on August 07, 2015, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;846877While you're a completely different sort of ass. I'm not particularly enchanted with being associated with you either.

I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now. :p
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Post by: Jason D on August 09, 2015, 05:22:23 AM
I ordered a copy from my online* shop of choice (Sphärenmeisters Spiele) and was quite pleased when I got it upon my return from a week-long business trip.

While I was opening the package, my girlfriend asked me what it was. She flipped through it and said "You must run this". So there's that.







* Apologies to James Raggi... I should have bought from it direct at Nordcon in Hamburg, but I was short on cash and was at my limit for stuff to lug around on that dismal rainy day.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 09, 2015, 05:46:48 AM
Quote from: Jason D;847645I ordered a copy from my online* shop of choice (Sphärenmeisters Spiele) and was quite pleased when I got it upon my return from a week-long business trip.

While I was opening the package, my girlfriend asked me what it was. She flipped through it and said "You must run this". So there's that.







* Apologies to James Raggi... I should have bought from it direct at Nordcon in Hamburg, but I was short on cash and was at my limit for stuff to lug around on that dismal rainy day.

This is like the 6th or 7th story I've heard where a daughter, wife or girlfriend saw Red & Pleasant lying around and was like "Whoa what's this...!"
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Jason D on August 09, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Zak S;847646This is like the 6th or 7th story I've heard where a daughter, wife or girlfriend saw Red & Pleasant lying around and was like "Whoa what's this...!"

She is a sometimes gamer already (mostly D&D)  but has not been terribly interested in any of the more recent stuff I have available.

It's really a nice creation, deserved of the awards bestowed on it. I don't buy a lot of gaming materials out of idle curiosity any more, so this one definitely caught my attention. I don't have a formed opinion yet because I've only had a few minutes to flip through it, but I definitely plan on using it in some fashion.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on August 11, 2015, 05:32:27 PM
I think art and presentation makes a difference in general for any game product. But I also suspect it particularly makes a difference (in very broad sweeping terms) for women.

I only recently that my teenaged niece is a gamer, her interest in D&D not actually having anything to do with me but something she developed entirely by herself; she was stunned to discover who I was and what I'd done in RPG gaming.  I made up for several lost birthdays by sending her Arrows of Indra and Dark Albion, and when she got Albion she was blown away by how great it looks.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Zak S on August 11, 2015, 05:37:28 PM
There are only 54 left.

Hurry up if you want one.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Molotov on August 11, 2015, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: Zak S;848108There are only 54 left.

Hurry up if you want one.
Kills me that there's still one at 1/2 cover price at Black Diamond Games (an flgs). I've got my two copies already, but if someone doesn't snag it soon, I'll get it for gift giving.

I get accused of snagging the best stuff as soon as it arrives in shops, I leave an R&PL and this is how I'm repaid. Bah!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Shipyard Locked on August 11, 2015, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;848105I only recently that my teenaged niece is a gamer, her interest in D&D not actually having anything to do with me but something she developed entirely by herself; she was stunned to discover who I was and what I'd done in RPG gaming.

I hope she was stunned in a positive sense. 'Cause you know, some people would be all...

(http://i.imgur.com/hssdRyb.jpg)
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: Mistwell on August 11, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: Zak S;846698I'd say, considering current events, nobody has grounds to give Zak S unsolicited PR advice until at least Christmas.

Finally we hear what you want for Christmas!
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: RPGPundit on August 13, 2015, 09:52:37 AM
Quite a positive sense. She also loved the books I sent her. She's got a good head on her shoulders.
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Post by: Jason D on August 16, 2015, 09:33:23 AM
Finally got the time to look at it, on a weekend getaway at a German spa town called Bad Saarow. Staying at an inn converted from a grade school (called "The Old School"). It felt oddly appropriate.

The book itself is very nice. I cannot wait to use it. It's a rare gaming product that advances the form to that of art, but this is definitely one of those bright few.
Title: Awards are stupid, but...
Post by: richaje on August 16, 2015, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: Jason D;849191Finally got the time to look at it, on a weekend getaway at a German spa town called Bad Saarow. Staying at an inn converted from a grade school (called "The Old School"). It felt oddly appropriate.

The book itself is very nice. I cannot wait to use it. It's a rare gaming product that advances the form to that of art, but this is definitely one of those bright few.

Oh I agree. I think Red and Pleasant Land is a truly remarkable piece of art.

Jeff