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Apology to Zak Smith

Started by Cam Banks, April 16, 2023, 03:18:49 PM

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Cam Banks

Please see the attached image.

Venka

Man, I'll say one thing, Zak S content is always unpredictable.

Grognard GM

You know in a movie, where someone is being mind controlled to do something against their will, but they're dragging their feet and decrying the action through clenched teeth, as they fight it with every iota of their mental strength, but are unable to stop?

This is the written apology version of that.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Brad

Quote from: Venka on April 16, 2023, 03:36:33 PM
Man, I'll say one thing, Zak S content is always unpredictable.

Well, when the porn money dries up I guess you move onto lawsuits.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Zak S

I'm going to re-post it here so it's easier for y'all to read:

"
APOLOGY
Over the last decade I've made many tweets referring to Zak Smith. In these tweets I went beyond ordinary or honest criticism, and referred to other allegations of criminal or abusive behaviour against Zak that have not been proved. I accept that I don't have any personal knowledge of any allegations I've referred to regarding Smith, and it was a mistake to refer to any serious allegations against him as if they had been proved. Everyone has a right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. I am sorry for the effect that these tweets have had on Zak and his professional reputation.

I am admitting this because Mr Smith sued me. After 2 years I've found no proof he did anything wrong, online or off. I have paid Mr Smith a cash settlement.
"
I won a jillion RPG design awards.

Buy something. 100% of the proceeds go toward legal action against people this forum hates.

Grognard GM

#5
'and referred to other allegations of criminal or abusive behaviour against Zak that have not been proved.'

You know, technically this says he has no proof of criminal or abusive behaviour have been perpetrated against you, not that there's no proof of you engaging in said behaviours.

I'm sure this is (judging by the rest of the letter) because this individual is functionally illiterate, but wording is important when it comes to legal documents.

EDIT: This is more of a nit-pick at the incredibly poorly written nature of the letter, than a suggestion of a gotcha or legitimate legal wriggle.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Zak S

I'll re-post this again.



Quote from: Zak S on April 16, 2023, 03:49:34 PM
I'm going to re-post it here so it's easier for y'all to read:

"
APOLOGY
Over the last decade I've made many tweets referring to Zak Smith. In these tweets I went beyond ordinary or honest criticism, and referred to other allegations of criminal or abusive behaviour against Zak that have not been proved. I accept that I don't have any personal knowledge of any allegations I've referred to regarding Smith, and it was a mistake to refer to any serious allegations against him as if they had been proved. Everyone has a right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. I am sorry for the effect that these tweets have had on Zak and his professional reputation.

I am admitting this because Mr Smith sued me. After 2 years I've found no proof he did anything wrong, online or off. I have paid Mr Smith a cash settlement.
"
I won a jillion RPG design awards.

Buy something. 100% of the proceeds go toward legal action against people this forum hates.

GnomeWorks

Why is this irrelevant shit here? Who fucking cares about shitmuffin?
Mechanics should reflect flavor. Always.
Running: Chrono Break: Dragon Heist + Curse of the Crimson Throne AP + Egg of the Phoenix (D&D 5e).
Planning: Rappan Athuk (D&D 5e).

Fheredin

Ahh, Cam Banks as in Cortex, right?

The moral of the story is that people can and should take criminal charges seriously by deferring to the criminal justice system when criminal charges are made. Not by fantasizing that Twitter retweets turn you into Batman. I wonder if TPB has begun the gaslighting, yet.

Steven Mitchell

Quote from: GnomeWorks on April 16, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Why is this irrelevant shit here? Who fucking cares about shitmuffin?

Apparently you do, enough to post about it.

GnomeWorks

Quote from: Steven Mitchell on April 16, 2023, 05:22:07 PMApparently you do, enough to post about it.

This is a stupid thing to say, and you fucking know it.
Mechanics should reflect flavor. Always.
Running: Chrono Break: Dragon Heist + Curse of the Crimson Throne AP + Egg of the Phoenix (D&D 5e).
Planning: Rappan Athuk (D&D 5e).

World_Warrior

I am more surprised that Cam has 49 other posts here. I'm assuming from long ago before the smear campaigns against this place started.

migo

Quote from: World_Warrior on April 16, 2023, 05:37:21 PM
I am more surprised that Cam has 49 other posts here. I'm assuming from long ago before the smear campaigns against this place started.

Surprisingly some are more recent. I've seen at least one post from him in the past year.

Aglondir

Quote from: GnomeWorks on April 16, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Why is this irrelevant shit here? Who fucking cares about shitmuffin?
It's very relevant. Both Zak S. and Pundit were consultants on 5E, and their credits were memory-holed by WOTC due to false accusations.

As for who cares? Perhaps you don't, but I'm glad to see that Woke liars get called out. If it were me, I would want justice. How about you? Is it Ok for someone to lie about you and ruin your career? Would you care if it happened to you?



rytrasmi

I know little of this drama, but when I see a tweet monger apologize for years of spreading lies, I can only be happy.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry