Anyone else not getting into FFG new Star Wars Rpgs

Manic Modron · June 27, 2017, 04:56:23 PM

I'm on my phone or I'd link a video, but for those who don't like the system it is a perfect opportunity to quote "Genesis allowed is not!" From Star Trek.

Omega · June 27, 2017, 05:50:09 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;971247Interesting, I just saw this: Edge of the Frontier: Western Hack for FFG's Edge of the Empire.

They release the rules under OGL or Creative Commons or something?

Last check FFG had not. So someone ganked the rules.

Bren · June 27, 2017, 08:16:52 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;971541That's an Age of Rebellion adventure, so I assume no.
Thanks Happydaze.

I'm pretty sure there's a conversion or two over on the Rancor Pit.

Krimson · June 27, 2017, 10:20:10 PM

Quote from: AaronBrown99;971840Very very excited for this!

If I had a group to play FFG Star Wars with, then I would totally invest in the books. There's even a ruleset someone made for Fantasy Grounds I think so I could try running it. But without a group I live little motivation to spend that much on something I'll only read. If I can get this in one tome, then it's more likely to be something I would purchase, though at my FLGS because shipping from the US nearly costs as much as the book itself these days.

jeff37923 · June 27, 2017, 10:27:06 PM

Quote from: tenbones;971795I would argue that even this isn't enough. By the standards of what most people consider a "Jedi" - this 150XP is really closer to being a Padawan. My memory might be sketchy, but I don't recall WEG ever doing this implicitly (though they might have). Most of the high-powered Jedi and Sith in the movies were 1500XP characters.

WEG never did, by the time that The Phantom Menace came out where we see the Jedi at their height for the first time, WEG was already in deep financial trouble. However, by digging through a treasure trove of fan made d6 Star Wars material recently, there have been some corrections to characters and templates that reflect the increased power of a Padawan or full Jedi Knight.

crkrueger · June 27, 2017, 10:36:25 PM

Quote from: tenbones;971832Well shit on two fronts.

1) I've been debating all you louts that this system doesn't have to be "narrative" - and these fucko's go an name the system "The Narrative System"... (it still doesn't need to be run AS a narrative system)

We were just humoring you. It was written by Jay Little for fuck's sake.

Quote from: tenbones;9718322) Now my torrid affair with Savage Worlds might have competition when I'm feeling like "dirty crunch-love". So dirty... so crunchy.

/writes letter to his ex-girlfriend d20. "My dear. Find another. I'm never coming back. I'll always be your friend. Tenbones"

Savage Worlds is crunchy?

You're not fooling anyone, btw, you and FantasyCraft will always be on the down low.

tenbones · June 28, 2017, 09:27:03 AM

Quote from: CRKrueger;971903We were just humoring you. It was written by Jay Little for fuck's sake.

I feel red-pilled. Fuck it. I'm still not playing it that way. I hereby coin a new term - Badrightfun!

Quote from: CRKrueger;971903Savage Worlds is crunchy?
You're not fooling anyone, btw, you and FantasyCraft will always be on the down low.

I meant that FFG is crunchy. She's my sidegirl while I'm with Savage Worlds. They don't hate one another, they don't judge. Unlike d20.

... and Fantasycraft? Yeah... we're taking a break.

RPGPundit · June 30, 2017, 06:39:46 PM

FFG produces dice-gimmick board games with rpg micro-settings.

Warboss Squee · June 30, 2017, 08:06:33 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;972404FFG produces dice-gimmick board games with rpg micro-settings.

Which blows your shit away.

Call it trash all you want, just comes across as sour apples.

HappyDaze · June 30, 2017, 09:22:36 PM

Quote from: tenbones;971795/agreed. A couple of skills don't need to exist. Some need to be broken out a bit more. And it's Cool/Vigilance - not Discipline. I get what they're going for (Cool is for people that are not paying attention overtly, and simply react. Vigilance is for people that say overtly they're "keeping alert"). I dunno about being blindfolded and the GM not giving some Setback dice for it... but whatever, like you said, it's easily fixed.

No, it is Cool/Discipline that I'm talking about because I'm not talking about initiative. Both Cool and Discipline refer to overcoming stress and emotional influences, and the line between them is very blurry.

And as far as initiative goes, your descriptions are the opposite of what FFG says. Cool is for going into a fight prepared while Vigilance is for when you stumble into a fight unprepared (though a good Vigilance means you end up being more prepared than some others).

Dumarest · July 01, 2017, 10:44:12 PM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;972413Which blows your shit away.

Call it trash all you want, just comes across as sour apples.

Is that the same as sour grapes?

HappyDaze · July 01, 2017, 11:23:53 PM

I don't think so. Sour apple is a commonly seen flavor of candy, while sour grapes is far less appreciated.

Warboss Squee · July 01, 2017, 11:30:20 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;972592I don't think so. Sour apple is a commonly seen flavor of candy, while sour grapes is far less appreciated.

Or I fucked up my idiom.

jeff37923 · July 02, 2017, 02:31:13 AM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;972593Or I fucked up my idiom.

Just remember that sour grapes make the best whine.....

Willie the Duck · July 03, 2017, 08:47:45 AM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;972413Which blows your shit away.

Call it trash all you want, just comes across as sour apples.

Do you think he's really just upset that FFG sells better than him?

Pundy has an amazing ability to criticize other games, usually because they include things he doesn't like as opposed to them actually being poor examples of what the designers were trying to achieve. And I can get criticizing him for that. I'm not sure, however, that I can get behind him getting more flack for that because he's produced gaming products than if he hadn't. He's done more heavy lifting in the game production field than I'll pretend I'll ever bother to do. That doesn't make his opinion any more valid than anyone else's, but it also doesn't make it less so either.