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Anti-5e Old-Schoolers: Why not just Admit it?

Started by RPGPundit, June 07, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

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Bill

Quote from: RPGPundit;773822I think I found a good compromise between the two extremes with Arrows of Indra.

I like how Indra handles skills.

It's hard to please everyone though, with an rpg skill system.

I started out with 1e dnd that does not really have skills, so I never developed a taste for super intricate skill systems.

Will

I'm a systems light guy. Not really a storyteller gamer as such (though it took me a while to suss out what my preferences really were), just... I don't want a lot of fiddly crap to deal with, let's just run through the world doing stuff, with a little bit of authorial nudge so people can help highlight cool moments.

5e is looking almost ideal for me - skills give characters, well, character beyond 'I shoot fire', along with backgrounds. The Inspiration rule helps that 'ok, this really matters, I want this moment to shine' kind of thing, Advantage and proficiency help cut a lot of details I don't really give a shit about.

Some people like fiddly crunch, and one could argue that some brands of old school are like that. Those people will probably not like 5e.

But the nice thing about having lots of different versions of a game is that people can find whatever matches their interests best.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.

The Ent

I like crunch, but I also like battles going relatively smoothly (eg less fiddly than 4e etc) and actual play Being fairly streamlined.

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: RPGPundit;773822I think I found a good compromise between the two extremes with Arrows of Indra.

You know, once I get a few extra sheckels I need to get me AoI.

I doubt extremely I'll ever run it as-is, but "All You Need To Know To Put Someplace That Is Much Like Mythic India Into Your D&D Game For People Who Are Not Fucking Experts In One Package" sounds attractive.

In other words, the background material.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Arkansan

Quote from: Old Geezer;774003You know, once I get a few extra sheckels I need to get me AoI.

I doubt extremely I'll ever run it as-is, but "All You Need To Know To Put Someplace That Is Much Like Mythic India Into Your D&D Game For People Who Are Not Fucking Experts In One Package" sounds attractive.

In other words, the background material.

You know the older I get just about the only reason I buy new gaming stuff anymore is to pilfer for ideas. I hardly ever buy something to run as is, I am getting to where I judge to the quality of a product based on how many ideas it gave me or things I was able to outright pilfer from it.

The Ent

Quote from: Arkansan;774128You know the older I get just about the only reason I buy new gaming stuff anymore is to pilfer for ideas. I hardly ever buy something to run as is, I am getting to where I judge to the quality of a product based on how many ideas it gave me or things I was able to outright pilfer from it.

Yeah, same here.

Opaopajr

Quote from: Arkansan;774128You know the older I get just about the only reason I buy new gaming stuff anymore is to pilfer for ideas. I hardly ever buy something to run as is, I am getting to where I judge to the quality of a product based on how many ideas it gave me or things I was able to outright pilfer from it.

I openly admit to buying games for their settings. Maybe for a new resolution system, but often those tidbits are equations or simple functions, and thus rarely need a purchase. Cannibalizing is like the oldest RPG tradition I started with. :)
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Will

GURPS is one of my favorite games that I never ever ever run, for pretty much this reason.

GURPS Space is about the single most useful textbook for generating system information I've ever found, by several orders of magnitude.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.