In the red corner we have the seasoned champion (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/217120000) and in the blue corner we have the young contender (http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/cnc/8951.html)
Who do you favour to produce the best li'l basic set - would you buy it ?
'cause I know you like the BIG games but sometimes small and pert does the trick.
What do you want from a basic set in 2008 - is it the same stuff you got way back in day or do you expect more ?
Crap. I mis-read the title of this thread as "Battle of the Sex Bots". I was totally going to buy a copy.
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Oh, I got that, man that brings back memories !
the 1st. ed rules - It's like Battletech with boners, the 'ARMY OF LOVERS' mass combat rules are amazing, oily mess and little deaths everywhere
The newer lite-edition is a bit 'meh' but here it is:
You and your opponent are Rampant Robots - each roll 2d6 (a white die and a red die)
The white die is your FEAR, The red die your DESIRE
Every time your FEAR outweighs your DESIRE your robocock is downgraded
Every time your DESIRE outweighs your FEAR your robocock is upgraded
The 1st robot to reach 10 upgrades wins as they are FREED FROM DESIRE
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaCrap. I mis-read the title of this thread as "Battle of the Sex Bots". I was totally going to buy a copy.
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I LOL @ this.
Seriously.
BTW the only box sets I buy are GW, and most are priced around $75.
It's good to have a nice job where I do nothing and yet still get paid in a bracket where I have to worry about the IRS.
I can't get the Troll Lords page to open for some reason.
fixed it, cheers Jeff !
Don't forget the dark horse - the new Dr Who RPG is a) meant to be an introductory game for kids (but complete in itself, no "here's rules for level 1-3, now if you want to go beyond that buy these three expensive hardbacks" bullcrap), and b) if I recall correctly, will be a boxed set.
...and you get to play Catherine Tate's character !!!
Really? I thought that British retailers were responsible for the death of the boxed set. Funny to see the new Doctor Who game coming out as such.
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I think book shops and book distributors, in general, were responsible for the death of the boxed set, as well as the decision by game company executives (and especially by TSR) that they would rather have a presence in bookshops than in toy stores.
Quote from: Sean...and you get to play Catherine Tate's character !!!
Help me out with something here...and I hope this won't take this thread too far off-topic.
Now, I've seen the episode, "The Runaway Bride". I'm not British, so perhaps I'm lacking some key frame of reference or something here, but...was Catherine Tate's character
supposed to annoy the unholy shit out of me? I mean, it was an amusing episode and all, but
damns she was a corrosive irritant.
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She played it as an unholy amalgam of her two best comedy characters - 'Lauren' and 'Sweary Gran' - and yes, very annoying it was too BUT she can act in serious stuff - I'm expecting her to do better in the new series - whoo, the trailer's good.
Its no contest, D&D Basic will win the sales wars, hands down.
Which is better? Have no idea. C&C seems to be a good game, but I have no desire for it. I'm not in the market for a Basic game at all, so I'm not a good judge.
Quote from: SeanWho do you favour to produce the best li'l basic set - would you buy it?
The WotC version. Castles & Crusades banks too much on nostaligia for me.
Seanchai
Unless WoTC has finally smartened up about this, they will continue to make the same mistake they've been making with their "basic" sets throughout all of 3e: they'll be cripplewear; playable to something like "level 2", so you can only handle it for three sessions of gameplay, and after that you're expected to buy the main books. So people will be more likely to feel royally fucking ripped off than interested in the cool new game.
On the other hand, the Troll Lords' set will have no meaningful coverage on the market. A bunch of aging gaming geeks will buy it for its "collectible" value, and it will make no impact on the hobby as a whole.
No, the Box Set that stands a chance of changing the gaming world this year isn't either of these: its the Doctor Who RPG.
RPGPundit
I'll echo what RPG Pundit said.
The essential problem with basic sets is the bind that TSR found itself in: If the basic game is good and worth playing, then consumers will demand more of it and won't upgrade to the more complex system. If the basic game is bad, if it is crippleware (great term!), then consumers won't upgrade to the more complex system.
A better idea is to produce something like HERO Games Sidekick, which presumes you have the full system and want a guide to the system, and doesn't advertise itself as a "basic game" but rather a "quick start rules" for the main system.
Though D&D 4E shouldn't need this at all, because if 4E is as complex and intimidating as the HERO 5th Ed., then someone fucked up royally.