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Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 05, 2010, 11:47:37 AM
Is there going to be a demo version of what seems to be essentially WoW 2? I'd love to give it a go but I have a hunch my graphics chip won't run it. It can just about handle LotrO (except for the waving trees of the Old Forest) and it runs WoW just fine, but I don't know if it will handle Cataclysm and I'm certainly not interested in finding out the hard way.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Tahmoh on December 05, 2010, 12:15:13 PM
since its a rolling change to huge parts of the main game world i think the standard wow demo should suffice though you may need to wait awhile as im not sure the full cataclysm event has actually kicked in yet(the pack isnt out till tuesday from what i can tell).
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: DominikSchwager on December 06, 2010, 01:17:06 PM
The world and graphics change is already live, so you can just go with the standard 10 day trial and see from the get go whether your machine can handle it.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 06, 2010, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: DominikSchwager;423683The world and graphics change is already live, so you can just go with the standard 10 day trial and see from the get go whether your machine can handle it.

I used a 10 day trial already on my account, can you use or get another one?
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: DominikSchwager on December 06, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
Make a new account, there is no restriction to how many you can have.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 06, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: DominikSchwager;423771Make a new account, there is no restriction to how many you can have.

That would mean pissing about with new credit cards if i choose to play and I can't be bothered doing that. too much hassle.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Tahmoh on December 06, 2010, 05:26:35 PM
cant you buy pre paid timecards for wow? why use a credit card when they save alot of time?
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: DominikSchwager on December 06, 2010, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: Ghost Whistler;423784That would mean pissing about with new credit cards if i choose to play and I can't be bothered doing that. too much hassle.

You make a new account, check out if the graphics work and if they do, you renew your old account.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 07, 2010, 07:50:20 AM
I've whipped out my old disks to install it (discs include BC, i never played WotLK), but it looks like i'm not the only one as it's going to apparently take about 20 hours to install a 5gb patch!

Correction 80 hours!

That's some serious server stress.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: danbuter on December 07, 2010, 09:11:54 AM
I did mine yesterday. Took around 3 hours, because you will also have 4 GB or so of additional patches once you click play following your initial installation.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 07, 2010, 09:15:27 AM
patch 3.3.x to 4.0.0 (assuming nothing beyond) is 5gb and 75 hours right now. Obviously the eu servers are taking a spanking.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Insufficient Metal on December 07, 2010, 09:23:51 AM
Yeah, that patch dropped weeks ago to try to mitigate the exact scenario you're suffering through now. It took my wife about a day and a half to download it even without the servers being crammed.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: danbuter on December 07, 2010, 09:58:42 AM
Just running around with my existing characters checking out all the changes. The human starting lands are really cool now, but completely empty (except for my rogue checking it out). I really like Dun Morogh now, with all the new gnome stuff.

I might check out the Horde side with my Blood Elf. I'm guessing most people are crammed into the Worgen and Goblin starting areas.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 07, 2010, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Insufficient Metal;423893Yeah, that patch dropped weeks ago to try to mitigate the exact scenario you're suffering through now. It took my wife about a day and a half to download it even without the servers being crammed.

I think i'd prefer to download the patch directly; the updater seems to work like a torrent file and the download speed is around 30k a second which is dire. I don't really see, given that it's working like a torrent, it should be that slow.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 08, 2010, 10:33:31 AM
Anyone know how to speed up this downloader it's absurdly slow - 30ks for a 5gb file? Are you on crack? I'm capable of ten times this speed routinely on uTorrent, so why do Blizzard want me to take 10 times as long to download their game? All the ports are open, everythign seems to be set properly, it's just slower than an asthmatic snail going uphill in a snowstorm with a heavy bag of briezeblocks on a sunday.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: danbuter on December 08, 2010, 11:31:03 AM
It might be your provider. I was downloading at 1MB/s using Comcast.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Werekoala on December 08, 2010, 02:53:12 PM
I had the same problem awhile back when I did a full reinstall without discs - I had to change the port forwarding on my PC (but first I had to learn to do that) and it made all the difference. I had Cataclysm installed and was playing in about an hour yesterday.

Pretty good stuff - I went therough the entire Worgen starting zone. Like it. Started on the Goblin one - it is suitably wacky.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: danbuter on December 08, 2010, 03:08:24 PM
The goblin zone is awesome. The worgen zone is also pretty cool.

Also, I had a little lag yesterday around 530 PM EST, but nothing later on.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 08, 2010, 06:31:53 PM
i've forwarded all necessary ports, but this downloader is horrendously slow.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: DominikSchwager on December 09, 2010, 05:54:07 AM
The downloader works perfectly fine for me. Should be something on your end. Perhaps try the blizzard helping site.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Tahmoh on December 09, 2010, 06:57:05 AM
Who's your net provider? coz some UK providers are dicks about downloading big files and like to restrict the flow till stupid o'clock in the night(talktalk for instance likes to take the piss and restrict it till around 2:30-3am most days).
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 09, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: Broken-Serenity;424415Who's your net provider? coz some UK providers are dicks about downloading big files and like to restrict the flow till stupid o'clock in the night(talktalk for instance likes to take the piss and restrict it till around 2:30-3am most days).

I know, but the problem is the downloader. Lots of other people have slow speeds with this and, simultanteously, i can download other files at normal speeds. It's the downloader, and I must assume that the sources for the patch are just crap/non existent. Very occasionally it will accelarate but it's routinely hovering around 4k/s right now. THis is the dumbest patching process i've ever seen, I'm genuinely gobsmacked that B have chosen this for WoW, just gobsmacked. i'm into day 3 of this file and i've got about another 800mb to go. At top speed i can normally d/l a gig in an hour, which is fine. This is just a joke - and there are a couple more patches to come!
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: danbuter on December 09, 2010, 11:21:43 AM
Have you contacted WoW about it?
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 09, 2010, 11:35:28 AM
I didn't see the point ringing them up (not cheap), especially as i'm hogging the phoneline downloading!

Can't post on the forums for tech support without a paid up account.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 09, 2010, 02:48:17 PM
Finally! It is done!

Just another 6gb of data to go!

Really smart game design guys. Well done.

This is hilarious, now i've reached the playable stage where it lets you play somewhat while still patching (or some shit like that) and the login server is down. Presumably Deathwing destroyed all the servers as well as azeroth, and my patience.

I bet after all this it doesn't work and my graphics aren't up to the job.

Oh well.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: DominikSchwager on December 11, 2010, 06:03:37 AM
I love your positive outlook on life and how minor setbacks don't even rattle you.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 11, 2010, 07:02:08 AM
Finally, it has installed. Patching complete.

It looks exactly the same.

The differences seem to be the addition of new water textures, shafts of sunlight and probably a few tighter textures here and there, all of which my
Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL onboard graphic abacus cannot run.

I'm not really surprised. But i thought they had more significanlty overhauled the graphics, not just added a couple of features.

Oddly enough I can run all those features in LotrO but not in WoW with it's much more dated base graphics. So sad.

Would have been nice to see it look better, but i can't really justify paying for it as is. It's not what i want.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Bradford C. Walker on December 15, 2010, 03:49:53 PM
Try playing the game.  Questing, overall, is much improved- but also is very much a Theme Park where zones are modeled on Zone-as-Story.  The starting zones for Worgen and Goblins are excellent, though integration into the larger world is a bit lacking.  (Also, no serious change to the Draenei and Blood Elf zones- including the ability to fly.)  I haven't had as much fun questing as I did taking my main from 80 to 85.  It's really good now.
Title: WoW Cataclysm
Post by: Ghost Whistler on December 16, 2010, 05:24:28 AM
I tried it, but in order to run Cataclysm you need all the expansions and I don't have Lich King. Not only that, but the game just looks ass on my machine because I can't run any of the new textures/effects so I won't be pursuing a subscription. I certainly can't afford to buy a new machine just to play WoW, even though if I could run it I would.