The Fallout 3 thread.

I just dropped the disk into my Xbox 360.  Ron Perlman does the intro narration again.  So far, so good.  So far the only disappointment is that there is no recipe in the instruction manual, but you can't have everything.

More thoughts to come.

... and it's already torrented, wow. Which with it being A$110 here Down Under is very tempting, not that my machine can run it anyway. I'll have to be content with visiting friends and going "ooh, aah" over their playing of it. And of course, hearing all about it on threads like this!

I just hope it feels like Fallout and not Oblivion with a Fallout mod.  I'll be scooping up the PC version as soon as my PSU is fixed/replaced.

It's hard to say how it's going to feel to you.  It's certainly easy to say it's Oblivion with Guns.  But it's more then that.  The overall presentation has a lot of the fallout charm to go with it.  The dialogue is certainly more entertaining then it was in Oblivion.  Also there are some interesting situations you can come across that feel very much like something from Fallout.  However it's still primarily played as a 1st person shooter.  You can tweak it with VATS but it's still ultimately an FPS.  The VATS kinda reminds me of how Stranglehold has that Aimed attack mode only Fallout relies on skill to see if you make the shot not just putting your pointer on the target.

The immediate thing to say is that it is Oblivion only better in almost every way, graphics, dialogue, story and tension.  But to decide on if it's better then Fallout well that's up the the player and what you enjoyed in Fallout vs whats in Fallout 3.

absolutely loving it.

QuoteThe immediate thing to say is that it is Oblivion only better in almost every way, graphics, dialogue, story and tension. But to decide on if it's better then Fallout well that's up the the player and what you enjoyed in Fallout vs whats in Fallout 3.

absolutely.  if you're a no mutants allowed forum regular, you probably won't like it.  if you 're a fan of the Fallout "universe", and enjoyed Oblivion, it will not disappoint.

Sounds good to me.  Plus with the PC version I'm sure the modding community will be out in force.  I put more time into Oblivion mods than the actual game I think.

I wouldn't hold my breath for Fallout 3 mods anytime soon based on

Quote from: Pete HinesRPS: There’s a Conspiracy Theory that would suggest that you’re removing the mod tools to make downloadable content more attractive. As in, if you get extra value for free, why buy the official stuff?

    Hines: That’s a good theory, by the way. And probably on some level it would work… but from our standpoint, whenever we do an Elder Scrolls game and release those mod tools, it takes a ton of work and effort. This is a bigger undertaking for us, and one we’ve not yet scheduled for. Is that to say it’ll never come out? No, I’ll never say that. If we have the time, we’d absolutely like to put them out. As we’ve seen with Oblivion and Morrowind those things definitely create a sense of community and there’s tonnes of people out there modding. We have our own little blog we run from Bethesda, and every week we’re out there interviewing people from our mod community – so it’s clearly something we support, something we take interest in and something we place value in and spend a lot of time highlighting good mods. It’s just the tools take time. They don’t magically appear. Someone’s got to write help files for what all the scripts do, and get it released as a consumer product. Because it’s not in that state otherwise. Developers will make do with anything.

It brings up an interesting point, certainly, that being, why should developers bother with the mod community when they can cash in on DLC? The answer is simple: shelf life.

    Another Journalist Interjecting: Also, it’s part of a PC world, which is not part of the console world which is a bigger part of the business than it might have been previously.

    Hines: That’s the other thing. Yes, the PC mod community does help extend the life of a product by the number of people who are still playing it, but as we’ve seen in Oblivion, there’s still people who are playing it on the 360 in the tens of thousands two and a half years later. In insane numbers. For two years in a row we were still in the top 10 most played Xbox games in the year, with zero user-mods. So yes, I definitely think it helps extend the community – but it’s not the only thing out there. The games themselves also do lend themselves to be continuously played and replayed. So yes, it’s a good conspiracy theory, but has nothing to do with the facts. It’s just a case of “Who the hell is going to do this?” as everyone is working on getting the game done right now.

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Quote from: kryyst;261339I wouldn't hold my breath for Fallout 3 mods anytime soon based on

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Balls.  They have one of the most active mod communities consistently playing their games.

First impressions:

I forgot Liam Neeson was slated to have a role in the game.

I'm not that far into it yet, having just played the intro portion.  If the Vault is any indication of the rest of Fallout 3's graphical design, then they could not have done a better job of translating the 2D-isometric graphics of the first two games into 3D-first person graphics.  They nailed the look and feel.

My only complaint with the graphics is with the lighting, shadows in particular.  Faces and bodies tend to get hidden or cloaked in shadows at some weird angles.  This seems to be a common problem with sandbox 3D games as I have the same complaint with Oblivion and Grand Theft Auto IV.

The first part of the game serves as character creation and tutorial.  It's a mix of Fallout 1 and 2, Morrowind and Oblivion with point allocation, questionnaire and in-game decisions.  It can be a bit overwhelming but as with Oblivion you can make any last minute changes before heading out into the "real world".

I'm not too incredibly keen on the turn based version of combat just yet.  It's a nice throwback to the originals' turn-based targeting method but it just seems...off...I'll chalk it up to newbie learning curve for now.  

Conversation is by far and away much better than Oblivion's.  There's no goofy mini-game to persuade people, it's all traditional Charisma+Stat base.

Can't decide to buy for the PC or X360....

Cavscout:  I got the PC version just in case the mod tools do make an appearance, which i personally think is inevitable.  (or user-made 'hacks' at the very least..)

Quote from: kregmosier;261531Cavscout:  I got the PC version just in case the mod tools do make an appearance, which i personally think is inevitable.  (or user-made 'hacks' at the very least..)

I just got an X360, and games seem more fun to play form the couch than on the PC. My only gripe for the X360 would be 1st person shooters... I just can't give up the mouse/keyboard for them.

Quote from: CavScout;261541I just got an X360, and games seem more fun to play form the couch than on the PC. My only gripe for the X360 would be 1st person shooters... I just can't give up the mouse/keyboard for them.

ditto...won't play any FPS games on console.  i prefer the mouse/keyboard period, really, and i don't take away from anyone else in the houses' TV viewing.

Quote from: kregmosier;261542ditto...won't play any FPS games on console.  i prefer the mouse/keyboard period, really, and i don't take away from anyone else in the houses' TV viewing.

I am trying to get info on Left 4 Dead to see if it is a FPS or 3rd person so I know which to order it for.

I find that the FPS's designed for x360 work pretty good in the single player games.  GoW, CoD, etc... the controls aren't as good as mouse keyboard but they are perfectly usable for the single player game.  Where I find they start to be come more laggy is when you go online and reaction time seems to matter all the more.

However Fallout 3 on xbox perfectly fine even though it is FPS it's not so twitch based that it's a problem and the ability to snap into VATS goes along way.  So while a spec'd out PC certainly looks better then the x360 version the x360 version is still gorgeous and personally I find I spend way more time with my 360 then I do with my PC these days.  I just find it more fun to play games on it.