The Stretch Goals are making the $140 Battle Cry worthwhile. The box now includes a Spartan and Phalanx, and 2 more Destroids. If they can go from 2200 backers to 2600 in the next 20 days, they will add +2 support Battlepods.

Quote from: Spinachcat;650507The Stretch Goals are making the $140 Battle Cry worthwhile. The box now includes a Spartan and Phalanx, and 2 more Destroids. If they can go from 2200 backers to 2600 in the next 20 days, they will add +2 support Battlepods.

They should make it. I have a feeling a lot of people are holding out for the Super Valkyrie and the Female Power Armors. Once those two go up as stretch goals, this thing will explode with backers and funding.

The KS is moving pretty nicely. The Battle Cry box will probably have over 70 minis when the KS is done. At $2 for each mecha, that's pretty rocking.

Well, at least they added the Destroid Monster that I was hoping for.

Beautiful.

Now if someone would just kickstart a Dougram and Crusher Joe miniatures project of some kind...

They have now passed $750K and have unlocked the FPA and a special Miriya version of the FPA.

Just a heads up there is just 48 hours left. Its currently at $977K in backing.

For anyone interested I suggest the Battle Cry backing at $140, its $60 more then just the box set but has over $200 in add-ons included with it.

Link showing everything you currently get in Battle Cry and available add-ons.

At time of this Post:

26 Hours left
4,321 Backers
$1,066,978 USD funded

Wow.
Next two stretch goals: resin copies of the SDF-1 in vessel and stormtrooper mode. :eek:

The $140 BattleCry is now truly amazing with all the freebies. Not only do you have plenty of figures to play a great big 4 person game, but you also have enough to field 2 very competitive and tailored armies full of special units for competitive events.

For RPGers, the BattleCry set is crazy good if you play Palladium's Robotech RPG or if you want a run Robotech with Savage Worlds or other RPG where lots of mecha minis combat would be fun.

I am very impressed. I jumped in after there were 70 minis in the box and the KS hit over $600k because that's the number I believe they really needed to get the ball rolling on real production. Also $2 per mini is a safe sales number if I flip the game on eBay if I don't like it later on.


Now that its at $1.1M, I am feeling confident that this KS will actually happen. Even if they have a 10% loss from flaky people (it happens) and spent 10% on fees with Amazon and KS, they will have the necessary funds and a good buffer to make it happen.

Of course, Palladium is involved so I would add 6 months to their delivery date estimate for your peace of mind.

Quote from: Spinachcat;656075Of course, Palladium is involved so I would add 6 months to their delivery date estimate for your peace of mind.

I noticed a conspicous LACK of a delivery date.
Along with the "we finished the majority of our molds", yet more than half the pictures are CGI or line art, rather than an actual model.

I want Palladium to suceed, but I'll admit to getting worried they may become victims of their own success; Robotech fans aren't going to be as accomodating as Palladium fans, to delays. Refunds after the initial start-up, are going to hit Palladium's bottom line. Not Kickstarter, not Ninja Division, but Palladium's. They can go from black to red very easily, if they don't handle this right...

It strikes me that all kickstarters should be viewed as a lottery with the chance of no return. This even for 'pre-order' projects like this one and Bones. In both cases, I thought there's a good (50/50 or better) chance I'd get something. And in both cases I'm willing to write off the money if I don't as a type of entertainment.

I fully expect both to produce results late (the Reaper Bones is now what, 2 months past due?) even if I do get what was promised.

I must say of the two, Bones was more fun so far. This one is mostly 'buy these other things" unlocks and they are less than thrilling.

Quote from: Novastar;656183I noticed a conspicous LACK of a delivery date.

On the KS page, they say that Delivery Date is December 2013. My bet is June 2014 and that's where I am putting my mindset for expectation with the added caveat that I plan to be okay with December 2014 as the real delivery date.

I expect KS projects to be late and combined with Palladium, I have to expect Mega-Lateness to occur.

Quote from: Novastar;656183They can go from black to red very easily, if they don't handle this right...

I am still confused on whose project this belongs to. Is PB just the license guys? Is PB going to be supporting the game long term? Is PB going to be selling boxes of minis from their warehouse?

Or is Ninja Division doing everything and just paying a license fee?

So I have no idea who would be doing the refunds. Perhaps PB isn't even in the money loop beyond a license fee.

Quote from: gleichman;656187It strikes me that all kickstarters should be viewed as a lottery with the chance of no return.

This is something I discuss often on the Palladium forums and other venues in regards to Kickstarter. I am a very big fan of crowdfunding and I believe KS is a great advancement for all niche hobbies and interests.

BUT it is not a pre-order. We are pledging money like patrons of an artist, hoping that there will be an amazing final product. Anyone joining a KS project has to accept a level of risk.

My statement has always been that nobody should pledge more than they can afford to lose (financially and emotionally).

AKA, if the money vanishes, are you gonna be okay? Certainly not happy, but a person has gotta be okay with a KS pledge vanishing or taking a couple extra years to deliver or they should avoid being part of any crowdsource project.

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1.298 million funded

4979 backers

Quote from: Spinachcat;656190I am still confused on whose project this belongs to. Is PB just the license guys? Is PB going to be supporting the game long term? Is PB going to be selling boxes of minis from their warehouse?

Or is Ninja Division doing everything and just paying a license fee?

So I have no idea who would be doing the refunds. Perhaps PB isn't even in the money loop beyond a license fee.

I don't know if Palladium realizes it, but they've become the ones liable by hosting the KS; at this point, Ninja Division is a subcontractor to Palladium.

So if for some reason Ninja Division goes belly-up or the guys don't produce, Palladium has to pay the piper.
(Hence why I'm confused why Palladium hosted the KS; they're assuming a HELL OF A LOT OF RISK, for a licensed game)

QuoteThis is something I discuss often on the Palladium forums and other venues in regards to Kickstarter. I am a very big fan of crowdfunding and I believe KS is a great advancement for all niche hobbies and interests.

BUT it is not a pre-order. We are pledging money like patrons of an artist, hoping that there will be an amazing final product. Anyone joining a KS project has to accept a level of risk.

My statement has always been that nobody should pledge more than they can afford to lose (financially and emotionally).

AKA, if the money vanishes, are you gonna be okay? Certainly not happy, but a person has gotta be okay with a KS pledge vanishing or taking a couple extra years to deliver or they should avoid being part of any crowdsource project.

I agree 100%, which is why I'll be buying when it hits store shelves; $140 is a lot of money for me to spend (even on a good deal), when KS's are historically a 50/50 gamble.