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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Board looks very good on an actual table however, it's also a good strategy board game to boot!
You must be the only one who likes it then, from what I've gleaned.
Quote from: KrakaJakThe Board looks very good on an actual table however, it's also a good strategy board game to boot!
What's your basis of comparison?
The use of the word "strategy" makes me suspicious, too.
Seems kinda dubious to mock it on anything other then its looks. We can see it on the page, here, but I can't tell from the forum post how it plays.
OTOH, I don't have a giant dislike of Exalted. My bias is actually mildly positive about the game, so that might color things a bit.
I thought the game looked utterly boring compared to the awesomeness locked inside the RPG. Why not use the entire setting so you can get the weirdness on the edge of the Creation map? Where are the robots and dinosaurs? The floating island fortresses? The anime babes? The back of the box makes it look like a slightly Oriental faux Tolkien vanilla fantasy game.
Quote from: Thanatos02Seems kinda dubious to mock it on anything other then its looks. We can see it on the page, here, but I can't tell from the forum post how it plays.
This thread is not about how it plays.
It's about how it looks.
And it looks like shit.
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Hrm. Looks about as good as pictures of Settlers of Catan do.
Quote from: Pierce InverarityThis thread is not about how it plays.
It's about how it looks.
And it looks like shit.
:bunny:
And? A lot of great-playing games
look like utter shit, and a lot of fantastic-looking games play like ass.
Quote from: RezendevousAnd? A lot of great-playing games look like utter shit, and a lot of fantastic-looking games play like ass.
No excuses.
Quote from: Elliot WilenWhat's your basis of comparison?
The fact I own it and have played it! I've also own and play lots of other board games!
It looks good on a table, as I've seen very nice looking boards in pictures...that look butt ugly on a table(like say...Max Impierialis, or Prince of the City). The reverse is also true, some boards that look bad in pictures look great on a table(Settlers of Catan, Mousetrap)
The Exalted Boardgame plays like a heavily houseruled Risk set on the blessed isle. The players are Dragonblooded vying for control. There's a lot of strategy involved. With multiple win conditions and secret charms.
It makes a lot of sense to those of us who have actually read what Exalted was about:)
Quote from: Pierce InverarityThis thread is not about how it plays.
It's about how it looks.
And it looks like shit.
:bunny:
:: shrugs :: Whatever. I don't give a shit how it looks. I'm a little curious as to how it plays.
It looks a little bland, but not really awful.
Quote from: KrakaJakThe Exalted Boardgame plays like a heavily houseruled Risk set on the blessed isle. The players are Dragonblooded vying for control. There's a lot of strategy involved. With multiple win conditions and secret charms.
But...there are so few spaces, with so little variation in geometric relationship.
I'm...skeptical. But I'd join a group of players, I guess, if that was what was on the menu.
By way of comparison, I do think that Wizard's Quest (http://boardgamegeek.com/game/310) and Emperor of China (http://boardgamegeek.com/game/1987) are good games at the lower limit of complexity in Risk-like mechanics.
Europe vs America
"This house is ugly!"
European strikers move arguments directly towrds the scoreline!
"But it´s warm and safe inside, why are you saying it´s ugly?"
America intercepts the argument, tosses it against the wall, it bounces off and scores a point via puzzling the European defense.
"Because it´s ugly on the outside."
Europe has the ball again.
"You are a bad person for saying this, please consider the inner value of the house if you talk about it´s exterior!"
America scores another one, by sheer force of not-getting-what-Europe-is-trying-to-say.
HALF-TIME
QuoteThe Exalted Boardgame plays like a heavily houseruled Risk set on the blessed isle.
So far so good.
QuoteThere's a lot of strategy involved.
Is a direct contradiction to the first sentence, please decide!
I get what you're saying, Sett, but I figure the conversation is allowed to move on past what it looks like. You can have about two reactions to how the board looks:
1: The board is ugly.
-: No it's not.
2: The board is ugly.
-: Yeah, ok.
Short of serious questions about board game ascetics vs. functionality or whatever (the latter issue seeming to be... taboo or something?), you're not going to get much else out of that conversation.
My response (and I'm not sure why I'm getting so much flak for it) is just: "It looks bland but not awful. I await more information about the game itself."
So, in other words, screw off. I got the point behind making fun of the game. Do you understand why I might be interested in how it played, or do you value all your board games based on their appearance as shown on an internet message board?
There is obviously nothing to say against talking about either the actual game or the living qualities of a house, generally.
But in a discussion of aesthetics, it´s pointless.
It´s just not what this is about.
Let´s get to the aesthetics:
- Colour choice is terrible.
- Map looks overly simplistic and lacking enough variables for any kind of complex spatial problem solving. (If the looks are deceiving, it´s STILL a problem)
- Mt. Ding-Dong
Quote from: Elliot WilenBut...there are so few spaces, with so little variation in geometric relationship.
I'm...skeptical. But I'd join a group of players, I guess, if that was what was on the menu.
By way of comparison, I do think that Wizard's Quest (http://boardgamegeek.com/game/310) and Emperor of China (http://boardgamegeek.com/game/1987) are good games at the lower limit of complexity in Risk-like mechanics.
The spaces change in value every time you play (or can, you can be lazy and not move the value chips around) plus...there's the water spaces as well (which have a constant value).
The map is simple looking because it gets covered in playing pieces. Eventually a Shitload of playing pieces.
Quote from: SettembriniSo far so good.
Is a direct contradiction to the first sentence, please decide!
How is that a direct contradiction?
Did you read "houseruled"?
Axis & Allies is a heavily houseruled risk (it's team Risk with multiple unit types, set in WWII), does it not require a lot of strategy to win?
This is Risk, with d10s, each player with a unique special ability (Anima Banner), a deck of other special abilties that are purchased(charms), with two resources to keep track of (jade and essence) and multiple win conditions (land control, sea control or overwhelming essence).
Risk...by the way, also has a good amount of strategy, it just not the kind governed by the rules! It's all social in Risk (temporary alliances, couples at play, backstabs). Just like Munchkin and Monopoly.
Quote from: Elliot WilenBy way of comparison, I do think that Wizard's Quest (http://boardgamegeek.com/game/310) and Emperor of China (http://boardgamegeek.com/game/1987) are good games at the lower limit of complexity in Risk-like mechanics.
Furthermore, Wizard's Quest doesn't look like shit.
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Krakajak,
Okay, let´s just say I get what you are saying. We can leave it at: "About as much strategy as Axis & Allies", whatever that may mean to each of us. It´s a totally valid statement.
EDIT:
Wizard´s Quest
aesthetics are superiour
- colour´s are chosen in a professional manner
- there´s hand drawn, and in that case, superiour craftsmanship regarding the iconographic elements
I've never played Wizard's Quest but the castles and whatnot pop right out of the board very nicely.
Jeff, it's one of the most attractive chit games ever made. The map is incredible. And Elliot is spot on--it's simple but exciting. If my gaming budget weren't exhausted I'd pick it up. The BGG trader list has several offers of "Very Good" copies at ten (10) bucks.