My favorite RPG might just be 1st Edition WFRP, followed by 2nd Edition AD&D. So with that in mind my thoughts have been turning to iconic images from 1st Edition WFRP. And if I don't have enough "irons in the fire" as it were when it comes to Warhammer projects my thoughts have been turning to the next large scale terrain project. What got me thinking about it is this: https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/The-Village-of-Hommlet-moathouse.jpg
T1 The Village of Hommlet was a classic, seminal module for many and the Moathouse (meat grinder thought it was/is) stands a indelible image of AD&D. I think for me it would be fairly easy to do something like this, but its already been done as it were. And I should add its an excellent model all around so no need to do it again.
So with that in mind my thoughts have started to coalesce around this:
(https://whfrp.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/4/0/12408478/698920850_orig.jpg?340)
It's certainly an ambitious undertaking at a 25-28mm scale, but after this I think I can pull it off: http://dogsofwaronline.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1223&pid=22160#pid22160
I don't think anyone has ever done something quite like this in terms of an old-school module as a terrain piece, that is in WFRP terms.
Now, I do have the module (obviously) but one thing I'd have to decide early on is which route to go. What do I mean by that? The floor plan/map is not the same as the art which is to be expected.
(http://www.dogsofwaronline.com/images/willmark/misc/castle_von_wittgenstein_map.png)
The tougher route to go with is the art because its just that one picture from the cover and the backside not shown would require some guess work based on the map.
An amazing undertaking, that's for sure.
Keeping it with the floorplan would keep it at a manageable scale. I mean, the castle in the illustration is huuuuuge (compare to the riverboats in the foreground). Maybe make the floors 'needlessly' high to make it appear more imposing, many castle halls were taller than one might guess.
I think the art's proportions are weird, and/or the boats are quite small. I think the artist was more interested in making something look excitingly excessively exaggerated vertically, and was willing to make the foreground items look smaller and make crazy-steep/high cliffs for effect, and/or just doesn't have or care about an accurate sense of scale.
Well, and also, the green that looks a bit like trees on the far bank of the river - looks like the river and ground by it are drawn at one scale, while the castle on the hill is drawn zoomed in 10 to 20 times the size it would appear if those are trees on the far bank.
You certainly have the skill based on the other stuff you've done on that site. You should take commissions and sell that stuff if you can do them quickly enough.
Also no thread about Castle Wittgenstein should go without mentioning that Death on the Reik is now available via PDF from C7.
And there was talk of Shadows over Bogenhafen (leading eventually to Wittgenstein) just last night, too. Would love to see that as a model. Patreon?
Quote from: Dr. Ink'n'stain;1017249An amazing undertaking, that's for sure.
Keeping it with the floorplan would keep it at a manageable scale. I mean, the castle in the illustration is huuuuuge (compare to the riverboats in the foreground). Maybe make the floors 'needlessly' high to make it appear more imposing, many castle halls were taller than one might guess.
I think no matter which route I go I'm going to have to compact the overall structure. The map is more squat as it were while the illustration is longer. So far my thoughts have been coalescing around starting with the middle tower first. That is going to really set the stage in my opinion. The best part is I do have the mini for the chaos warrior Ulfhednar the Destroyer (a Warrior of Chaos) who appears in the module to use as my scale reference. I think if I can get the middle tower right in terms of proportions the rest will come together. The one thing for me to really consider is this an art project or a piece of terrain? I'm not sure I know yet. The whole thing could be broken down into three sections quite easily. Also, with my Nippon castle I've been working on I've become quiet adept at making the interior sections so there is that too. I could possibily create the defamed Temple of Sigmar, the Thing in the Pit! the Hall of Clocks and Lady Margareitte's lab!
Quote from: Skarg;1017252I think the art's proportions are weird, and/or the boats are quite small. I think the artist was more interested in making something look excitingly excessively exaggerated vertically, and was willing to make the foreground items look smaller and make crazy-steep/high cliffs for effect, and/or just doesn't have or care about an accurate sense of scale.
Well, and also, the green that looks a bit like trees on the far bank of the river - looks like the river and ground by it are drawn at one scale, while the castle on the hill is drawn zoomed in 10 to 20 times the size it would appear if those are trees on the far bank.
It's certainly possible, as I note above the scale is going to have to undergo some compression if for not other reason than the height of the cliff walls leading up to the castle. Fortunately, there are some White Dwarfs from the early 2000s that document large structures like Helm's Deep and Mt Doom when the LOTR game was being featured to help me along.
Quote from: CRKrueger;1017269You certainly have the skill based on the other stuff you've done on that site. You should take commissions and sell that stuff if you can do them quickly enough.
Thanks but I'm not sure I'm that fast or that good to be able to get people to buy my stuff, but thanks for the compliment.
And an update after several nights of work, still rough, but underway:
http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17376&pid=281874#pid281874
Looking great!
It's getting there. Might have the base wrapped in paper mache by this weekend.
Cool, looking forward to it.
Thanks for sharing this. After looking at your Japanese castle, I look forward to seeing what you do with Castle von Wittgenstein.
Thanks. I'm working on tons of stuff at the moment and didn't get a chance to work on the castle this weekend. I also want to finish the moat for the Nippon castle too.
Quote from: Willmark;1020989Thanks. I'm working on tons of stuff at the moment and didn't get a chance to work on the castle this weekend. I also want to finish the moat for the Nippon castle too.
What does the finished article(s) look like?
That castle is the centerpiece of an amazing campaign. I'd love to see this work in progress.
Quote from: Motorskills;1033862What does the finished article(s) look like?
The Nippon castle? Still not done.
Quote from: Willmark;1035895The Nippon castle? Still not done.
And the Schloss Von Wittgenstein project?