Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 10, 2023, 10:53:40 AM
You know, I've been hearing BG3 has a serious issue in its save game mechanism where it doesn't want to cloud sync.

That's an even better reason to hold off on buying it.

Definite deal breaker for me. I had a similar problem with Pillars of Eternity and ended up rage quitting and swearing off Obsidian for life, cuz over a decade after release they still hadn't fix it and I kept losing my saves at random from time to time.

Good thing my computer currently can't even run BG3, so I wasn't in a hurry to get it anyway.

As I said, this problem it is already fixed. And, if you don't plan to play on multiple platforms, Steam Cloud worked from day 1 (crossplay will basically be for PS 5 - as you can transfer saves between PC and Mac via Steam Cloud).

Quote from: Reckall on August 11, 2023, 04:34:28 AM
As I said, this problem it is already fixed. And, if you don't plan to play on multiple platforms, Steam Cloud worked from day 1 (crossplay will basically be for PS 5 - as you can transfer saves between PC and Mac via Steam Cloud).

Are there still issues in multiplayer mode? Such as cut scenes only being visible to one of the players?

Anyway, just to clear the situation a bit, the intro cinematic shows what BG3 is about. I.e. not bear porn.

Spelljammer + Planescape + Alien (!) + What a Dragon Strike Force can be when they are serious - all wrapped in sheer D&D. BG3 is currently the ninth game with most concurrent gamers on Steam ever - all looking for bear porn, I guess...

Quote from: Reckall on August 11, 2023, 07:56:19 AM
Anyway, just to clear the situation a bit, the intro cinematic shows what BG3 is about. I.e. not bear porn.

Spelljammer + Planescape + Alien (!) + What a Dragon Strike Force can be when they are serious - all wrapped in sheer D&D. BG3 is currently the ninth game with most concurrent gamers on Steam ever - all looking for bear porn, I guess...

What annoys me is why was it necessary to include the AO content in the first place?

It seems like a perfectly good game without it.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 11, 2023, 07:58:55 AM

Quote from: Reckall on August 11, 2023, 07:56:19 AM
Anyway, just to clear the situation a bit, the intro cinematic shows what BG3 is about. I.e. not bear porn.

Spelljammer + Planescape + Alien (!) + What a Dragon Strike Force can be when they are serious - all wrapped in sheer D&D. BG3 is currently the ninth game with most concurrent gamers on Steam ever - all looking for bear porn, I guess...

What annoys me is why was it necessary to include the AO content in the first place?

It seems like a perfectly good game without it.

I like to imagine a marketing meeting.

"We still haven't involved all the influencers out there. What we can do?"

"Hmmm... wokeism is on its way out. What about BEAR PORN? A lot of people will screech against it - incrementing our visibility by 500%. And we have not to worry, because they will be derided."

"GENIUS!"

But, truth to be told, the game already hasn't bear porn. You have to look for it hard if you want to find it - and you can still refuse. BG3 isn't about bear porn at all.

It can be about being a evil thrall of Asmodeus from minute one, of course, but no one thinks that it would be a degenerate choice - so they couldn't use that to amplify their visibility.

Yeah, I have to say things like the bear f**king or the romantic furry brunch initially concerned me about what the game would be like, but outside of a couple minor things in character creation (which were nothing to get riled up about), I haven't run into anything remotely woke in gameplay. It's been playing like a good old-fashioned computer RPG. I was completely sold when it allowed me to pick up a goblin and throw him to his death in a ravine (yes, I'm assuming his gender since he didn't bother to tell me his pronouns before I hurled him off the cliff...  ). I'd say if you like games like the Witcher or Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim, you should like BG3 (unless you don't like the top-down POV rather than first-person).

I have a few issues with the game but they're related to things like inventory management or the skill roll UI; nothing to do with identity politics or anything of that nature. Granted, I'm not that far into the game, so my opinion might change.

Quote from: Reckall on August 11, 2023, 07:56:19 AM
Anyway, just to clear the situation a bit, the intro cinematic shows what BG3 is about. I.e. not bear porn.

Spelljammer + Planescape + Alien (!) + What a Dragon Strike Force can be when they are serious - all wrapped in sheer D&D. BG3 is currently the ninth game with most concurrent gamers on Steam ever - all looking for bear porn, I guess...

Evidently lotsa people need to fess up about getting this game as wank material. 

Quote from: Kanyenya on August 11, 2023, 03:40:41 PM
Yeah, I have to say things like the bear f**king or the romantic furry brunch initially concerned me about what the game would be like, but outside of a couple minor things in character creation (which were nothing to get riled up about), I haven't run into anything remotely woke in gameplay. It's been playing like a good old-fashioned computer RPG. I was completely sold when it allowed me to pick up a goblin and throw him to his death in a ravine (yes, I'm assuming his gender since he didn't bother to tell me his pronouns before I hurled him off the cliff...  ). I'd say if you like games like the Witcher or Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim, you should like BG3 (unless you don't like the top-down POV rather than first-person).

I have a few issues with the game but they're related to things like inventory management or the skill roll UI; nothing to do with identity politics or anything of that nature. Granted, I'm not that far into the game, so my opinion might change.

Yeah, from people's reaction here, and a couple of videos I initially thought that the woke had taken over. But when I actually started to go through the videos and looked beyond the anti-woke hysteria, I started to realize that outside a few odd choices (like framing sex as a "body type", and giving everyone dick or pussy options, regardless of their actual sex body type) there were few actual woke elements and far more customization options than people were implying.

Quote from: VisionStorm on August 11, 2023, 08:26:13 PM
Yeah, from people's reaction here, and a couple of videos I initially thought that the woke had taken over. But when I actually started to go through the videos and looked beyond the anti-woke hysteria, I started to realize that outside a few odd choices (like framing sex as a "body type", and giving everyone dick or pussy options, regardless of their actual sex body type) there were few actual woke elements and far more customization options than people were implying.

In a world with casual polymorphic magic I have zero problem with that the same way I have no problem with it in Cyberpunk 2077.

When going from him to her and back again involves nothing more than a walk down to the local body sculpting clinic see Merlin the Dick Wizard, gender classification would get a bit weird.

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 13, 2023, 04:04:59 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on August 11, 2023, 08:26:13 PM
Yeah, from people's reaction here, and a couple of videos I initially thought that the woke had taken over. But when I actually started to go through the videos and looked beyond the anti-woke hysteria, I started to realize that outside a few odd choices (like framing sex as a "body type", and giving everyone dick or pussy options, regardless of their actual sex body type) there were few actual woke elements and far more customization options than people were implying.

In a world with casual polymorphic magic I have zero problem with that the same way I have no problem with it in Cyberpunk 2077.

When going from him to her and back again involves nothing more than a walk down to the local body sculpting clinic see Merlin the Dick Wizard, gender classification would get a bit weird.

Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity has been a thing since early D&D, but sex swapping options can only be a thing because the woke have taken over, and have NO place in D&D. You filthy Degenerate!™

Quote from: VisionStorm on August 13, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity has been a thing since early D&D, but sex swapping options can only be a thing because the woke have taken over, and have NO place in D&D. You filthy Degenerate!™

I once actually ran a game where one of the PC's was outright questing for that object...

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Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity has been a thing since early D&D, but sex swapping options can only be a thing because the woke have taken over, and have NO place in D&D. You filthy Degenerate!™
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The girdle was a cursed item, much like the woketards are a curse on humanity.  It was always either a joke or a malady to be cured, not celebrated.

What's more, the freak-fetish brigade does not want to be 'cured' by being transformed into their idealized self. They want to revel in their 'neither fish nor fowl nor good red meat' existence.

After all, it's so much easier to get attention when you're a guy in a dress masquerading poorly as a woman rather than a woman who jokes about how 'some said it was a curse, but it was a blessing to me' and is well adjusted, married, and has three kids.

Quote from: JRR on August 14, 2023, 12:14:07 PM
The girdle was a cursed item, much like the woketards are a curse on humanity.  It was always either a joke or a malady to be cured, not celebrated.

One man's curse is another man's blessing.

And don't make broad sweeping aspersions that can cut both ways.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 14, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
What's more, the freak-fetish brigade does not want to be 'cured' by being transformed into their idealized self. They want to revel in their 'neither fish nor fowl nor good red meat' existence.

That's ultimately what differentiates real transsexuals and the the posers lunatics who are running their lives.

There's a reason that all too often the people who loathe SJWs the most are the people they're claiming to 'represent'.

QuoteAfter all, it's so much easier to get attention when you're a guy in a dress masquerading poorly as a woman rather than a woman who jokes about how 'some said it was a curse, but it was a blessing to me' and is well adjusted, married, and has three kids.

Sadly yes.

Quote from: JRR on August 14, 2023, 12:14:07 PM

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Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity has been a thing since early D&D, but sex swapping options can only be a thing because the woke have taken over, and have NO place in D&D. You filthy Degenerate!™

The girdle was a cursed item, much like the woketards are a curse on humanity.  It was always either a joke or a malady to be cured, not celebrated.

Polymorphic magic capable of sex changes has still existed in D&D since the onset, right?