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In June, 2k Games released Duke Nukem Forever.

In July, George R.R. Martin finally published A Dance With Dragons.

Since it seems to be the season for projects trapped in the quagmire of Valve time, I figured it was time to release one more: Legends & Labyrinths has, at long last, arrived and is now available for sale through an 8-Bit Funding project (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207).

WHAT IS LEGENDS & LABYRINTHS?

For those of you unfamiliar with Legends & Labyrinths, it’s a fantasy RPG that was first announced in June 2008 and then got stuck in development hell for three years.

Legends & Labyrinths takes 3rd Edition and strips it down to its most basic components. It removes everything non-essential, leaving behind a simple, fast-and-loose, easy-to-use system.

Legends & Labyrinths is based on a simple belief: Not only is 3rd Edition the most popular gaming system on the plant, it’s also one of the best. Its designers created a small, elegant set of core mechanics, resulting in an extremely flexible system. They then used those core mechanics to implement a wide array of carefully researched and thoroughly playtested guidelines and supplementary rules. The result was possibly the most robust and detailed system ever created.

Legends & Labyrinths, on the other hand, was created with a simple methodology: If it’s not a core mechanic, it’s not in the game.

The result is a slick, tight, elegant system that doesn’t get bogged down in the details. Legends & Labyrinths jettisons the rules and guidelines which make 3rd Edition so robust, but it leaves behind the simply and flexible game which lies at the system’s core.

For experienced gamers, Legends & Labyrinths is a fast-and-easy game that jettisons the baggage of 3rd Edition. For new gamers, Legends & Labyrinths serves as the perfect introduction to roleplaying games — simple enough to learn in an afternoon, but also a complete game that can be played for years without ever needing another supplement or rulebook.

One of my playtesters recently explained the appeal of Legends & Labyrinths like this: “Plenty of games have tried to add stuff on TOP of 3rd Edition. But Legends & Labyrinths comes UNDER 3rd Edition.”

Have you ever thought that 3rd Edition was too complicated? Had too many details? Was too time-consuming to prep? Then Legends & Labyrinths is exactly the game you’ve been waiting for.

100% COMPATIBLE WITH 3rd EDITION

What really makes Legends & Labyrinths special is that it is 100% compatible with 3rd Edition.

What does that mean? It means that any stat block or mechanic usable in 3rd Edition can be used in Legends & Labyrinths without conversion. It also means that any character created in Legends & Labyrinths can be used in a 3rd Edition game without conversion.

Got a 3rd Edition adventure? It can be run in Legends & Labyrinths as-is. Got a book full of monsters? It can be used in Legends & Labyrinths. Got a supplement of new spells? They can be cast in Legends & Labyrinths.

You can also incorporate core mechanics from 3rd Edition into your Legends & Labyrinths games without any difficulty. For example, Legends & Labyrinths features a stripped-down combat system. But if you really like some or all of the detailed combat rules from 3rd Edition? Well, all you have to do is use ‘em. Legends & Labyrinths is 100% compatible with 3rd Edition.

On the other hand, what if you really like all the different character creation tools 3rd Edition gives you (allowing you to tweak your character just the way you like it), but you feel the complexity of the rest of the system chokes the life out of your roleplaying? Well, all you have to do is use the full character creation rules to create your PCs and then play them using Legends & Labyrinths. The game is 100% compatible with 3rd Edition.

In other words, you can think of Legends & Labyrinths as being the streamlined foundation of the game: It’s a complete game all by itself, but you can also add whatever additional functionality you want whenever you want (and however you want).

WHY 8-BIT FUNDING?

Legends & Labyrinths is being initially released through an 8-Bit Funding project. Basically, I think it’s a spiffy game. I’m willing to bet that you’ll think so too. And spiffy games, in my opinion, should also look spiffy.

I’m looking to raise enough capital through this funding project to pay top-of-the-line artists to provide top-of-the-line illustrations. I want to see wandering mercenaries marching through the purple dunes of the Arcano Deserts and twisted caverns of silver-veined stone filled with smoky torchlight. Imagine dragonriders racing between the half-shattered towers of the Bassanen Empire and elven detectives scouring the back alleys of the grotto megapoli.

Basically, I’m treating the 8-Bit Funding project as a preorder-with-perks program to raise the funds necessary to make the final rulebook as awesome as possible.

WHAT IS THE BLACK BOOK BETA?

The Black Book Beta rulebook is being released to fulfill two functions:

First, it will allow those sponsoring Legends & Labyrinths early access to the game while we wait for the artists to finish their commissions.

Second, it basically gives us a public beta testing period in which sponsors and their gaming groups will be able to give me a final round of feedback which can be incorporated into the rulebook.

The Black Book Beta rulebook is fully playable, but not complete. What does that mean? Basically, the Black Book Beta rulebook is missing:

(1) Spells
(2) Monsters
(3) Magic Items

These items are missing primarily because the layout of these sections of the rulebook will depend heavily on the art which we’ll be able to commission following the funding drive.

Don’t you need spells, monsters, and magic items to play the game? Yes. But, remember, Legends & Labyrinths is 100% compatible with 3rd Edition: Until the final rulebook is completed, you’ll be able to pull spells, monsters, and magic items from any online SRD (or your existing 3rd Edition rulebooks and supplements).

(The Black Book Beta rulebook will also include L&L’s super-simple monster creation system, so you can whip out playable stat blocks for any creature you can imagine in seconds.)

To be perfectly honest with all of you, given the long and painful development process for this project, I also felt very strongly that the game needed to be in a completed state before I offered it for any kind of sale. The Black Book Beta rulebook allows me to accomplish that while also working to ensure that the final version of the rulebook is the best it can be for you: Even if I keeled over from a heart attack tomorrow, Legends & Labyrinths is in a completed state. It has been written. It has been laid out. It even includes temporary, public domain art. About the only thing missing at this point are a few “page XXX” references that still need to be filled in.

I could, if I wanted to, simply publish the rulebook as it exists today and nobody would blink an eye at it. (Well, the lack of art in the bestiary would probably annoy.) But I’d rather make this final, extra effort to push it over the top. I hope you’ll agree with me and help to make that dream a reality.

If not, just wait a few months and the final version of the rulebook will be on sale.

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Legends & Labyrinths is being initially released as an 8-Bit Funding project (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207). Today I'm going to talk about the Funding Perks you can claim by sponsoring the project:

REGISTERED ADVENTURER ($5): You'll be listed as a Registered Adventurer and sponsor in the L&L rulebook. You'll also receive a PDF copy of the Black Book Beta rulebook which will be given to all sponsors as soon our goal is met.

BETA WARRIOR ($12): You'll be a Registered Adventurer (as above), but you'll also receive a PDF copy of the final, full-color rulebook when it's released.

LABYRINTH PROWLER ($30): As above, but you will also receive a signed, full-color, softcover copy of the rulebook when it's released.

LABYRINTH CONQUEROR ($35): As above, but you also get a limited edition, full-color poster commemorating the artwork you've helped to sponsor.

LABYRINTH EXEMPLAR ($50): One of the great things about the L&L rulebook will be the Sidebar Reference System (making it the easiest rulebook you'll ever use). The SRS sidebars include many examples, and as an Exemplar sponsor your character will be starring in one of them! You also gain all of the above perks. (Subject to approval of your character name.)

LORD OF THE LABYRINTH ($150): As per the Labyrinth Conqueror, but you'll be listed as a "Lord of the Labyrinth" among the sponsors. Plus you get an exclusive "LORD OF THE LABYRINTH" t-shirt. These t-shirts will only be available during this limited sponsorship period.

LEGEND IN YOUR OWN TIME ($450): As per Lord of the Labyrinth, plus your adventuring group will be immortalized in the Legends & Labyrinths rulebook: Provide us with a campaign journal describing your adventures and we'll commission an awesome piece of art ripped right from your gaming table. (Subject to approval of content.)

INTO THE LABYRINTH ($300): As per Lord of the Labyrinth, plus Justin will personally run a 4 hour adventure for you and your group online using Google+ video chat. This also includes PDF copies of the Black Book Beta and final rulebooks for up to 5 additional players in the group (for a total of 6 including the purchasing sponsor). And the entire group will be listed as an Adventuring Party among the sponsors. (Justin has final approval over scheduling of the session. He will run the adventure for more than 6 people and everyone playing will be listed in the adventuring party, but this sponsorship only includes PDF copies for 6 players.)

(TIP: Talk to your gaming group. For six people, this sponsorship splits into reasonable $50 chunks.)

LEGEND IN YOUR OWN TIME + INTO THE LABYRINTH ($700): As per Legend in Your Own Time, plus Justin will personally run a 4 hour adventure for you and your group online using Google+ video chat. (The commissioned illustration can be taken from this online game or from your home game.) This also includes PDF copies of the Black Book Beta and final rulebooks for up to 5 additional players in the group (for a total of 6 including the purchasing sponsor). And the entire group will be listed as an Adventuring Party among the sponsors. (Justin has final approval over scheduling of the session. He will run the adventure for more than 6 people and everyone playing will be listed in the adventuring party, but this sponsorship only includes PDF copies for 6 players.)

A LOCAL LABYRINTH ($1000): As per Lord of the Labyrinth, plus Justin will personally run a 4-hour gaming session for you in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. (Justin has final approval over scheduling of the session.)

A LABYRINTH ON THE ROAD ($1500): As per A Local Labyrinth, but Justin will run a 6-hour gaming session for you anywhere in the United States within 450 miles of Minneapolis/St. Paul. (That includes Chicago, Kansas City, Bismarck, Davenport, Milwaukee, and more.) (Justin has final approval over scheduling of the session. You must be able to provide a reasonable location for the playing of the session and the location must be within reasonable driving distance of an acceptable hotel. Winnipeg and other Canadian destinations within range may be doable. But you may need to wait until Justin gets his passport renewed.)

A LABYRINTH ANYWHERE (SOME RESTRICTIONS APPLY) ($3000): A per A Local Labyrinth, but Justin will run a 12-hour gaming session for you anywhere in the continental United States. (Justin has final approval over scheduling of the session. You must be able to provide a reasonable location for the playing of the session and the location must be within reasonable driving distance of an acceptable hotel. Justin also needs to be able to get to you, which means having an airport nearby that Justin can fly to at a reasonable ticket price.)

(If you don't live in the continental United States, we may still be able to make arrangements. Send me an e-mail and we can hash out details.)
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PDF Rulebook: $12

Softcover, Full-Color Rulebook + PDF: $30

Beyond that, I'm offering nifty perks for people who want to contribute more than that. But, for the most part, the larger contributions are there for people who want to help make this rulebook as awesome as possible.

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8-Bit Funding video at Youtube:

http://youtu.be/eN8ABulOGCA

Just for curiosity's sake, why not Kickstarter?  The only reason I'm asking is, I've uncovered a lot of projects I've liked just by going to Kickstarter and searching for RPG, but I've never even heard of 8bit funding.  KS seems to have more visibility with the potential funders of RPGs.

Quote from: CRKrueger;473634Just for curiosity's sake, why not Kickstarter?  The only reason I'm asking is, I've uncovered a lot of projects I've liked just by going to Kickstarter and searching for RPG, but I've never even heard of 8bit funding.  KS seems to have more visibility with the potential funders of RPGs.

I think Kickstarter already had George Strayton's game, now called The Secret Fire (BUT was called L&L) on their books. Two L&L's would've caused confusion. 8bit is better in one regard, it takes Paypal.

Wait, so you are selling an unfinished, incomplete game?

Quote from: CRKrueger;473634Just for curiosity's sake, why not Kickstarter?  The only reason I'm asking is, I've uncovered a lot of projects I've liked just by going to Kickstarter and searching for RPG, but I've never even heard of 8bit funding.  KS seems to have more visibility with the potential funders of RPGs.

Kickstarter rejected my project proposal in May. They don't tell you why they reject your projects. Sean's theory is plausible (and not something I'm going to publicly comment on at the moment, beyond saying that I'm aware of the attempt to register in January 2011 a trademark I've been using continuously and globally since June 2008).

I looked at several alternative funding sites. 8-Bit ended up making the most sense.

Quote from: misterguignol;473839Wait, so you are selling an unfinished, incomplete game?

No. The original post was pretty clear on this and I know that you're familiar with how these funding sites work.

Answering a few questions about Legends & Labyrinths. If you’ve got more questions about the game or funding project, post ‘em and I’ll answer them ASAP.

Q. WHY 8-BIT FUNDING?

At this time, I felt it was the best fit for the project.

Q. DO I NEED A PAYPAL ACCOUNT TO CONTRIBUTE?

No. Although 8-Bit Funding uses Paypal to fulfill payments, you can just use a credit card.

Q. WHEN DO I GET MY COPY OF THE BLACK BOOK BETA?

When the project reaches its funding deadline, 8-Bit Funding sends me a spreadsheet with the contact information for all donors. This will allow me to send and/or arrange all of your perks. However, after talking things over with 8-Bit Funding I’ve found something of a work-around. It’s a bit time-consuming for me, but it’ll give me a way to distribute the Black Book Beta rulebooks early.

On the 8-Bit Funding website, I can post updates to the project. This includes updates which are visible only to contributors. When the project hits $1500 (getting halfway to my goal), I will post an update with information on how current sponsors can claim their copy of the Black Book Beta. (I’m doing it this way so that I can fulfill them all at once, which will make things considerably easier on my end.)

Q. CAN I UPGRADE MY SPONSORSHIP LEVEL LATER?

8-Bit Funding’s infrastructure doesn’t support this. (There’s information on their website about why, but I don’t think it’s really important.) But, once again, there is a work-around.

If you want to upgrade your perk at a later date: When you make a contribution at 8-Bit Funding you have the option to contribute without requesting a perk. Select that option and pay the difference between your current perk and the perk you want. (For example, if you were a Beta Warrior at $12 and want to upgrade to a Labyrinth Exemplar at $50, you’d make a contribution of $38.) When I get the final report of contributors, I’ll see the un-perked contribution and be able to contact you to confirm your intentions.

You can follow a similar procedure if you want to purchase multiple iterations of the same perk. Select the perk you want but then simply multiply the contribution amount by the appropriate amount. (For example, if you want to purchase copies of the rulebook for your whole gaming group — nudge, nudge, hint, hint — you can select the $30 Labyrinth Prowler perk, but then enter $$120 as the contribution amount to get 4 copies of the rulebook.)

Q. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THE FINAL VERSION OF THE RULEBOOK TO BE PRINTED?

This depends pretty much entirely on how long it takes for the artists to complete their work. Based on previous projects, I would estimate roughly 3 months. Possibly slightly longer; possibly quicker.

My intention is to anticipate the end of the funding drive and begin contacting artists as soon as I know that I can afford them, which should speed things up on the back end. This is also another reason for the Black Book Beta rulebook: It’ll give you a fully playable version of the rules ASAP to tide you over until the final edition is completed.

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Quote from: Justin Alexander;473914No. The original post was pretty clear on this and I know that you're familiar with how these funding sites work.

QuoteThe Black Book Beta rulebook is fully playable, but not complete. What does that mean? Basically, the Black Book Beta rulebook is missing:

(1) Spells
(2) Monsters
(3) Magic Items

It looks an awful lot like you're asking money for crippleware.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;473915Answering a few questions about Legends & Labyrinths. If you've got more questions about the game or funding project, post 'em and I'll answer them ASAP.

Why should I choose L&L over the Secret Fire?

Which game is The Beginning of the End working on?

Quote from: misterguignol;473953It looks an awful lot like you're asking money for crippleware.

As I said in my original post: If you don't want early access to the Black Book Beta rulebook, then don't preorder the game. I promise not to send the gaming gestapo over to your house and force you to give me money before the final rulebook is released.

Quote from: FASERIP;473974Why should I choose L&L over the Secret Fire?

Which game is The Beginning of the End working on?

Beginning of the End has been doing editorial passes on my stuff. He also posts DMP promotional stuff at forums what I'm persona non grata.

I don't know much about The Secret Fire (having never seen it or played it). Nor, speaking frankly, am I likely to have an unbiased opinion of it. But from what I've read it has a very different goal from L&L.

Do you like BECMI but wish its mechanics were cleaned up? L&L might be the game for you.

Do you like 3rd Edition but get sick of the long prep times and complexity? L&L might be the game for you.

Do you like 4th Edition because of the easy encounter building, the flexibility of page 42, and the dynamic feel of combat where people get shoved around the battlefield? But do you wish you could have all that with classic pre-2008 gameplay? L&L might be the game for you.

Do you love 3rd Edition and are skeptical that you'll ever want to play another fantasy RPG? L&L isn't the game for you, but it does include some really great tools that can be easily incorporated into your advanced 3rd Edition games. And you may find it very useful (as I have) for introducing new players to 3rd Edition (since it gives you a game that's 100% compatible with 3rd Edition that's easier for new players to handle and can then be scaled up with all the bells and whistles at whatever pace they're comfortable with).

Some people have been waiting years for Legends & Labyrinths (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) to arrive. Now that it has, at long last, done so, I wanted to talk a little bit about the long road it's followed.

SIMPLY D20

The origins of the Legends & Labyrinths project actually go all the way back to 2003 when I began work on a project known as Simply D20. Simply D20 was a deconstruction of the 3rd Edition and Modern D20 rulesets into a basic, generic game system suitable for any genre. It stripped down the class list to a "generic core" of Expert, Fighter, Mystic, and Rogue. It would have included separate skill lists for Fantasy, Modern, Cyberpunk, and Space Opera settings. It would have included six "sample races" (Human, Dwarf, Elf, Saurian, Felines, and the Klingon-like Battaks). And so forth.

The project began running into development problems, however, because its design goals ended up conflicting with each other. I wanted:

1. A very small rulebook (50 pages).
2. A generic set of rules to handle any genre.
3. Compatibility with 3rd Edition

But these could not all be achieved at the same time. Primarily, the additional options required for a fully functional and generic ruleset made the small rulebook unattainable and maintaining compatibility with 3rd Edition an ongoing struggle.

The release of 3.5 killed the Simply D20 project along with a lot of other projects I was working on and, ultimately, drove me out of the RPG freelance biz for a few years.

SIMPLY D20 FANTASY

In the spring of 2006, the project (sort of) rose from the ashes as Simply D20 Fantasy. Naturally revamped to use 3.5 as a base, the game's main selling point was now "100% compatible with 3rd Edition!". Its core design principles were now fundamentally identical to Legends & Labyrinths as it exists today.

Now, however, I let the project get out of control in a different way: I wanted to include mass combat, siege warfare, naval battles, chases, social duels, tourney, castle building, and realm management rules... all in 100 pages!

My problem was that I had been seduced by a false vision of the "good ol' days". I wanted a rulebook like my old BECMI Basic Set and so I said: "That was only a few dozen pages! I should be able to fit the full rule system into 50 pages or so and then use the rest of the space to include stripped down versions of all these other rulesets (just like I'm stripping down combat)!"

But, of course, the BECMI Basic Set only included rules for levels 1-3 — which allows it to conserve a lot of space when it comes to things like magic items and spell lists.

I'd later face a similar design problem in trying to recapture the simple glory of "roll attributes, pick a race, pick a class" as a method of character creation. It took me a ridiculous amount of time to realize that the reason I couldn't capture that simplicity of character design is because it had never actually existed. (Legends & Labyrinths now features a character creation process which is pretty comparable to OD&D and BECMI in terms of the time and complexity involved.)

Problems like these bogged the project down and I laid it aside for awhile.

FINDING A NAME

When I returned to it in late 2006, I decided to abandon the name "Simply D20″. Instead I started chewing my way through alliterative titles trying to find one that worked: The game almost became Wizards & Warriors, but a succession of people had used the name and it had most recently been registered by a CRPG company in 2000 and I couldn't determine whether the mark was still in use. Other possibilities included: Warriors & Warlocks, Mazes & Minotaurs, Magic & Monsters, Wyrms & Warriors, Spells & Swords, Swords & Sepulchers, Myths & Magic, Nymphs & Nightmares, Fable & Fantasy, Runes & Reliquaries, Chronicles & Catacombs, Sword & Saga, Princes & Perils, and Swords & Scrolls.

Some of these got rejected because they were already in use. Others because they sucked. Others because they didn't feel as if they represented the totality of the game. Eventually I settled on Legends & Labyrinths (which had only been used previously in the early '80s for a shareware Japanese CRPG that was long since defunct).

At this point, however, the project was still stuck in the same development trap it had been stuck in before. And I decided to add another bit of developmental stupidity by trying to go all-inclusive with my simple, stripped-down game. The race list now included: Humans, artathi, centaurs, dwarves, elves, gnomes, goliaths, half-elves, half-orcs, halflings, orcs, reptakkens, and siarrans. I was also trying to include not only every class from 3rd Edition, but also cavaliers, duelists, psions, psychic warriors, scouts, and spellsongs.

There was a method to this madness, but it wasn't negating the fact that the project was still fighting with itself. After struggling with the project in this state for several months, it was collapsing under its own weight. In early 2007, however, I changed direction and began stripping everything back down to the simple core it was always supposed to be.

LEGENDS & LABYRINTHS

But then 4th Edition was announced at GenCon in August 2007.

The announcement prompted me to put Legends & Labyrinths on hold. Remember that this same project had been killed by the 3.0 to 3.5 transition, and I felt it didn't make much sense to get burned again in the same way. At this point my plan was to wait for 4th Edition to be released and then release Legends & Labyrinths as a 4th Edition game.

This, of course, was predicated on the assumption that: (1) 4th Edition, like 3rd Edition before it, would be a continuation of the same game that had existed since 1974. (2) That WotC would continue supporting the OGL.

By the end of May 2008, it was clear that neither of these things were true. At this point I decided to put L&L back into development. By late June it looked like everything was falling into place: I had a draft that was 85% complete. I had lined up some beautiful cover art. I had put together a significant art budget that would allow me to purchase reprint rights for existing, high quality fantasy art.

Based on previous projects, I knew that I had roughly 2-3 weeks worth of work ahead of me. I also felt that, with 4th Edition coming, I needed to strike while the iron was hot and let people know that the game was coming. So I rebranded my existing OGL products, announced a July 15th release date, and got down to work.

EVERYTHING FALLS APART

What follows may sound like a litany of excuses. They're not meant as such. It's meant to be simply a description of what happened. I hope it can be taken in that sense.

In early July 2008, my computer crashed. This turned into a nightmare: I had all my data backed up, but I couldn't recover the machine. So I spent money like a drunken sailor to buy a new computer... only to discover that the versions of Quark and Acrobat I owned wouldn't run on Windows Vista. So then I tried to install Windows 2000 on the new computer, but necessary device drivers didn't exist for Windows 2000. So then I spent more money to get my old computer reconstituted. (If I recall correctly, it turned out that both the motherboard and the auxiliary hard drive controller had burned out.)

By this point, I had lost 10 days of work. After describing the situation, I rescheduled the release date for Legends & Labyrinths to July 31st and continued work.

... which is when I contracted Lyme disease. (I was apparently bit by an infected tick while working at an outdoor Shakespeare company.) The Lyme disease turned into its own little odyssey: The first doctor I saw prescribed 10 days of antibiotics. I took them... and then, a few days later, I started getting sick again. So I went back to the clinic. This time I saw a different doctor, who promptly opened a medical reference book, looked up Lyme disease, and read: "Prescribe 14-21 days of antibiotics." The first doctor had under-prescribed and the antibiotics hadn't actually wiped out the disease. Since I had been off the antibiotics for several days at this point, I needed to start the regime over from scratch. And since the remaining disease was probably more resistant to antibiotics (having survived the under-prescribed round of treatment), I'd need to take a full 21 says worth of pills. (I did do and fully recovered; but by the end of it my kidneys weren't too happy with me.)

By this point the deadline had slipped again. This time I simply announced that it would be "done when it's done". I also decided to take advantage of the extra time to retrench, rewrite some problematic sections of the book, and tweak the layout.

In late August 2008, however, it all fell apart.

To be continued... (Dun dun DAH!)

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Justin, are there any preview bits up anywhere that would give a feel for the direction you're going with?  "Third Ed stripped down and faster, yet still compatible" is the sort of statement that piques my interest, but it's also very easy for me to assume that L&L does 'exactly' what I want it to do, but that's all projection.

Quote from: VectorSigma;474389Justin, are there any preview bits up anywhere that would give a feel for the direction you're going with?  "Third Ed stripped down and faster, yet still compatible" is the sort of statement that piques my interest, but it's also very easy for me to assume that L&L does 'exactly' what I want it to do, but that's all projection.

I'll be posting more substantive previews over the course of the funding project. They'll be getting linked here and at the 8-Bit Funding page (http://8bitfunding.com/updates.php?p_id=207). You can also check out my website (The Alexandrian (http://www.thealexandrian.net)), which gets updated in a more timely fashion (since I can automate it).

THE LONG ROAD CONTINUES...

I'm continuing the story of the long road which Legends & Labyrinths has journeyed from its earliest inception, through its many delays, and finally to its release a few days ago.

We left off in July 2007: The original release date of July 15th had been delayed due to a severe computer crash and the revised date of July 31st was delayed when I contracted Lyme disease. Although I publicly announced that it would be "done when it's done", privately I was anticipating a release date in early September.

In late August 2007, however, it all fell apart.

The cover art I had arranged for the original cover of Legends & Labyrinths had been painted by a Russian artist. I had discovered his work on DeviantArt, gone to his website, sent an e-mail, negotiated a contract, and then sent payment according to his instructions. It had been a done deal for months.

... or so I thought.

Because apparently the Russian artist's website had been compromised by hackers. When I sent him an e-mail, that e-mail was intercepted by the hackers. It was with the hackers that I had negotiated a contract and it was to the hackers that I had sent payment.

The details of how this got resolved are... messy. The short version was this: I had no cover art and the budget I had established for art in general was gone.

It's at this point that the development of Legends & Labyrinths essentially went into hibernation. In October 2008 I released Spells of Light and Darkness (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/2223/roleplaying-games/spells-of-light-and-darkness) in a silent attempt to raise money for L&L's art. But it didn't sell well enough. (I was also attempting to save money from my personal finances, but during this time I was first buying a house and, after that, getting married.)

THE 2010 REVISION

In February 2009, I ran my first session of the 1974 ruleset. It was supposed to be a one-shot (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/2603/roleplaying-games/reactions-to-odd), but the game proved so successful that my players asked to play it again. And then again. And again. And again.

Over the course of that year, I rediscovered the open gaming table (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/1223/roleplaying-games/opening-your-game-table) and my old school campaign expanded to include 20+ players and dozens of PCs. At some point in the near future I'm likely to discuss in more detail how these old school sessions influenced the design of Legends & Labyrinths, but for now let it suffice to say that they did: Over the course of 2010, I was slowly revising and reworking the L&L manuscript and material from L&L was being playtested at my old school tables.

By late 2010, several freelance editing projects were meeting with particular success and with major personal expenses now behind me I was able to start putting some serious money towards an art budget. By early 2011, I was ready to bring Legends & Labyrinths out of hibernation..

2011: THE FINAL LEG

Unfortunately, the long odyssey of Legends & Labyrinths was not yet complete. Just a few days before I was scheduled to start contacting artists, I was notified of a major legal impediment that someone was attempting to create which would threaten not only the release of the game, but all of the game supplements I've published and kept in print since 2007.

I am not yet at liberty to go into much detail regarding this matter (although it probably wouldn't take much ingenuity to figure it out), but I was basically forced to take my newly re-established art budget and dump it into legal fees.

At this point I was near despair. Even with the legal issue resolved, I was right back at square zero as far as getting the book into print was concerned.

During 2010 I had considered the possibility of using Kickstarter to raise the art budget. But I hit the impediment that the book had already been vaporware for 2 years: Could I really expect people to put money towards a project that was already so late? Not really.

But now, in early 2011, I had the idea of creating the Black Book Beta rulebook: It would let me put something out there and say with authority, "No, really. This thing does exist. It's real."

So I spent the next 2-3 months revisiting the entire manuscript. In June 2011, I transitioned to layout (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/7218/site-news/thought-of-the-day-legacy-systems). The layout took much longer than I anticipated: Partly because I was learning Adobe InDesign (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004TH7IH8/digitalcomics), partly because I had forgotten how time-consuming the SRS system is, and partly because those delays ended up carrying the whole thing into the middle of a major theatrical project.

But, at long last, it was done!

... and then Kickstarter rejected my project proposal.

So I swapped over to 8-Bit Funding, created the Legends & Labyrinths project (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) (which is actually cooler than the Kickstarter project would have been), and then waited several days for it to be approved.

Which brings us to today.

FINAL THOUGHTS

There's a large part of me that wished Legends & Labyrinths had been properly released way back in July 2008.

But, on the other hand, I honestly think it will have been worth the wait. I also think Legends & Labyrinths is a much better game because of the extra development it has received in the interim.

On the gripping hand, however, I'm glad to have this monkey off my back at long last. Not only because I'm excited to see what you'll do with the game now that it's in your hands, but also because it will free me up to pursue other RPG projects that have been long dormant while I've struggled with the project that would (seemingly) never end.

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Quote from: Justin Alexander;474705On the gripping hand

I see what you did there. :D

Quote from: The Butcher;474712I see what you did there. :D

I was wondering if anyone would. ;)

I'm usually not one to use geek slang, but for some reason I just really grokked that one when I read the book (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/194/reviews/what-im-reading-17-the-mote-in-gods-eye).

Quote from: Justin Alexander;474780I'm usually not one to use geek slang, but for some reason I just really grokked that one when I read the book (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/194/reviews/what-im-reading-17-the-mote-in-gods-eye).

Me neither, but it is a fairly handy idiom. ;)

100% COMPATIBILITY...

Legends & Labyrinths (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) features 100% compatibility with the advanced version of the 3rd Edition rules. This means that any stat block or mechanic usable in 3rd Edition can be used in Legends & Labyrinths without conversion.

USING ADVANCED RULES IN LEGENDS & LABYRINTHS

Perhaps the most important question is the degree to which the vast supplement library of 3rd Edition can be used in your Legends & Labyrinths game.

Spells: Although the grimoire entries for advanced spells include extra information used by the more complicated rules, these spells can be used in Legends & Labyrinth without conversion. Simply ignore the extraneous information.

Monsters and NPCs: There are two ways to use monsters and NPCs. First, as with spells, you can use their stat blocks without conversion by simply ignoring the extraneous information they contain.

Alternatively, the Legends & Labyrinths rules allow for very quick conversion. For example, the stat block for a fighter in Legends & Labyrinths requires only level, hit point total, ability scores, and equipment. So if you see an 8th-level fighter in an advanced supplement, you can either use the full stat block provides or you can just pull the pertinent information (hit points, ability scores, equipment) and run the NPC as an 8th-level L&L fighter. (This also allows for quick conversion of classes not included in L&L: If you see a samurai, ranger, or witch, for example, and their stat blocks don't include enough information to run them as-is, it's a simple matter to convert them on-the-fly to an appropriate L&L class.)

Monsters can be handled in a similar fashion. If you don't want to use the advanced stat block provided for a monster, you can either do a complete conversion (recreating the monster from scratch using the Monster Creation rules) or you can easily do a partial conversion (using the appropriate core stats for a monster of the given CR, but using the powers listed in the monster's advanced stat block).

Running Adventures: As detailed above, all of the spells, monsters, and NPCs in adventure can be run without conversion. The same holds true for traps, skill DCs, and treasure. You can pick up any adventure designed for the advanced 3rd Edition rules and run it seamlessly in Legends & Labyrinths.

Supplementing the Rules: Because Legends & Labyrinths is 100% compatible with the advanced rules, you can incorporate any core mechanic from the advanced rules into your Legends & Labyrinths game on an ad hoc basis.

For example, Legends & Labyrinths features a stripped-down combat system. But what if you really like the detailed combat mechanics of the advanced rules? Well, all you have to do is use them. Similarly, if you really like all the character creation tools the advanced rules give you (allowing you to tweak your character just the way you like), you can create your PCs using the advanced rules and then simply play them using the Legends & Labyrinths rules.

Legends & Labyrinths functions as the streamlined foundation of the game: Advanced rules can be added to it in whatever combination you desire.

Creating New Classes: You can use the advanced character creation rules to create new classes for Legends & Labyrinths. Simply select an advanced character class and make appropriate selections for its feats and special abilities. Do not select a 1st level feat.

USING LEGENDS & LABYRINTHS WITH THE ADVANCED RULES

Since you can easily add any or all of the advanced rules into your Legends & Labyrinths campaign, it follows that you can also take rules from Legends & Labyrinths and plug them into a campaign run with the advanced rules.

Transferring Characters: PCs created in Legends & Labyrinths can be transferred to the advanced rules at any time. Simply select a single 1st level feat for the character. (All characters in Legends & Labyrinth are assumed to gain the benefits of the Leadership feats in place of their 1st level feat.)

Fast NPC Creation: Because the classes in Legends & Labyrinths are pre-built, creating an NPC is as simple as picking ability scores, race, class, level, and equipment. This makes it much easier to prepare NPCs or even create them on-the-fly during a session. And since the resulting stat blocks are 100% compatible with the advanced rules, they can be used seamlessly in a campaign using the advanced rules.

Hazards, Traps, and Monsters: Hazards, traps, and monsters created in Legends & Labyrinth can be used in an advanced campaign. As with NPC creation, these streamlined systems allow for rapid, on-the-fly improvisation during a game session.

Stunt System: The Legends & Labyrinths stunt system gives a unified mechanic for adjudicating ingenuity. It can be seamlessly integrated into a campaign using the advanced rules.

Other Original Elements: Legends & Labyrinths also includes rules for minions and potentates, a Fly skill, social ranks, training rules for advancing characters, and other innovations. Because the game is 100% compatible, all of these original elements can be easily used in the advanced game.

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SIDEBAR REFERENCE SYSTEM (SRS)

Legends & Labyrinths (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) will be using the Sidebar Reference System originally developed for Dream Machine Production's line of Rule Supplements (http://www.thealexandrian.net/dreammachine/roleplaying/rule-supplements.html). Using this format, rules are presented exactly when and where you need them.

For example, consider the description of the entangle spell from the advanced version of the 3rd Edition rules:

      Grasses, weeds, bushes, and even trees wrap, twist, and entwine about creatures in the area or those that enter the area, holding them fast and causing them to become entangled. The creature can break free and move half its normal speed by using a full-round action to make a DC 20 Strength check or a DC 20 Escape Artist check. A creature that succeeds on a Reflex save is not entangled but can still move at only half speed through the area. Each round on your turn, the plants once again attempt to entangle all creatures that have avoided or escaped entanglement.

There is key information missing from this spell description which will leave players flipping through their rulebooks: What are the effects of being "entangled"? How do you make a Strength check or an Escape Artist check? One could add this information to the description, of course:

      Grasses, weeds, bushes, and even trees wrap, twist, and entwine about creatures in the area or those that enter the area, holding them fast and causing them to become entangled (they move at half speed, cannot run or charge, suffer a -2 penalty on attack rolls, a -4 penalty on Dexterity checks, and casting a spell requires a Concentration check). The creature can break free and move half its normal speed by using a full-round action to make a Strength check (1d20 + Strength modifier vs. DC 20) or an Escape Artist check (1d20 + Escape Artist modifer vs. DC 20). A creature that succeeds on a Reflex save is not entangled but can still move at only half speed through the area. Each round on your turn, the plants once again attempt to entangle all creatures that have avoided or escaped entanglement.

But this only makes the spell description even more difficult to parse and adjudicate.

Using the SRS system, on the other hand, we can simplify the presentation of this spell so that it looks something like this:

      Grasses, weeds, bushes, and even trees wrap, twist, and entwine about creatures in the area or those that enter the area. The area is treated as difficult terrain and creatures that fail their Reflex saves are stuck and entangled. A creature can break free by making a Strength check (DC 20) or Escape Artist check (DC 20) as a full action. Each round on your turn, the plants once again attempt to entangle all creatures that have avoided or escaped entanglement.

In the sidebar, the red-highlighted keywords are given references like this:

      difficult terrain, page 52: Movement through difficult terrain is made at half speed.

stuck, page 58: Cannot move away from the object or location.

entangled, page 56: Move at half speed, cannot run or charge, -2 on attacks, -4 to Dex, casting spells requires Concentration check (DC 15 + spell's level).

Strength check, page 65: 1d20 + Strength modifier vs. DC

Escape Artist check, page 43: 1d20 + Escape Artist modifier vs. DC

The SRS puts all the information you need right at you fingertips. And, if you need more details, it gives you a page reference so that you can quickly find the full citation. Some of this information you may already be familiar with as a player, but it's great for beginning players. (And I can't be the only guy who, even after years of playing a game, will still need to double-check a reference.)

But the SRS also makes the text itself easier to parse. Partly because it removes all extraneous detail to the sidebar, but also because the references almost unintentionally provide a mechanism for quick comprehension. Look at the words highlighted in the entangle spell again: Difficult terrain. Stuck and entangled. Strength check or Escape Artist check. That tells you 90% of what you need to know about the spell at first glance, right?

More than that, the SRS both rewards system mastery and simulates system mastery.

For one who has mastered the system, for example, the term "difficult terrain" is a very quick, clear, and compact way of saying "characters can only move at half speed through the area". Because the SRS  lets us just put the keyword in the text (with the full reference pushed to the sidebar), system mastery is rewarded by streamlining the main text. A system master can see the keyword "difficult terrain" and immediately understand the effect of the spell without wading their way through additional verbiage.

But the system also simulates system mastery. The system master sees the keyword "difficult terrain" and immediately knows what it means. With the SRS, however, the beginner can simulate that mastery by simply flicking their eye two inches to the left.

In many ways, the SRS is also teaching system mastery. Over time, the player will probably find themselves relying on it less and less. But when you need it, it will prove itself an invaluable time saver every single time.

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FYI, there is a thread on RPGNet (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?589639-Legends-amp-Labyrinths-anyone-know-more-about-this) asking about the game.

8 REASONS TO BUY LEGENDS & LABYRINTHS (EVEN IF YOU NEVER PLAY IT)

1. INTRODUCING NEW PLAYERS

Legends & Labyrinths (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) is an ideal way to introduce new players to your existing 3rd Edition game: It gives them a simplified set of rules that are easier to learn and use. This is particularly true of character creation, which has been boiled back down to the classic trio (roll attributes, pick race and class, select equipment).

And because Legends & Labyrinths is 100% compatible with the advanced rules, you can just gradually add complexity until they've learned all the bells and whistle of your full 3rd Edition campaign.

2. MINIONS AND POTENTATES

These fast, easy templates can be applied to any 3rd Edition monster to create a horde of mooks or a powerful solo encounter. Actually, describing these as templates is probably misleading: Templates have traditionally involved a lot of fiddling math, but creating a minion or potentate is more like flipping a switch. Blink and you're done!

3. ENCOUNTER BUDGETS

Ever get tired of trying to figure out what EL you're dealing with when you've got an encounter featuring five CR 8 creatures, a CR 9 creature, a pair of CR 10 creatures, and a CR 14 boss just to round things out? Legends & Labyrinths includes a super-simple encounter budget system that makes prepping complex encounters a breeze.

4. FAST-AND-EASY NPC STATS

Remember the days when you could basically create a full-fledged NPC by just saying "he's a level 9 fighter"? Legends & Labyrinths makes that a reality for your 3rd Edition gaming, stripping NPC creation back to the classic trio: Roll ability scores, pick race and class, select equipment.

5. TRAINING RULES

On-the-job training is great, but sometimes you just want a nice little training montage that ends with your character dancing on the stairs in front of the Cosmopolitan Museum for Magical Curiosities with their arms flung high in the air. You can do that with Legends & Labyrinths.

6. THE STUNT SYSTEM

Legends & Labyrinths simplifies the 3rd Edition combat system down to a lean, mean, fighting machine... And then makes it more dynamic than ever with a super-simple, super-flexible stunt system. Shove your enemies around, help your friends, and just generally do awesome stuff on the field of battle.

7. HAZARDS AND TRAPS

3rd Edition may have traps, but it doesn't have Legends & Labyrinths' slick hazard and trap creation system. This thing is so streamlined that you can create new hazards on the fly. The players want to drop a chandelier on your doppelganger? Your ogre wants to chop through the balcony's supports and make it collapse? Bam. Legends & Labyrinths has you covered.

8. MONSTER CREATION RULES

Are you tired of turgidly building monster stat blocks instead of whipping them up? Creating slavering monstrosities doesn't have to be an exercise in advanced calculus. The monster creation system in Legends & Labyrinths is going to cure all your woes. Combined with the encounter budgets and hazard creation system, creating complex, dynamic, and flexible encounters has never been this easy.

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Quote from: Melan;475337FYI, there is a thread on RPGNet (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?589639-Legends-amp-Labyrinths-anyone-know-more-about-this) asking about the game.

Matrix Sorcica: "Sounds interesting enough, but the details on the blog is few."

Matrix Sorcica: "Yeah, but I'm too lazy to read backwards for many a blog post."

ಠ_ಠ

:)

Thanks for the pointer. Wish I could post over there to answer questions and stuff. Ah well. Their loss. Point 'em this way if they get quizzical.

The earliest design goal for Legends & Labyrinths (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) was to reveal the slick, tight, elegant system at the heart of 3rd Edition.

Like most RPGs, I've found that the secret to mastering 3rd Edition lies in finding the core principles on which the system is built — the essential mechanics from which everything else is built. And some of the first material ever developed for the game (even before it was a game) was written for online messageboards where I was attempting to share this mastery by demonstrating the simple, flexible core of the game in concrete terms.

In other words, Legends & Labyrinths was born out of a simple methodology: If it's not a core mechanic, it's not in the game.

This methodology naturally led me to re-examine character creation. Although 3rd Edition had created a system which made it possible to customize your character in myriad ways, if I wanted to design a game that was specifically friendly to new players then I knew it was important for Legends & Labyrinths to feature a streamlined character creation system. (This is something I'll talk about more in the future, but it's a design goal which only grew in importance once I started running an open table.)

After many tribulations and the pursuit of more than a few false ideals, I eventually brought the classic trio of character creation to Legends & Labyrinths: (1) Roll ability scores. (2) Pick class and race. (3) Buy equipment.

Character creation, however, led me inexorably to monster creation. Just as the designers of 3rd Edition had given players unprecedented control over their characters, they also gave DMs an unprecedented suite of tools and rules for creating and modifying monsters. It's an impressive and powerful system, but it can also be overwhelming and time-consuming.

My initial impulse, as with character creation, was to simply roll back the clock: Strip out all of the advanced guidelines 3rd Edition offers for monster creation, include a bestiary of a few hundred nasty creatures, and then just leave it up to the DM to eyeball whatever stats looked appropriate when creating new beasties. That's basically the way it was handled back in my original Basic Set, after all.

After some initial playtesting, however, it became clear that some sort of system for monster creation was necessary. This system went through several iterations and design cycles (being completely scrapped and restarting from scratch on at least two occasions). The system as it exists today, however,  is heavily influenced from my experiences running the 1974 ruleset. What particularly struck me was that by simply setting a monster's HD you immediately knew everything you needed to know about the monster's stats. All you had to do was toss on a unique power or two and — blammo! — you had a monster. It was a process that took seconds, making it easy to spontaneously improvise entirely new creatures (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/3869/roleplaying-games/ash-wraiths) right at the game table without missing a beat.

It was out of this revelation that the Challenge Rating Table was born. (You can find it on page 123 of the Black Book Beta rulebook.) This table lies at the heart of the monster creation system in Legends & Labyrinths, and it led directly to the creation of what I came to think of as the "Three Pillars" of the game.

THE THREE PILLARS

The Three Pillars of Legends & Labyrinth are the monster creation system, the hazard/trap creation system, and the stunt system.

Let's start with the monster creation system. Creating a monster in Legends & Labyrinths is a four step process:

   1. Pick a challenge rating.
   2. Select powers.
   3. Assign ability scores.
   4. Pick skills.

The CR of the creature determines is hit dice, armor class, attack bonus, attack damage, save bonus, the save DC for its special abilities, and the number of power ranks it receives. Powers are purchased using the monster's power ranks, but the intention is that you pick a handful of significant powers and then quickly dump the rest into generic adjustments.

It should be noted that ability scores don't modify any of the core stats determined by the monster's CR. They only become relevant for ability score checks and skill checks. Nor are there any particular rules for picking the skills a monster gets: It's assumed that the DM will exercise their best judgment in what skills a monster should possess.

(Playtest Tip: You want a copy of the Challenge Ratings Table on your DM screen. Just like the old "To Hit" tables, the CR table lets you pick a monster's CR and then have all of its stats at your fingertips.)

When this simple, streamlined system finally clicked into place it was a major revelation. And I realized that its basic structure could be used to solve the problem I was having with traps. Here we come to the Second Pillar, in which hazards and traps are designed in a four step process:

   1. Pick a challenge rating.
   2. Define area/targets.
   3. Define effect.
   4. Define defense.

(For traps you also need to define a trigger.)

As the monster creation system is based in the Challenge Ratings Table, the hazard/trap creation system is based around the Hazards table. This table is one-half old school and one-half 4th Edition's page 42. It contains general check DCs, trained check DCs, save DCs, attack bonuses, attack damage, repeating damage, and one-shot damage for every challenge rating.

Finally, we have the stunt system. The Legends & Labyrinths stunt system is a flexible method for allowing characters to perform unusual maneuvers during combat. A stunt can allow a character to apply a bonus to another character (or themselves), apply a penalty to another character, boost their speed or the speed of an ally, force opponents to move, or apply a variety of conditions to opponents. Resolving a stunt is a three step process:

   1. Define the effect of the stunt (which determines the DC).
   2. Perform the stunt by making the appropriate action check (usually a skill check).
   3. If successful, the target of the stunt may attempt a stunt save to negate its effect.

The DC of the stunt save is determined by the level or CR of the combatant performing the stunt, as shown on the Stunt Difficulty Class table.

USING THE THREE PILLARS

I started thinking of these systems — monster creation, hazard/trap creation, stunt creation — as the Three Pillars when I realized that the Challenge Ratings Table, the Hazards table, and the Stunt Difficulty Class table were all fundamentally joined. Not only do these tables share elements all cross-referenced by challenge rating (save DCs, attack bonuses, etc.), at a very real level they collectively form a single meta-table which defines the spine of the 3rd Edition ruleset.

(In fact, I actually considered unifying them all into one table for awhile. But I realized that although it can be useful to think of them as a single meta-table, from a utility standpoint they're more effective as separate tables.)

What's a reasonable save DC for a 9th level character? What's a good target number for a skill check intended for a 15th level character? Whether you're running Legends & Labyrinths or any 3rd Edition game, the meta-table of the Three Pillars gives you the answer (which you can then, of course, tweak to your heart's content).

But more than that, I came to think of these systems as the Three Pillars because they form an important part of the foundation which makes up Legends & Labyrinths. One half of this game is "3rd Edition without the noise"; but the other half of the game is a suite of powerful new tools which can be used to revolutionize any 3rd Edition campaign.

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PREVIEW 1: EXAMPLE OF PLAY (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/7507/roleplaying-games/legends-labyrinths-example-of-play)

This should give you some idea of what the final look of the book will be. A couple of things to note: First, in this section of the rulebook I'm using the SRS to introduce concepts to new players. There's a slightly more informal, instructional quality to them. (You'll see what I mean.) The SRS references in the rest of the book are crisper and primarily serve as reference tools (as shown in the examples earlier this week).

Second, you'll probably notice a few dreaded "page XXX" references. For the moment, these are intentional. They're pointing to material that either (a) doesn't exist in the Black Book Beta or (b) will have a different page number in the final rulebook (pretty much anything in the Grimoire, Treasury, or Bestiary). By leaving these "XXX" references in the Black Book Beta instead of replacing them with temporary references, we're significantly reducing the chance of these references not getting properly updated for the final rulebook. (Finding "XXX" is easy; noticing a page reference which is now pointing to the wrong place is harder.) This is a conscious decision on my part to sacrifice some degree of quality in the Black Book Beta in order to make the final rulebook the best it can be.

If you spot any other errors or typos, though, you should totally light up the comments here or my inbox.

PREVIEW 2: CLASS PREVIEW - FIGHTER (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/7556/roleplaying-games/legends-labyrinths-class-preview-fighter)

There are six classes in Legends & Labyrinths: Barbarians, Clerics, Fighters, Rogues, Sorcerers, and Wizards.

Each class in Legends & Labyrinths receives an easy-to-reference two page spread. If you're a player, you can lay your rulebook out on the table in front of you and have everything you need to know about your character class right at your fingertips. Everything else you need to know about your character could fit on a notecard! (But it won't have to: We'll be previewing our innovative character sheet in a couple of days.)

In addition to the SRS, you might also notice that the class abilities have been organized in alphabetical order (for easy reference). There's also a thumb tab on the edge of the page indicating that you're in Chapter 5. (These are located throughout the book to make quick-referencing easy.)

As I mentioned in "The Long Road", there was a period of time in which Legends & Labyrinths was going to be positively over-flowing with classes: Barbarians, Bards, Cavaliers, Clerics, Duelists, Druids, Fighters, Monks, Paladins, Psions, Psychic Warriors, Rangers, Rogues, Scouts, Spellsongs, Sorcerers, and Wizards.

But that long list was bloating the game away from the simple, stream-lined rulebook I was hoping to produce. I whiplashed my way back to the 1975 Gang of 4: Cleric, Fighting-Man, Magic-User, Thief.

This shorter list eventually expanded into the Gang of 6 for a couple of reasons: First, I was deeply conflicted about whether to include the Sorcerer or the Wizard as my arcanist of choice. The Wizard, of course, provides the classic gameplay. On the other hand, I was very interested in Legends & Labyrinths providing a rulebook for new players and, in my experience, sorcerers are a better choice for newcomers.

Second, once I decided to include two arcanists, it made sense to "balance the scales" by providing two martial classes. Including the barbarian meant that I could focus both the barbarian and the fighter on distinct-yet-different styles of combat. Players could choose the style that suited their character best or use the multiclass rules to blend the two.

Finally, the Gang of 6 provided a nice balance for the six races I was including.

Six Races. Six Classes.

PREVIEW 3: CHAPTER 4 - RACES (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/7565/roleplaying-games/legends-labyrinths-race-preview)

Yup, that's the entirety of Chapter 5 there.

The artwork in this chapter is by Larry Elmore, used under license. His artwork opened the doors of fantasy roleplaying to me, and I can't think of a better way to capture the iconic images of the core races. (With that being said, I made a couple of "risky" choices in here and it'll be interesting to see how people respond to them.)

One semi-interesting thing of note is that, in writing this chapter, I very specifically did not want to give humans primacy by placing them at the top of the chapter. Instead, I wanted them to appear in their proper place in the alphabetical order. But when I got to the actual layout, I ended up with a space at the bottom of the first page that was too small to fit dwarves into. I initially planned to fill it with some generic artwork (with the intention of possibly replacing it with a "fantasy line-up" as a commissioned piece of art). But then, when I tried to place the entry for humans later in the chapter, I either ended up with a page filled with white space or crunching a whole bunch of races up into a space that was too tiny for them.

Eventually, it just made sense to use the humans to fill that white space on the first page and embrace a consistent approach of "1 race per page". It still leaves more white space in this chapter than anywhere else in the book, but sometimes you just have to embrace what fate is telling you.

As I mentioned in the class preview, I decided to go with a Gang of 6 character classes and then matched this with six character races: Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Half-Elves, Halflings, and Half-Orcs.

Here, too, I had seriously considered sticking with either the "classic three" (humans, dwarves, elves) or "classic four" (throwing halflings in there). But getting half-breeds into the mix, in my opinion, establishes an important "conceptual beachhead" in the pastiche fantasy-land at the heart of the game.

So... half-orcs to fill the role of "bruiser" and "outcast" that isn't well-covered by the other races? Or half-elves, like halflings, out of respect for their Tolkienesque roots?

Eventually, I decided that including both would (a) provide some nice variety within the general type and (b) balance the game evenly with six races and six classes.

I am aware that this means only gnomes are excluded among the core D20 races and that, therefore, I run the risk of being classed among the "gnome haters".

But that's a risk I'm just going to have to take.

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15-MINUTE CONVERSION TEST

Auroch wrote a reply to "Opening Your Game Table" (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/1223/roleplaying-games/opening-your-game-table) asking for advice on how to get started. This led me to touch briefly on the fact that L&L's monster creation system makes it super-easy to convert pre-3E material to L&L. (3E material, of course, can be used straight out of the box thanks to that 100% compatibility (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/7392/roleplaying-games/legends-labyrinths-100-compatibility) thing.)

How easy? Well, since I was talking about Caverns of Thracia, let's give it a whirl. I grabbed my copy of the module, flipped open my beta copy of Legends & Labyrinths to page 123, and set an egg timer for fifteen minutes. Starting from the top of the module, how many encounters could I convert?

AREA 4 – GIANT CENTIPEDES (CR ½): 5 hp (HD 1d8+1), AC 13, bite +1 (1d4 and poison), Save +3, Ability DC 11, Size Small, Climb 30 ft.
   Str 8, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 1, Wis 10, Cha 2
Skills: Climb +10, Hide +6, Spot +4
DR 5/piercing
Poison (Ex): Small Centipede Poison (1d2 Dex/1d2 Dex)

AREA 5 – LIZARDMEN (CR 2): hp 15 (HD 3d8+2), AC 17, club +4 (1d6+1), Save +5, Ability DC 13, Spd 40 ft.
   Str 16, Dex 12, Con 11, Int 11, Wis 8, Cha 9
Skills: Listen +5, Spot +5, Swim +9
Amphibious (Ex): Can breath both air and water.
Darkvision 60 ft.

AREA 6 – GNOLL (CR 2): hp 21 (HD 4d8+1), AC 15, morningstar +4 (1d6+1), Save +5, Ability DC 13.
   Str 15, Dex 11, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 10
Skills: Listen +7, Spot +7
Scent
Darkvision 60 ft.

AREA 7 – GNOLLS (CR 2): hp 21 (HD 4d8+1), AC 15, longbow +4 or battle axe +4 (1d6+1), Save +5, Ability DC 13.
   Str 15, Dex 11, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 10
Skills: Listen +7, Spot +7
Scent
Darkvision 60 ft.

AREA 9A – INCARNATION OF DEATH (CR 4): hp 30 (6d8+3), AC 17, touch +8 (energy drain), Save +7, Ability DC 15.
   Str 11, Dex 16, Con 10, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 17
Skills: Hide +12, Intimidate +12, Listen +11, Search +11, Sense Motive +11, Spot +11
Energy Drain 1 negative level and incarnation of death gains 5 temporary hp.
Invisibility Can be seen by any characters within 3 hp of death.
Despair Creatures who can see the incarnation of death suffer a -2 penalty on Will saving throws.

THOUGHTS

Five encounters in fifteen minutes. A little over three minutes per monster, including the time to type out full stat blocks. That should give you some indication of how easy it would be to whip up monsters on-the-fly during the game session, allowing you to easily keep up with rambunctious PCs and enabling spontaneous bursts of improvised creativity like the one which resulted in the creation of ash wraiths (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/3869/roleplaying-games/ash-wraiths) and lycanthropic ghouls (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/3397/roleplaying-games/lycanthropic-ghouls).

It also speeds up prep time in general. Even in my full-blown 3E Ptolus campaign (http://thealexandrian.net/in-the-shadow-of-the-spire), I've been transitioning to a mixture of advanced NPC stat blocks and L&L stat blocks. And over time I've been leaning more and more heavily on L&L stat blocks because they're so much quicker and easier to generate.

Once you get your hands on the Black Book Beta, I'd be interested in seeing what happens when you take this out for a spin.

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HAZARDOUS BUSINESS

Legends & Labyrinths (http://8bitfunding.com/project_details.php?p_id=207) includes a hazard creation system. It gives the DM a toolset for quickly designing treacherous obstacles, deadly environments, and breakneck challenges. Creating a hazard is a quick, four-step process:

   1. Pick a Challenge Rating
   2. Define Area/Targets
   3. Define Effect
   4. Define Defense

Basically, you define the specific scope of the hazard by setting its CR. Then you can refer to the Hazards table on page 86 of the rulebook — which includes General Check DCs, Trained Check DCs, Save DCs, Attack Bonuses, Attack Damage, Repeating Damage, and One-Shot Damage to mechanically define the specifics of the hazard.

PUTTING IT THROUGH ITS PACES

A couple days ago I did a 15 Minute Conversion Test (http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/7517/roleplaying-games/legends-labyrinths-closing-on-1500) to show off the speed and flexibility of the monster creation system by converting a half dozen encounters from the Caverns of Thracia. While performing the conversion test, I noticed this encounter key from area 1:

The air in the room stinks of bat guano and hanging from the ceiling are several hundred normal bats. The ceiling, which is 30′ high, is covered with them. The bats will be mildly irritated by torches but a Light spell will send them winging about through the air, severely agitated. The guano on the floor makes it slippery and will require a saving throw on a d20 of under the character's Dexterity +2 per turn spent running through the muck or per round spent fighting in it. Failure to make the throw indicates slipping and falling into the goo.

Let's say we wanted to model this slippery bat guano in Legends & Labyrinths. Like Jaquays you could just pluck some reasonable-sounding numbers out of the air, but you could also turn to the Hazards system for guidance. If you did, it would look something like this:

1. PICK A CHALLENGE RATING: The rulebook suggests, "In general, a hazard with a challenge rating equal to the average level of the party represents a danger that the party can routinely handle with little risk. (So if anybody plucked off the street could deal with it, the hazard is probably a CR 1. If it's something that requires a good deal of skill or luck to endure, it might be a CR 5 hazard. If it's something that only legendary heroes could expect to encounter and survive, on the other hand, you'll want to start looking at a challenge rating of 10 or more."

This seems like something most people should be expected to handle. Let's make this a CR 1 challenge.

2. DEFINE AREA/TARGETS: The bat guano covers the floor in areas 1, 2, and 3. It also covers the last 20′ of the stairs leading down to area 1.

3. DEFINE EFFECT: The bat guano will render a character prone. We'll check the Hazard Effects table on page 87 to see if the prone condition requires a minimum CR (it doesn't).

4. DEFINE DEFENSE: Quoting from the rulebook again, "Characters within the area affected by a hazard or targeted by a hazard generally get some defense against the hazard's effect. (...) Saving Throw: If a hazard does not need to make an attack roll, a character affected by the hazard is allowed to make a saving throw. Choose the type of saving throw which is most appropriate for the hazard's effect. (...) Action Check: For some hazards, a character may be able to make skill or ability checks in order to interact with the hazard or bypass it without suffering its effects."

So we've got a couple of options here. We could require a Reflex save from anyone moving through the area (in which case we'd look at the Hazards table and see that the Save DC for a CR 1 Hazard is DC 12). But I think it probably makes more sense to require anyone hustling, running, or fighting in the bat guano to make a Balance check. Looking at the Hazards table, we'll pull the General Check DC (used for "any action check which needs to be made by every character in the party"). A CR 1 hazard has a General Check DC 14.

And that's pretty much it. Our final hazard looks like this:

Bat Guano (CR 1): Covers the last 20′ of the stairs and areas 1, 2, and 3. Balance check (DC 14) or fall prone.

ADDING SOME BATS

But what about those bats that are swooping around?

The first question I'm going to ask is: How much of a pain-in-the-ass do I want those swarming bats to be? At the low end, we could say that they effectively dazzle characters in their midst (-1 penalty on attack rolls, Search checks, and Spot checks). At the high end, we could say that they're entangling characters (move at half speed, cannot run or charge, -2 penalty on attack rolls, -4 penalty to Dexterity, casting spells requires a Concentration check).

Checking the Hazards Effects table I see that there's no minimum CR for hazards that dazzle, but entangling hazards have a minimum CR 2.

Let's go ahead and make 'em a real pain in the ass. Some of these bats are just one step removed from being dire bats (they're related to their larger cousins in the caverns below) and until they get into the open air they're basically a solid wall of flapping terror.

Although this isn't a trap, we'll grab the concept of a trigger from the trap rules to simulate provoking the bats ("certain natural hazards may also possess some or all the characteristics of a trap). Then we'll set this as a CR 3 hazard requiring a Fortitude saving throw. We check the Hazards table for the CR 3 save DC and get:

Bat Swarm – Entangling (CR 3): Effects the stairs and areas 1, 2, and 3. Trigger (light spell or other strong light source). Fortitude save (DC 14) or entangled. Duration 1d4+2 rounds.

Another option would be have the bats actually physically batter those caught in their area. Using the rules for mixing CR effects, we could keep the DC 14 Fortitude save (a CR 3 effect) to avoid taking 1d6 damage (the repeating damage for a CR 1 hazard). Since these are the significant contributions to the hazard, you simply average the CR values to give you:

Bat Swarm – Battering (CR 2): Effects the stairs and areas 1, 2, and 3. Trigger (light spell or other strong light source). Fortitude save (DC 14) or 1d6 damage. Duration 1d4+2 rounds.

Alternatively you can combine multiple effects into a single hazard by simply combining CRs like any other encounter (using the rules on page 15):

Bat Swarm Totality (CR 4): Effects the stairs and areas 1, 2, and 3. Trigger (light spell or other strong light source). Fortitude save (DC 14) or 1d6 damage and entangled. Duration 1d4+2 rounds.

USING IT IN PLAY

Where the hazard systems really comes into its own, in my opinion, is during play. It provides you with general guidelines for appropriate action check DCs, saving throw DCs, and damage for characters of any given level.

That's useful all by itself. But it also gives you a simple structure for rapidly facilitating improvisation by you and your players.

For example, let's say the PCs want to weaken the support beams for a balcony and then lure a large monster onto the balcony so that it will collapse. Call for some appropriate action checks to prep the trap. Once its set-up you just need to set a CR and everything else will pretty much flow from that single decision point:

CR 7. Therefore, Balance check DC 22 for a PC to scamper across it without triggering the trap prematurely. When the unwitting monster hits it, it's 7d6 points of damage (CR 7 one-shot damage) with a Reflex save (DC 17) for half damage.

(Maybe you set the CR based on check result of the action check the PCs use to set the trap.)

You'll find some similar, non-improvised hazard creation tucked away in the Equipment chapter. For example, the description of wire includes:

Tripwire: A properly secured wire can serve as a CR 1 hazard. Characters can make a Spot check (DC 14 or opposed by the ambusher's Hide check) to spot the wire. If they fail, they must make a Reflex save (DC 12) or fall prone.

The system is just too simple and versatile not to use.

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Stunts vs. Combat Maneuvers

In large part, Legends & Labyrinths replaces the complicated variety of the 3rd Edition's combat maneuvers and special attacks with a streamlined stunt system. But how much tactical interest are we sacrificing with those combat maneuvers? And is the stunt system just replacing one form of complexity for another?

SIMPLE STUNTS

The process of resolving a stunt is simple:

   1. Define the effect of the stunt (which determines the DC).
   2. Perform the stunt by making the appropriate action check.
   3. If successful, the target of the stunt may attempt a stunt save to negate its effect.

What makes the stunt system simple is specifically that the DCs are hard-coded. It turns it into a substantive part of the combat system instead of the "beg the GM for a nice DC" negotiation that many stunt systems boil down to.

What makes the stunt system work is a divided workload: On the one hand, we use an action check to determine whether or not the character successfully leverages whatever skill/ability they're using to perform the stunt. (This encourages — but doesn't mandate — characters to perform stunts within their areas of expertise.) On the other hand, we allow the target to make a saving throw to negate the effect. (This prevents high-level characters from being just as easy to pratfall as a low-level character.) By dividing this workload, we avoid the problem similar systems have had in which the DC calculation become difficult-to-balance calculus: Add up all your stunt factors, then divide by the performer's HD before multiplying by the target's HD, then modify according to difficulty factors before blah blah blah...

STUNT VERSATILITY

But does the result offer the same tactical versatility as the detailed special attacks offered by 3rd Edition?

Well, let's talk about that.

(Note that the base DC for all stunts is DC 5.)

Aid Another: The stunt DC is +5 per +1 bonus. (A +2 bonus requires a DC 15 check instead of DC 10, but the mechanic is open-ended. The simplicity of +5 per +1 playtested much better than work-arounds which attempted to maintain the DC 10 = +2.)

Bull Rush: Forced movement +1 DC per 1 ft. So if you wanted to push someone 10 ft. over a cliff, it's a DC 20 stunt check.

Charge: We left basic charges in the game as an optional rule. (Surprise rounds are hamstrung without them.) But there are quite a few ways to use movement to apply a bonus to your attack roll using the stunt system.

Disarm: Forcing an opponent to drop an item is a DC 15 stunt.

Feint: There's not specifically a way to deny your opponent his Dex bonus to AC, but you can use a Bluff stunt to apply a penalty to his AC.

Grapple: L&L includes a simplified grapple system. Instead of being a complete departure from the rest of the combat rules, L&L's grapple rules just modify them using a single, simple mechanic that's easy to remember. In play it's surprisingly not that different from the advanced grapple rules of 3E, but you won't have to keep flipping the book open every time somebody tries to grab a monster.

Overrun: This one, I'll admit, is missing functionality. We briefly playtested including "helpless" in the stunt system, but it was badly busted. The closest you'll get is just using a forced movement stunt to shove them out of the way as you continue moving.

Trip: Prone is a +10 DC stunt.

So, from a tactical standpoint, we've found that the stunt system effectively replaces most of the existing combat maneuvers.

"Okay," you say. "That's all well and good. But all you've done is duplicate functionality the game already has using a slightly different system. Big deal."

But, of course, the stunt system can do much more than that. And you can actually do any of these actions using any action check (assuming you can explain how the action check will provide the desired result). For example, you can trip people by making a melee attack roll... but you could also shoot them in the leg (ranged attack roll) or aim a cone of cold spell to create a sheet of ice under their feet (Spellcraft check) or throw them down (grapple check) or force them to leap aside by threatening to run them down (Ride check) or yank their feet out from under them with a lasso (Use Rope check) or anything else you'd care to imagine.

So we basically hoover up all the existing functionality of the 3rd Edition maneuvers into a simple superstructure that's both (a) simpler than the functionality it's replacing and (b) capable of adding much more functionality to the game.

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