The Movie Thread Reloaded

[Wrath of God]

From Sci-Fi Villeneuve movies - the most interesting visually was Blade Runner because at least he had to mix his own dry style (still visible in Jared Leto sandstone brutalist HQ, or in Las Vegas, or even little bit in wet way in final fight) with preestabilished lore. So generally movie is quite diverse visually.

But Dune... nah.
Only moment he attempt to go weird are Harkonnens, and while it's cool from worldbuilding perspective is just as dumb as Lynch who tried to show Harkonnens and their servants look like deranged clones - but of course it's not true - Landsraad nobility is nation on their own, and they should not look like plebs from their planets. Harkonnens, Atrides, Corrinos should look more simmilar to each other than to non-nobles with Baron being maybe more eccentric.

[Omega]

Someone should compile a list of all of the movies with Amityville in the title and then review and rank all of them.  Not me though.  There are a lot of them and the great majority are complete shit.  So far, Amityville Hex is the worst one I have seen but there are many, many more of them.  I don't think I want to find one worse than that though.

I have actually never seen most of the Amityville movies other than one made for TV Amityville: The Evil Escapes that was completely stupid. Also missed the TV series and all the remake attempts.

So if you have not watched Evil Escapes, do your brain cells a favor and never watch it.

[Omega]

There are several of those YA series that would make for a better rpg setting than they did for a movie.  Maze Runner would probably make a better rpg setting that it did a movie series.

They used to make them into cartoons instead. I miss those old Saturday Morning adaptions. Bunnicula, Mouse on the Motorcycle, Dragons Blood, and many more.

[Omega]

Side note: the characters look funny, from the recruits in the base to the council members to Lucy's brother and cousin. It's as if as Sims game had come to life, and that the writers are Fallout gamers who imagine themselves as characters in the story that they're developing.

I think the problem is that they are either using some manner of CGI background, or there is some manner of filtering going on. I know in HD it looks REALLY off to me. I got that same effect watching the live action Aladdin movie in HD during my hospital stay.

[Ratman_tf]

Side note: the characters look funny, from the recruits in the base to the council members to Lucy's brother and cousin. It's as if as Sims game had come to life, and that the writers are Fallout gamers who imagine themselves as characters in the story that they're developing.

I think the problem is that they are either using some manner of CGI background, or there is some manner of filtering going on. I know in HD it looks REALLY off to me. I got that same effect watching the live action Aladdin movie in HD during my hospital stay.

IMO HD in general looks way "cleaner" than movies (and TV shows) made previously. Maybe it's a generational thing, where if you were used to non-HD, you really notice HD clarity, and not in a good way.

[DocJones]

Watched all of Fallout and liked it.
Liked all the Dunes too.
Weird how Paul Atrides is Lucy's father in Fallout.  ;-)

[ralfy]

I managed to finish the second part of Dune, and something like half of the content's banal, although I don't blame the cast and crew as it probably has to do with the material, which I think can only be delivered effectively piecemeal (like in a mini-series, which was done in the past), and to develop characters properly.

Also, it looks like the character of Paul has to be played both as a young man and as someone with more seriousness later, which means the actor in this case is too young. The actors in the 1980s movie and in the mini-series look like better matches.

The dialogue was also ordinary, but sounded more sophisticated with the Fremen and the older leader of the houses. Some scenes were also strangely delivered, like one where Paul talks to his mother softly, and then suddenly shouts, and then speaks softly once more. I don't know if it's meant to show that he has some sort of volatile personality, but it doesn't show.

Beyond the banality, I think the best scenes involved the early depiction of the ways of the Fremen, and probably Paul's speech. It's just that the first is distracting due to contradictions in their way of life (as if they live in a pre-industrial society but have access to advanced tech) and second peters out because the speech sounds ordinary contentwise.

[HappyDaze]

Watched all of Fallout and liked it.
Liked all the Dunes too.
Weird how Paul Atrides is Lucy's father in Fallout.  ;-)

I had a more recent crossover when I visualized Wonka riding atop giant gummi-worms with his bands of oompa-fremen jihadis.

[Wrath of God]

Also, it looks like the character of Paul has to be played both as a young man and as someone with more seriousness later, which means the actor in this case is too young. The actors in the 1980s movie and in the mini-series look like better matches.

Dunno about Miniseries, but Kyle looked way way way too old. Paul starts his story as 15 y.o. And twinkish one, not some HS jock. Kyle was 25 and looked at least 30, nothing as it should.

[ralfy]

Also, it looks like the character of Paul has to be played both as a young man and as someone with more seriousness later, which means the actor in this case is too young. The actors in the 1980s movie and in the mini-series look like better matches.

Dunno about Miniseries, but Kyle looked way way way too old. Paul starts his story as 15 y.o. And twinkish one, not some HS jock. Kyle was 25 and looked at least 30, nothing as it should.

They should probably stick to the written work, where the reader can imagine how a twinkish individual can become some sort of messianic leader among people whose way of life appear to resist that and even anything that behaves like some HS jock.

Or maybe the writer was basing the character on the actual past, with some kings and warlords in their teens and commanding large armies.

[Wrath of God]

Question is of course is to off to us because Chalamet did bad work, or because it's just to uncanny for our modern sensibilities.

[Omega]

IMO HD in general looks way "cleaner" than movies (and TV shows) made previously. Maybe it's a generational thing, where if you were used to non-HD, you really notice HD clarity, and not in a good way.

As noted with the live action Aladdin, for me the problem was watching it felt like I was looking at a movie set for some reason. Its not that it looks cleaner. It looks, like some old 90s movies where it feels like you are looking at a set with actors rather than a movie.

[Ratman_tf]

IMO HD in general looks way "cleaner" than movies (and TV shows) made previously. Maybe it's a generational thing, where if you were used to non-HD, you really notice HD clarity, and not in a good way.

As noted with the live action Aladdin, for me the problem was watching it felt like I was looking at a movie set for some reason. Its not that it looks cleaner. It looks, like some old 90s movies where it feels like you are looking at a set with actors rather than a movie.

But is that because the sets/costumes./etc are bad, or that you can see them more clearly and see that they're "real" things?

I'm struggling to put it into words. I think HD shows things so clearly that you have little space to suspend your disbelief. Even if a prop or costume is authentic and flawless, it's still more "real" now.

I think the low def TV and film allowed us to more easily believe that the things were were looking at weren't props.

[ralfy]

I think Chalamet is OK, and he certainly has the looks of a Paul. It's just that I don't think the way the dialogue is written does the character he's potraying justice. I get this feeling that Paul is like Joan of Arc when he's younger, and Lawrence of Arabia as he becomes part of the Fremen.

Usually, when something like this goes wrong, I assume that the problem lies with the writing, and if not that direction.

[GeekyBugle]

Also, it looks like the character of Paul has to be played both as a young man and as someone with more seriousness later, which means the actor in this case is too young. The actors in the 1980s movie and in the mini-series look like better matches.

Dunno about Miniseries, but Kyle looked way way way too old. Paul starts his story as 15 y.o. And twinkish one, not some HS jock. Kyle was 25 and looked at least 30, nothing as it should.

Weird since they have de-aging technology to make him look younger.