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Shrieking Banshee

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2020, 06:45:14 pm »
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"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" -- Winston Churchill, paraphrased, and paraphrasing someone else

Incidentally, I wasn't disagreeing in my last post, just making a new point. Though I'm more a fan of the Reign of Terror than monarchies.

Personally I don't think we ever really changed people. Im of the belief that the core of man has been about the same since we tied flint to sticks. Every generation thinks it knows the reason for all the worlds ills (its because the dumb dumb past fucked up and we are so much smarterere then those fools).
I think we have democracy because its more convenient for the times, not because of somekind of deep species change that really changed fundemental human nature.

If you make the hoop bigger, does that really show that you as a person got better at basketball if you score more often?

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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2020, 11:05:51 am »
Democracy is better because regular elections make it easier/more likely to remove a manifest fuckup from power.

Elections are also better because you can remove someone from power without having to kill all of their supporters first.

In other systems, the high threshold for removing a fuckup tends to create an overreaction, which in turn triggers overreactions from the other side. See the French Revolution. It gets messy.

Communism, on the other hand, seems to select for rule by sociopaths.

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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2020, 03:27:22 pm »
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Democracy is better because regular elections make it easier/more likely to remove a manifest fuckup from power.

Elections are also better because you can remove someone from power without having to kill all of their supporters first.

That is true, but that is what I mean when I hear that people argue that in a democracy the person you vote for is a figurehead. The people who really decide are the media aristocracy. You can remove the fuckup from office, but the people that really put him there get off scot free to try again.

Again I do prefer it over violent overturns, but the argument that the bucket is just being kicked down the line feels very legitimate.

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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2020, 04:06:40 pm »
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