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Author Topic: Dune film news. (bleargh)  (Read 2566 times)

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« on: April 14, 2020, 01:18:43 PM »
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/04/behold-dune-an-exclusive-look-at-timothee-chalamet-zendaya-oscar-isaac?fbclid=IwAR3vgiGyPlCyDSpD7_dypVXHSmWMJ9tMwfTNz-2P8OlmBxcGdy_3BOXkMWo

"The director has also expanded the role of Paul's mother, Lady Jessica. She's a member of the Bene Gesserit, a sect of women who can read minds, control people with their voice (again, a precursor to the Jedi mind trick), and manipulate the balance of power in the universe. In the script, which Villeneuve wrote with Eric Roth and Jon Spaihts, she is even more fearsome than before. The studio's plot synopsis describes her as a "warrior priestess." As Villeneuve jokes, "It's better than 'space nun.' ""

Because it will expand and enrich Jessica's character to make her into a space ninja who flips out and stabs people. *rolleyes*

I remember how they "expanded" Princess Irulan for the Sci-Fi miniseries, and it was all awful. All in the name of giving women bigger roles, but resulting in shallow changes that don't add anything to the story.
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2020, 03:11:18 PM »
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I remember how they "expanded" Princess Irulan for the Sci-Fi miniseries, and it was all awful. All in the name of giving women bigger roles, but resulting in shallow changes that don't add anything to the story.


Thats 2000s daddyo! How about DEEP changes that substantially take away from the story?

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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2020, 03:36:54 PM »
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Thats 2000s daddyo! How about DEEP changes that substantially take away from the story?

We'll see.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2020, 07:54:25 PM »
Gotta love them "expanding" the role of whamen in a franchise that already had empowered women all over the place. But what can you give the already empowered woman? Turn them into a complete Sue, I guess.

Good thing I never got my hopes up for this thing. I'm hyper-aware of the decades we're living in and I already got one Dune film when I was a kid and one miniseries as a young adult, plus also read the novel a bunch of times years ago. So I'm good.

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2020, 11:01:46 AM »
On the one hand, Villeneuve made a competent follow-up to Blade Runner (no small task) that had plenty of awesome female characters but that didn't overly drink the koolaid.

On the other hand, Villeneuve got attacked to high fucking heaven for how much he hated teh wimminz for making that film.

On the third hand, the product is probably more of a reflection of the director's beliefs and intentions than CYA media interview bullshit.

On the fourth hand, Dune adaptations always seem to suck.

On the fifth hand, the last 5-10 movies I've watched and enjoyed were all made before 2010.

On the sixth hand, I ran out of hands a while ago at this point.

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2020, 07:44:46 PM »
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/04/14/sharon-duncan-brewster-confirmed-as-race-and-gender-swapped-liet-kynes-in-dune-film-heavily-implies-film-will-be-woke/

"If you thought it might get better from there, think again. In the obvious puff piece from Vanity Fair, they describe Paul Atreides as Greta Thunberg.
Anthony Breznican writes, "Think Greta Thunberg, only she's a Jedi with a diploma from Hogwarts.""

I'm fucking done. Hard pass.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2020, 07:48:01 PM »
Does it come as any surprise they'd screw it up? And people are praising it for its "vision".

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2020, 02:32:12 AM »
Sounds absolutely terrible.
Will give a miss.

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2020, 03:17:02 AM »
Now I can't unsee the ecologist Liet Keynes with braids. Thanks a lot.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2020, 06:10:36 AM »
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Anthony Breznican writes, "Think Greta Thunberg, only she's a Jedi with a diploma from Hogwarts."

I was thinking that people might be overreacting, but this...oh boy...this is just so, so bad.

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2020, 09:01:26 AM »
Part of me wants to call this another outrage marketing stunt. But the more you read the more it sounds like genuine stupid rather than manufactured stupid.

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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2020, 11:03:09 AM »
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https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/04/14/sharon-duncan-brewster-confirmed-as-race-and-gender-swapped-liet-kynes-in-dune-film-heavily-implies-film-will-be-woke/

"If you thought it might get better from there, think again. In the obvious puff piece from Vanity Fair, they describe Paul Atreides as Greta Thunberg.
Anthony Breznican writes, "Think Greta Thunberg, only she's a Jedi with a diploma from Hogwarts.""

I'm fucking done. Hard pass.
I'm not saying that you're not making the right call, but this is supposedly a quote from Breznican, who is the writer of the Vanity Fair article -- not someone involved in creating the film. So I think it says more about Vanity Fair than about the film. Here's the Vanity Fair piece being commented on, for reference:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/04/behold-dune-an-exclusive-look-at-timothee-chalamet-zendaya-oscar-isaac

I don't see the quote there, though, but there are claims that it was edited out.

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2020, 11:39:35 AM »
I had little faith when Lynch brought it to the screen. I have little faith in it now. Especially now.

Dune should be a TV-series. Not a movie. Wrong format and medium.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2020, 12:17:48 PM »
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I had little faith when Lynch brought it to the screen. I have little faith in it now. Especially now.

Dune should be a TV-series. Not a movie. Wrong format and medium.

What did you think about the Sy-Fy series?
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2020, 01:48:41 PM »
She was already very badass in the first book, being able to best tough fremen males. Describing her as a "space nun" doesn't really fit. What book were they reading?