I enjoyed it.

Yeah, topping the end of Mando 2 would be extremely difficult. But it was good.

Not gonna lie...Ming-Na Wen still looks mighty fine as well as badass.

And since we only have a couple months to Obi-Wan, I'm satisfied for a bit.

I'll get around to seeing it later, but I'm seeing a lot of negative takes on social media, even people whose opinions I sort of agree with.

We had to stop halfway through because my son woke up and wouldn't go back to sleep, have to watch the second half later.

Quote from: Thornhammer on February 10, 2022, 12:20:45 AM
Yeah, topping the end of Mando 2 would be extremely difficult. But it was good.

I am of the opinion that getting most of an episode of Master Luke and Grogu in BOBF Episode 6 tops the very brief cameo in Mando.

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Not gonna lie...Ming-Na Wen still looks mighty fine as well as badass.

Indeed. I kind of hope they give Fennec Shand a storyline of her own sometime. We only see her in the context of being Boba's majordomo.

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And since we only have a couple months to Obi-Wan, I'm satisfied for a bit.

Is Obi-Wan next? Then Ahsoka, then Mando?

With Obi-Wan happening in a different time period than the Mandoverse, I'm not expecting a lot of crossovers. Though Star Wars Rebels had Obi-Wan show up for an episode, and it would not surprise me to see the Obi-Wan show revisit that storyline in live action.

Ok. Watched it. Nothing specific for spoilers, but I thought it was ok, but just ok.
Which is better than a lot of Star War lately, so *shrug*

Details on Saturday. I have a nit to pick, and it's bugging the hell out of me.

All totaled I'm let down.

Boba Fett is portrayed throughout the series as INCOMPETENT and out of character. Without going into last-episode spoiler issues (which had a lot of stuff that bugged me)... The Boba Fett of the series simply didn't stack up with Fett's portrayal in the Mandalorian - which was more hard edged and ruthless.

That's something you *have* to be to run a criminal empire. Then somehow in this series we get a bait-and-switch where he's "takes over" but doesn't want to actually engage in any criminal business "because"... but what? He expects people to pay tribute "or else"?

My big problems are the scenes where Boba Fett should be *showing* his skills, they give it to Fennec Shand to be the actual badass. I'm not saying they shouldn't downplay her either - they established her as a galactic-feared assassin. Check. Boba Fett is more known in the underworld than that. Dude worked for Darth Vader and the Hutts. He's a fucking legend among Bounty Hunter's Guild, and all the downplaying of that shouldn't have diminished his rep. I mean everyone thought he died... with Jabba... but that motherfucker is STILL ALIVE. If anything it should have reinforced his rep.

The establishing scene of him offing Bib Fortuna was perfect. It was no-nonsense, and straight to the fucking point. The show mires itself in INTENSELY stupid tactical choices that Boba Fett would never have done. It's not that the story beats of the series were wrong - it lacks good script editing to make sure

#1 Boba Fett is the star of the fucking show.
#2 Boba Fett should be doing Legendary Boba Fett shit at ALL TIMES
#3 The Hutts should be the fucking Enemies. Not the fucking Mayor - who upon realizing Boba Fett was back, should have shit in his pants, and bent the knee. The Pyke Syndicate? They know exactly who the fuck Boba Fett is. They're interested in *money* not fighting in the streets for no reason. I could go on much more about this but I'll wait til the spoiler embargo is over.

The Cyber-Tweens... just fucking a smelly discordant note that is a HUGE missed opportunity. It's stylistically completely not in-line with living on the Edge or specifically even Tatooine.  And they're horribly acted, and they suck. Conceptually they could have been cool... but no, they're a badly executed punchline.

Anyhow...

Finished watching it.  I literally laughed at one of the sound effects they used after a certain thing gets defeated. I mean.. it was such a generic "crowd cheering" sound it didn't fit in at all with the scene or how the actors/extras were behaving, probably because of the speedy editing that was rumored for the last episode. 

Insignificant spoiler, they used the damn wilhelm scream in one scene. It's the kind of think that when I hear it now, I reflexivley roll my eyes.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 11, 2022, 04:04:04 PM
Insignificant spoiler, they used the damn wilhelm scream in one scene. It's the kind of think that when I hear it now, I reflexivley roll my eyes.

I think there's a Wilhelm screen in everything star wars, its kind of an in-joke at this point I think.

Quote from: tenbones on February 11, 2022, 12:11:35 PM
All totaled I'm let down.

Boba Fett is portrayed throughout the series as INCOMPETENT and out of character. Without going into last-episode spoiler issues (which had a lot of stuff that bugged me)... The Boba Fett of the series simply didn't stack up with Fett's portrayal in the Mandalorian - which was more hard edged and ruthless.

That's something you *have* to be to run a criminal empire. Then somehow in this series we get a bait-and-switch where he's "takes over" but doesn't want to actually engage in any criminal business "because"... but what? He expects people to pay tribute "or else"?

My big problems are the scenes where Boba Fett should be *showing* his skills, they give it to Fennec Shand to be the actual badass. I'm not saying they shouldn't downplay her either - they established her as a galactic-feared assassin. Check. Boba Fett is more known in the underworld than that. Dude worked for Darth Vader and the Hutts. He's a fucking legend among Bounty Hunter's Guild, and all the downplaying of that shouldn't have diminished his rep. I mean everyone thought he died... with Jabba... but that motherfucker is STILL ALIVE. If anything it should have reinforced his rep.

The establishing scene of him offing Bib Fortuna was perfect. It was no-nonsense, and straight to the fucking point. The show mires itself in INTENSELY stupid tactical choices that Boba Fett would never have done. It's not that the story beats of the series were wrong - it lacks good script editing to make sure

#1 Boba Fett is the star of the fucking show.
#2 Boba Fett should be doing Legendary Boba Fett shit at ALL TIMES
#3 The Hutts should be the fucking Enemies. Not the fucking Mayor - who upon realizing Boba Fett was back, should have shit in his pants, and bent the knee. The Pyke Syndicate? They know exactly who the fuck Boba Fett is. They're interested in *money* not fighting in the streets for no reason. I could go on much more about this but I'll wait til the spoiler embargo is over.

The Cyber-Tweens... just fucking a smelly discordant note that is a HUGE missed opportunity. It's stylistically completely not in-line with living on the Edge or specifically even Tatooine.  And they're horribly acted, and they suck. Conceptually they could have been cool... but no, they're a badly executed punchline.

Anyhow...

I agree with pretty much all of this. Boba didn't feel like Boba and the show's tone was all over the place with too much time spent on everyone other than Boba.

Let The Spoilers Commence for Episode 7!

Did it seem to anyone else that Cad Bane had a death wish? Like maybe a bit of a Doc Holliday thing going on? He wanted to go out on his feet. But at the same time, he didn't want to make it a fair fight. Which is consistent, he was always a treacherous, clever enemy.

It seemed to me that they were going for Clint Eastwood when they animated Cad Bane's mouth.

It made sense to me that Luke sent Artoo to drop off Grogu. His first stint as a Jedi Master ended in failure, he probably wants to lie low and figure out where he went wrong. Hopefully he will. Again, I hope the plan is for Luke to become a great Jedi Master, but he isn't starting out there. I hope that getting to that point will be his story arc.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Luke pay a visit to Mando to apologize for how things ended with Grogu.

Pelli Motto's reaction to the X-Wing suggests that they are not a regular sight on Tattooine, so there is probably not a permanent New Republic presence at Mos Eisley.

That was Cobb Vanth in the bacta tank at the end. Looks like we're getting a Robocop.

Ok. fine episode. The Rancor got a bit silly, especially the King Kong homage, but ah well.

What's bugging me is how the damn shields allow the droids to fire through them. This isn't a nit restricted to this episode, or this universe, but it really stood out in this episode because we got great views of the blasts passing through the shields.

Since we never see the shields "flicker" to allow the shots to pass through, I'm going to assume for now that shields are only one way protection.

Quote from: Thornhammer on February 10, 2022, 12:20:45 AM
I enjoyed it.

Yeah, topping the end of Mando 2 would be extremely difficult. But it was good.

Not gonna lie...Ming-Na Wen still looks mighty fine as well as badass.

And since we only have a couple months to Obi-Wan, I'm satisfied for a bit.

  I do not even watch the show, any season, or have Disney plus.  I have even seen the end of the finale episode for Mando 2, and to be honest, I think it would be impossible for ANY series to have a better finale.   

Cry Havoc!!!

in no particular order

"Lets Not Fight In the Fortified Fortress" - Yes, let's let the retarded Vespa rider decide for the Daimyo and the Mandalorian to fight in the indefensible destroyed nightclub under the idiotic premise they were there "for the people". The fucking Pykes weren't there to KILL THE PEOPLE - they're coming to KILL YOU. So in what universe would Boba Fett and the Mandalorian take their strategic advice from a air-scooter riding idiot that lives in a back alley? DUMB

Tactical Failure - Mando and Fett come in hot, doing quite well flying in with aerial superiority, then immediate go full-retard and land in the middle of the street to provide their enemies with the perfect targets. If that was my campaign - those would be dead PC's, deservedly so.

Dark Lord of the Sith in the Making - So Grogu is destined for darkness. He's emotionally charged and he has the Force. FULL STOP - he's doomed. Luke should know this. There is a reason the Jedi practice non-attachment, so he's all set to fall to the Dark Side.

No Hutts is Stupid - Narratively the Hutts should have immediately rushed in to fill the vacuum of Jabba. There is a reason why Jabba was so powerful and why he made his home on Tatooine - it was the veritable hub of all spice trade coming from the Outer Rim and he was completely uncontested. Obviously his Kajdic knew and likely coveted this racket and there is literally no way that they wouldn't have claimed it *IMMEDIATELY*. I fully admit, when I saw the Twins arrive, I was like HOLY SHIT, they're gonna do it. And DEEP down I was hopying/praying they were gonna roll in with squads of Gangks, but when they pulled out... I was like WTF?!?!?!?

The TikTok Scooter Gang - Seriously... wtf. How out of place, non-sensical, and lame were these? What purpose did they actually serve? They could have been cool - if they looked like they were locals, instead we got CP2020 rejects on slow-moving vespas with lame outfits and bad hair. Horrible execution. They added nothing to the show, or the final episode except creating a gigantic narrative void in forcing a large combat that was fought like a bunch of morons for no reason.

I'm the Warlord of Nothing - Somehow Boba Fett went from "taking over Jabba's empire" to "becoming Sheriff of a town and demanding something for nothing." Seriously wtf? Do the writers of this show not understand they pulled the rug out from under us. The whole setup was for Fett to take over Jabba's operations, then he decides he's going to "clean up" Tatooine... are you fucking kidding me? There is a galaxy of shitty planets he could "take over" and be sheriff of - the whole point of Tatooine IS being two things: A hub of spice trafficking from the Outer Rim, and a hideout of super-powerful Force sensitives on the run. This whole thing about Fett becoming a do-gooder while shaking people down is nonsensical - and it actually overshadows Cobb Vanth... it's ***DUMB***. And it is completely out of character.

The Pyke Syndicate failure - If we're going on the premise that Boba Fett is trying to become "legit", then the Pykes make sense. The problem is the story would require at least three seasons to tell, and then maybe it might work. But the reality is crime syndicates exist to make money, not fight wars. That's bad for business. And the reality is if Fett showed up, the Pykes would at minimum have sent an envoy to see if they could get a better deal with Fett running the show than the stupid Mayor, as that never happened, for some reason, the Mayor and the Five Families got amnesia and forgot who the fuck Fett was, and worse, shit on him. In their defense, Fett was magically depowered from the end of Mandalorian and had all his testosterone removed in that Bacta Tank and injected into Fennec Shand, who was operating at peak ruthless.


The reality is the big gaping plothole is the Pykes should have been BACKING Boba Fett who should have been fighting against the Hutts. That is the arc that the story should have been telling. The Pykes want the same thing as the Hutts (who mysteriously just GAVE UP?!?!??!) and the best bet to take out the Hutts is to be backing Fett - who would have given them a better deal than the Hutts would have.

Anyhow... Fett is portrayed very poorly, he's outshined by every other character for no reason than to make him look incompetent rather than raise the stakes they lower them with stupidity and bad plotting and worse execution.

Quote from: tenbones on February 14, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
Cry Havoc!!!

Tactical Failure - Mando and Fett come in hot, doing quite well flying in with aerial superiority, then immediate go full-retard and land in the middle of the street to provide their enemies with the perfect targets. If that was my campaign - those would be dead PC's, deservedly so.

I like the drama of the jetpacks, but tactically, they're floating very slowly around with no cover, very easy targets.
Jetpacks should be used to get from point A to point B quickly without having to worry about terrain, but they should'nt loiter in the air and should find cover once they land.

QuoteDark Lord of the Sith in the Making - So Grogu is destined for darkness. He's emotionally charged and he has the Force. FULL STOP - he's doomed. Luke should know this. There is a reason the Jedi practice non-attachment, so he's all set to fall to the Dark Side.

Having Grogu come back seems to deflate the drama of him having to leave in the first place. We were told how his power would require training, and now he's left that training.
But what could Luke do? Force Grogu to stay?