Curt is roomies with A2k and Voice of Isaac. This is why he couldn't be kept off rpg.net. They ban him, he makes a sock puppet, they IP ban him, and - woops, your IP ban took out a mod and an admin, too.

I don't believe Curt ever made a sock puppet. But as a practical matter, they couldn't keep him off the site if he wanted to stay. A wise leader will always be seen to graciously accept that which they cannot prevent.

They made him a moderator to moderate his own behaviour, hoping that seeing all the reports and chaos of modding, and the sense of "setting an example" would make him less aggressive.

I'd say it worked. He is, ironically, the most sensitive of moderators; most sensitive to profanity and personal attacks, wherever they're directed. If you say (for example), "McDs is run by cunts," then most of the other mods would let it by; Curt would come in and warn you for "using the c word referring to the vagina as an insult." His reasoning would be that it's the most offensive profanity in the English language, and is especially offensive to women, and thus its common use would confict with the mission statement of making the site as welcoming to as wide a range of users as possible.

Whether he would be correct in that is neither here nor there; it's an example only. The point is that he's the mod most sensitive to swearing and personal attacks flying around, which is supremely ironic. It would be like RPGPundit becoming a mod there, no longer ranting, and criticising others for their rants.

Dominus Nox, I was not banned for racist or sexist comments; I was banned for being unwelcoming to non-gamers, and "bad for the site as a whole" (whatever that means). No moderator said I made racist or sexist comments; it was the non-mod gravedancers saying, "we won't miss him anyway, he was a racist/sexist bastard."

Still less was I banned for making "un-PC" comments. Please take your rant elsewhere. Your rant is usually inaccurate and misplaced, but it's especially so in this case.

Quote from: RPGPunditWow. Nox rolled a 1-10, an 11-15, and a 17 all at once.

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You need to revise the chart so that a natural 20 allows 1d3+1 rerolls.

Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalYou know, between this bullshit and the whole "gay" remarks thing, you really are coming across as a homophobic prick this week.

There's nothing to do with homophobia in this. Its just the truth, particular to Curt. Is he or is he not room-mate with a couple of the modclique?

Is there any reasonable concept that a guy like him could otherwise have managed to become a mod there? I mean, how else do you explain how you go from permabanned user to fucking MODERATOR after the sort of shit Curt had pulled? Were it not for his living arrangements, he would be just another name on the long list of guys who, rightly or wrongly, were not allowed anywhere near RPG.net.

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Quote from: KnightskyYou need to revise the chart so that a natural 20 allows 1d3+1 rerolls.

Clearly. Time for an "improved 2nd edition" table!

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Quote from: JimBobOzI don't believe Curt ever made a sock puppet. But as a practical matter, they couldn't keep him off the site if he wanted to stay. A wise leader will always be seen to graciously accept that which they cannot prevent.

They made him a moderator to moderate his own behaviour, hoping that seeing all the reports and chaos of modding, and the sense of "setting an example" would make him less aggressive.

I'd say it worked. He is, ironically, the most sensitive of moderators; most sensitive to profanity and personal attacks, wherever they're directed.

Last week I made a comment that was taken out of context. I got told;
"The level of bullshit in this thread has reached critical mass."
I said it was a 'telling riposte'. The poster then said "I'm not a kleenex. Get someone else to clean up your wank"

Now, big deal, the guy's an arsehole. But what got me was that Curt defended the guy for 'being blunt' when another poster called him on it. So, I decided that I could be blunt and told the guy if he couldn't add to the conversation, then fuck off.

Of course, I got red texted by another mod over it.

I see Iocabus just got a six month ban for calling Curt on his modding in a somewhat passionate way.

I haven't got anything against Curt, but I know 'arbitrary' when I see it. Rules have to be enforced evenly, otherwise you lose any respect you have on your ability to enforce those rules.

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The.........

Fuck?

Man, if you're that fucking dumb, I'm not going to bother trying to explain it.

Quote from: ChalkLineI see Iacobus just got a six month ban for calling Curt on his modding in a somewhat passionate way.

To be fair, I knew exactly what was going to happen when I called Curt a hypersensitive twit and a shitty poster. Then again, I also knew exactly what would have happened if I had just reported him for the personal attacks he so loathes.

Spoiler warning: it would have been the same thing

Quote from: IacobusTo be fair, I knew exactly what was going to happen when I called Curt a hypersensitive twit and a shitty poster. Then again, I also knew exactly what would have happened if I had just reported him for the personal attacks he so loathes.

Spoiler warning: it would have been the same thing

Welcome to the layer cake.

(Note: The above means only that I (a) welcome Iacobus with open arms and (b) watch way too fucking many crime movies.)

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

Oh yeah: Welcome, Iacobus. Are you giving theRPGsite a try?

Good point!

Welcome to theRPGsite, Iacobus, I hope you enjoy it here!

Quote from: RPGPunditThere's nothing to do with homophobia in this. Its just the truth, particular to Curt. Is he or is he not room-mate with a couple of the modclique?

  You said he slept his way into a position of power.  Do you really want to be claiming that he's only a mod because he's banging Isaac while A2K's away?  The implication's pretty clear... the modclique are all sexual degenerates and the only reason they keep Curt around is for the sex.  Making oblique references to sexual favours when you're talking about someone gay is on a par with talking about money and accounting when you talk about someone Jewish.  Given that you just got called on using "gay" as a synonym for "lame" or "shit" I think I'm on pretty good grounds for calling you a bigot.  You might have enough sense to say "I would never discriminate..." but you've got the stench of it on you.

  I think Curt's a fucking terrible moderator but I don't think his status as a mod says anything more about the purple site than the fact that you can be the biggest prick in the world on there and it doesn't matter as long as you're popular in the right circles.

  If you want to attack Curt at least attack his judgement and the policies of the site.  His sexuality has nothing to do with it.

Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalYou said he slept his way into a position of power.  Do you really want to be claiming that he's only a mod because he's banging Isaac while A2K's away?  The implication's pretty clear... the modclique are all sexual degenerates and the only reason they keep Curt around is for the sex.  Making oblique references to sexual favours when you're talking about someone gay is on a par with talking about money and accounting when you talk about someone Jewish.  Given that you just got called on using "gay" as a synonym for "lame" or "shit" I think I'm on pretty good grounds for calling you a bigot.  You might have enough sense to say "I would never discriminate..." but you've got the stench of it on you.

  I think Curt's a fucking terrible moderator but I don't think his status as a mod says anything more about the purple site than the fact that you can be the biggest prick in the world on there and it doesn't matter as long as you're popular in the right circles.

  If you want to attack Curt at least attack his judgement and the policies of the site.  His sexuality has nothing to do with it.

Aside from being the "fashionable Gay Activism dude", no, his sexuality doesn't have anything to do with his being moderator (as in, the modclique are a very shallowly fashionably PC bunch and his particular pet obsession fits right in with that; Curt isn't just gay he's loudly vociferously gay and aggresive about it, and the rest of the modclique thinks that it shows off their hipness by association to have him in their clique). His living arrangements, however, do.  That was the whole of my point. Whether he had actual sex with someone to get there, or whether its just a question of massive nepotism, is pretty much beside the point as the effective problem still stands: he's massively unqualified to moderate anything, and yet they put him there because of personal favoritisms of a particularly blatant nature.

Of course, most of that bunch are people I wouldn't ever trust in any kind of position of power, ever. Given what a big deal so many of them make of their Modhood, I can say with some relief that thankfully, most of them don't seem to have much power or authority in anything really important in the real world.

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Quote from: C.W.RichesonGood point!

Welcome to theRPGsite, Iacobus, I hope you enjoy it here!

I'm just trying to adjust to reading an RPG site where more than half the posts are a) actually about gaming and b) not eye-rollingly stupid.

It is a strange yet enjoyable feeling.

Quote from: RPGPunditThat was the whole of my point. Whether he had actual sex with someone to get there, or whether its just a question of massive nepotism, is pretty much beside the point as the effective problem still stands: he's massively unqualified to moderate anything, and yet they put him there because of personal favoritisms of a particularly blatant nature.

  Bullshit.  You're back-pedaling.  You said that he slept his way into a position of authority, the implication being that he's someone's sex toy.

  And what does "loudly and vociferously gay" mean?  Curt confronted a culture of casual homophobia that pervaded RPGnet just as it pervades much of American society.  While I don't like the social authoritarianism that came in the wake of those arguments (or more particularly the fact that the moderation policy moved from being anti-fascist to anti- pretty much everyone that steps out of line), I think he was completely justified in calling people on it and continues to be justified in calling people on casual homophobia to this day.  You might not like the guy but criticising him for refusing to put up with back handed homophobic comments like the ones you've been making is pretty craven if you ask me.