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Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: RPGPundit on August 05, 2008, 12:28:01 PM
http://kotaku.com/5032443/xbox-developer-dead-in-murder+suicide (http://kotaku.com/5032443/xbox-developer-dead-in-murder+suicide)

He was, apparently, the manager of DDI.

RPGPundit
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Dr Rotwang! on August 05, 2008, 12:44:25 PM
Why in this forum?
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Blackleaf on August 05, 2008, 12:46:48 PM
From the other thread (http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?t=11336&page=8):

Quote from: StuartMy condolences to the families and friends of the two. I imagine that could include some people reading this site.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Jackalope on August 05, 2008, 12:50:05 PM
Unless this thread is for discussion of how his death affects DDI and thus gaming, then this belongs in off topic.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: RockViper on August 05, 2008, 12:52:34 PM
Damn that sucks.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: JongWK on August 05, 2008, 01:39:23 PM
Horrible news for the family.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Fritzs on August 05, 2008, 01:51:54 PM
That's sad...

(and it belongs to offtopic)
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Blackleaf on August 05, 2008, 01:51:56 PM
Similar thread on RPG.net
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=408041

(I meant to post this here, not in the Gleemax thread)
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Seanchai on August 05, 2008, 02:22:33 PM
My condolences to the families and friends.

Seanchai
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: StormBringer on August 05, 2008, 02:29:12 PM
That is horrible news.  My sympathies, and may their family and friends eventually find peace.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: jgants on August 05, 2008, 03:00:41 PM
These kinds of tragedies are terrible.  In a strangely similar circumstance, I just had lunch with a friend today whose step-sister was murdered by her estranged husband last week.  I always feel so bad for the families because I cannot imagine how they manage to deal with something like that.  I would totally lose it.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Blackleaf on August 05, 2008, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: jgants;232130These kinds of tragedies are terrible.  In a strangely similar circumstance, I just had lunch with a friend today whose step-sister was murdered by her estranged husband last week.  I always feel so bad for the families because I cannot imagine how they manage to deal with something like that.  I would totally lose it.
That's a very sad and unfortunate coincidence.

Losing a family member suddenly is very hard. :(
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: walkerp on August 05, 2008, 03:17:45 PM
Vibes, man.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: KrakaJak on August 05, 2008, 05:27:29 PM
Such a beautiful girl too!


My condolences and best wishes to their friends and families.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: GameDaddy on August 05, 2008, 06:17:03 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;232004http://kotaku.com/5032443/xbox-developer-dead-in-murder+suicide (http://kotaku.com/5032443/xbox-developer-dead-in-murder+suicide)

He was, apparently, the manager of DDI.

He was not an RPG player or GM though... He did play (and maybe at one time design) Xbox live games though, and of course worked for Micro$oft.

Reference:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephbatten

She went through Harvard Law, was a public defender out in NC, gave that up, and moved out to the west coast to start a new life. Then she had an affair... and the rest... is history now.

Amongst the Xbox crowd, they are pretty evenly split on whether he was justified. And if all this had happened in Texas, it's still grounds for justifiable homicide, which goes along the same lines as self-defense.

In any event, IMO she didn't deserve to die, and he was as complete and  total a loser as is humanly possible.

It's unfortunate there's not a screening process that can detect losers like this, as they seem to be drawn to gaming like moths to a flame. The only place with more real-life drama, is Hollywood.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Werekoala on August 05, 2008, 09:30:49 PM
Ah yes, Restraining Orders - also known as "Exhibit A".

Such a waste.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: TheShadow on August 05, 2008, 11:00:01 PM
Quote from: GameDaddy;232246Amongst the Xbox crowd, they are pretty evenly split on whether he was justified.

:eek:

Justified? Much as I can understand the feelings of male jealousy, that is crazy talk.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Koltar on August 05, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: KrakaJak;232231Such a beautiful girl too!


My condolences and best wishes to their friends and families.

Everyone note - I did not post that first sentence.

Yeah, This is a really sad event. By that description of her career and life , she was a very talented woman who may have just been hitting her groove.
We'll miss out on future fun things she may have created or helped to design.


- Ed C.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: pathar on August 06, 2008, 12:17:27 AM
Damn, DDI is never going to get finished at this rate.

What?  You were thinking it too.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: John Morrow on August 06, 2008, 01:26:49 AM
Quote from: The_Shadow;232372Justified? Much as I can understand the feelings of male jealousy, that is crazy talk.

While I do not think that the killing is justified in any way, I think that a very bad reaction to a partner's adultery when you are married is more than mere jealousy.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Imperator on August 06, 2008, 04:44:12 AM
My condolences.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Will on August 06, 2008, 10:04:50 AM
What freaks me out a little is about a month ago I had a feedback meeting with Melissa.

Addendum:
I think this is another case of language structure molding expression. There is no English word for 'understandable' that doesn't also connote 'reasonable.'

Say Man A is walking down the street, and Man B spills soda on Man A unintentionally. Man A responds by screaming about pensions and shooting Man B. Understandable or justified? Er, no.

Turns out Man A has been a janitor for 20 years until fired in a sleight of hand designed to deny him pension. Man B threw a soda out his car window, carelessly, and it spilled on Man A; Man B then laughed. Understandable? Sure. Justified? Still no.

That a wife has an affair and the husband becomes so enraged he is driven to extreme violence is understandable, but in no way justified.

But since English (at least) has no clarity in this sort of discussion, people respond by thrashing about. Sure, a bunch of folks are misogynist a-holes, but I think it would be unfair to use that to explain the entire mess.


I debated delving into this, as a distraction apart from the point that two intelligent and interesting people died. And remember that while he may have done evil and succumbed to the worst impulses, the husband has family, friends, and others who grieve what he did to himself, both spiritually and physically, as well as what he did to his poor wife.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: John Morrow on August 06, 2008, 12:06:05 PM
Quote from: Will;232541I think this is another case of language structure molding expression. There is no English word for 'understandable' that doesn't also connote 'reasonable.'

On on the other side, there is no easy way to express that a person contributed to their fate but didn't deserve it.  Having an affair, if she had one, was foolish and reckless and was a wrong against her husband but that does not mean that she deserved her fate.

I can also imagine that there are people who know both who wonder where it all went so horribly wrong.
Title: Senior Technology Manager at WoTC Kills Himself, Wife, in Murder-Suicide
Post by: Grimjack on August 06, 2008, 12:51:14 PM
This is truly sad.  What struck me is that she was a public defender so she would have known how violent and ugly divorces can get but even knowing that and getting the restraining order didn't help her.

Not to imply that she was responsible for what happened but I do divorce work and the ugly truth is the incidents of violence that you see almost always involve a cheating spouse and restraining orders don't stop anyone determined enough.