In recent interviews, CNN has talked with some muslim clerics in london, several of whom have openly admitted wanting to see the day when Sharia (Islamic law that cominates every aspect of life) is forcibly imposed on the UK by an army of muslims. Another cleric said the only politics he and his followers understood or believed in was picking up an AK 47 and shooting everyone who wouldn't live the way they said.

The same program polled london muslims and found that 13% felt that the terrorists who bombed the london subways and murdered innocent people are heroic martyrs.


But hey, ""it's only a few of the"m, right? Nooooooothing to worry about, so don't, right?

I'm sure a lot of people in europe felt the same way about a certain violent, vocal minority in germany once upon a time. But then again those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Who ever said "nothing to worry about"? There's a difference between worrying about a subset of a race or religion and turning that worry into an irrational fear and hatred for all of that group's members.

Quote from: Dominus NoxI'm sure a lot of people in europe felt the same way about a certain violent, vocal minority in germany once upon a time. But then again those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Wow ... you invoked Godwin's law on the first post of a new thread?  That's got to be some kind of record.

For someone else it'd be a record. For Nox, its just tea-time.

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Yeah, some wankers in the US thought that the KKK were misrepresented too. The world is a shocking place.

Quote from: Dominus Nox...some...

...several...

...Another...

...13%...

Whatever, dude.  As you said so rightly, if everyone is going to accuse of you of being a "MORON!!!" and "IGNORAMUS!!!" you might as well be one.

!i!

Quote from: TonyLBWow ... you invoked Godwin's law on the first post of a new thread?  That's got to be some kind of record.

Godwin's law was written by a fucking nazi in order to try intimidating people into not warning people about any bunch of fascists who want to try for a fourth reich, be it under a swastika or under a crescent moon and star.

Nox vs Muslims aside for a moment...

"Godwin's Law" really is a load of crap.  It makes sense in it's natural habitat -- web forums about Star Trek where someone calls a mod "a nazi".  But when people are talking about race, politics, fascism, or world wars, and they want to compare/discuss what happened in Germany during the 30s -- the Godwin stuff is nonsense.

Submit to the will of Allah, Nox. You know you want to....

I'm a bit surprised Nox. You say you admire the KKK because they are not hypocrites, but yet you are repulsed by Muslim extremists (I mean, surely they state their goals, much like the Klan - upfront). I can only conclude that you wouldn't mind living under the banner of the former but dread living under the yoke of the latter. You do realize that most sane folks would piss on both options...but you are a precious snowflake...and I still want to run a game for you.

Regards,
David R

Hey, David R, didn't you say somewhere you were "coloured", as they call it over in the ol' US of A? I think Nox only games with white anglo-saxon protestant males. Sorry, only wants to game. We know he doesn't actually game.

Come and game here Down Under in Melbourne, we're very multicultural. We've got Jews playing Vampire, lesbians playing D&D, moslems playing Traveller, Chinese playing 7th Sea... I mean, I even have an American in my game group at the moment, that's how open-minded we are! :confused:

Quote from: David RI'm a bit surprised Nox. You say you admire the KKK because they are not hypocrites, but yet you are repulsed by Muslim extremists (I mean, surely they state their goals, much like the Klan - upfront). I can only conclude that you wouldn't mind living under the banner of the former but dread living under the yoke of the latter. You do realize that most sane folks would piss on both options...but you are a precious snowflake...and I still want to run a game for you.

Regards,
David R

Most klansmen really don't want to force their ways on anyone so much as they want to be left alone and not have others ways forced on them.

Most acts of klan violence are provoked by outsiders trying to force their ways on the lives of the members.

BTW, muslim extremists kill more people around the world in ONE MONTH than the KKK has killed since it's foundation in 1865, so comparisons between muslim extremists and them are unwarranted.

Quote from: Dominus NoxMost klansmen really don't want to force their ways on anyone so much as they want to be left alone and not have others ways forced on them.

Most acts of klan violence are provoked by outsiders trying to force their ways on the lives of the members.

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History by Dominus Nox! Like David Irving, only with less scholarship!

Song for Nox, from the great Hootie!

   Trouble with the world is we're too busy to think about it, all right
Why is there a rebel flag hanging from the state house walls?
Tired of hearin' this shit about heritage not hate
Time to make the world a better place
Why must we hate one another?
Well no matter what we gotta live together
Just that you don't look like me, tell me what do you see
When we pass on the street what do you wanna see
P.E.'s coming is all I gotta say
Wanna turn and run away
They're just telling you how they see it
Right or wrong they don't care, you wish that they would quit

Drowning in a sea of tears
Hatred trying to hide your fears
Living only for yourself
Hating everybody else
Cause they don't look like you
Nanci singing it's a hard life wherever you go
About some fat racist living in Chicago
Trying to teach his kids to hate everyone
Well tell me why is that something you wanna teach your son?
Why must we hate one another?
When the people in the church, they tell me you're my brother
You don't walk like me, ... you don't talk like me, saying
Go back to Africa, I just don't understand

I'm trying to be someone that he could look up to, but
When I walk down the street, tell me what do you see
I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man
No I'm not like you
Why do you hate me so
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know
Hating everybody else cause they don't look like you

Quote from: Dominus NoxMost klansmen really don't want to force their ways on anyone so much as they want to be left alone and not have others ways forced on them.

Most acts of klan violence are provoked by outsiders trying to force their ways on the lives of the members.

BTW, muslim extremists kill more people around the world in ONE MONTH than the KKK has killed since it's foundation in 1865, so comparisons between muslim extremists and them are unwarranted.

Nox, I could quip or say something mean like everyone else here, or I could simply state fact.

I will simply state fact:  You're wrong.

There are no numbers on how many people the Klan has killed.  Many deaths went unreported in the 19th and 20th centuries, so we can't really argue your "one month" vs. 142 years figure.  However, the fact remains that the Klan doesn't simply "want to be left alone," that's nonsense.

Also nonsense is your statement that all Klan killings are provoked somehow by "outsiders trying to force their ways on the lives of the members".  That is also complete and utter nonsense.  Study your American history, bro, you'll find most of the Klan's killings are either of African Americans, Jews and Catholics living in the United States.  

There is no terrorist organization that can be seen as good.  The Klan are undoubtedly a terrorist organization.