Fact is, community matters to some people, or they wouldn't be so eager to see D&D contract or fail.

I say this as someone who really doesn't care much one way or the other.

When a radio station starts playing music you don't like anymore, that's not about community...

Quote from: Abyssal MawAnd yeah, WoW beats all of this. Do you see me resenting WoW? No. I love WoW, because I know there's a whole generation of kids out there that get why gold pieces and hit points are cool. I can invite them into my COMMUNITY without denigrating theirs, or telling them they have to choose one over the other.

See, that doesn't surprise me because I know you're that kind of guy.

But the thing is, in this thread, a lot of things you wrote draw unnecessary lines and have a divisive vibe. Personally, I think you're just trying to fuck with annoying elitist twits but the particular words and sentences you used... it's also insulting to people who are not actually elitist twits and just happen to enjoy other games.

For the record, I get that games offer different perks and communities/support/etc... can be some of them. But frankly, I get just as many people at my table whether I use Everway (out of print for what? A decade?) or D&D3.x.

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On another note, I don't want to diss D&D3 (it's one of my favorite games) or the advantages of a community like d20 but I think you're giving too much credit to that stuff and not enough credit to yourself. I've read your interventions here and there for some time, enough to know you are resourceful as a GM, very enthusiastic about gaming, smart. You draw really cool illos and maps. You seem to have organizational skills. Imagination.

You think everybody who just desires to run a 3.5 group is going to receive an equal amount of interest? Because of the network externalities or whatever? I'll grant you that some gamers will look at a [insert favorite game] opportunity whatever the cost. They'd play with a guy who takes a monthly bath and is dumber than Paris Hilton. But lots of people are going to be attracted by a pleasant GM, pleasant environment, some enthusiasm and a good pitch.

Quite frankly, if you stayed close and offered to run a game of Fireborn or whatever other games I consider utter failures, I'd come.

On the other hand, there are people I would refuse to game with, flat out.

Well, thanks for that.

Your'e probably right that I was being overly divisive. Character flaw! I get cranky, and then I just want to screw with people.  So instead I went to the gym, then came home and took a nap.

Droog, you want to hear about my divorce?

Quote from: Abyssal MawDroog, you want to hear about my divorce?

Why not? Does it have anything to do with RPGs?