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Great things America has given the world

Started by Balbinus, August 22, 2008, 11:08:32 AM

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Fritzs

#30
August 22, 2008, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: gleichman"They may fear us. Respect us. But they'll never love us".

USA isn't scary at all... look at Russia...

Quote from: BalbinusNext you'll be citing Renaissance art, or something equally irrelevant.

Bayeaux tapestry... not comicbook but it still counts as comic, even trought the name has not been coined yet... also many medieval chronicles were essentialy more pictures than text (because only rare few could read)... or should I mention egyptian art or hokusai manga...

Anyway contribitions:

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gleichman

#31
August 22, 2008, 04:42:05 PM Last Edit: August 22, 2008, 05:59:19 PM by gleichman
Quote from: Fritzs;238851USA isn't scary at all... look at Russia...

The quote comes from a different time.

Edit: as was in reference to the best possible outcome as well.
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Balbinus

#32
August 22, 2008, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: Fritzs;238851USA isn't scary at all... look at Russia...



Bayeaux tapestry... not comicbook but it still counts as comic, even trought the name has not been coined yet... also many medieval chronicles were essentialy more pictures than text (because only rare few could read)... or should I mention egyptian art or hokusai manga...

Anyway contribitions:

GMO corn
Light bulb
Andy Warhol

Thanks for the contributions, but those things other than the Hokusai manga (which is a case of separate evolution really, the modern comic book owes far more to the US than that) are not comics.  I think you're really stretching the definition to try to make them so.

Koltar

#33
August 22, 2008, 05:00:38 PM
Amusement Parks

- and -

Action filled/blockbuster type Movies.


The eiropean player in my RPG group told me that when she was growing up in Italy and other parts of the Mediterranean she and her friends preferred to go see whatever the newest action movie from America was.
Sure the ones made in Europe might be more historically 'accurate' - but they didn't have the cheesy FUN! factor.

She also didn't discover Amusement parks till she started living in the U.S.A.

Oh and COMIC BOOKS were invented and perfected in America. I have a reference book around here somewhere on the modewrn Comic Book that traces the history.


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Ian Absentia

#34
August 22, 2008, 05:04:55 PM
Quote from: gleichman;238848Wow, I wouldn't have thought anyone would have messed that one up.
We're not discussing "firsts" here.  I'll stand by my statement, Yuri Gagarin aside.  I believe the achievement of manned spaceflight as a whole is a direct outgrowth of American ingenuity, and the Soviet space program (and other nations' programs) largely in reaction to it.  The only nation to achieve lunar landing.  The mission-based practicality of the Space Shuttle program.  The first privately funded human spaceflight.

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David R

#35
August 22, 2008, 05:05:59 PM
This maybe tangential to the discussion but one of the "great" things about America is that it has allowed foreign talent to showcase their particular sensibilities to a wider audience. I'm talking about art specifically but it applies to other things. I call this the "Hitchcock" effect.

Regards,
David R

Koltar

#36
August 22, 2008, 05:13:31 PM
Quote from: David R;238866This maybe tangential to the discussion but one of the "great" things about America is that it has allowed foreign talent to showcase their particular sensibilities to a wider audience. I'm talking about art specifically but it applies to other things. I call this the "Hitchcock" effect.

Regards,
David R

You may be absolutely right.

I'm thinking of people like : Craig Ferguson, Patrick Stewart, John Cleese...there are others. Who didn't gain a wider audience until they were featured in American shows and movies or embraced by American audiences..

 Both Stewart and Ferguson are American citizens now.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

David R

#37
August 22, 2008, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: Koltar;238874You may be absolutely right.

I'm thinking of people like : Craig Ferguson, Patrick Stewart, John Cleese...there are others. Who didn't gain a wider audience until they were featured in American shows and movies or embraced by American audiences..

 Both Stewart and Ferguson are American citizens now.

Hmm...I'm mostly talking about folks who have - for lack of a better  word - expanded the boundaries of the medium rather than folks who are only just plying their trade/craft -  like the ones you mentioned.

Regards,
David R

jeff37923

#38
August 22, 2008, 05:33:06 PM
Quote from: Balbinus;238638What about you?  Any suggestions?

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Internet
Fast Food*

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"Meh."

jeff37923

#39
August 22, 2008, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: David R;238886Hmm...I'm mostly talking about folks who have - for lack of a better  word - expanded the boundaries of the medium rather than folks who are only just plying their trade/craft -  like the ones you mentioned.

Regards,
David R

If you don't think that Patrick Stewart's performance in Safe House didn't expand the boundaries of the medium then I'd like to know what performances would.
"Meh."

Ian Absentia

#40
August 22, 2008, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;238889Traveller
Sorry.  The first mercantile/military science fiction RPG was published in the Soviet Union.  I wouldn't have thought anyone would have messed that one up.

!i!

droog

#41
August 22, 2008, 05:41:07 PM
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The past lives on in your front room
The poor still weak the rich still rule
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The books at home

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David R

#42
August 22, 2008, 05:47:31 PM Last Edit: August 22, 2008, 06:01:15 PM by David R
Quote from: jeff37923;238893If you don't think that Patrick Stewart's performance in Safe House didn't expand the boundaries of the medium then I'd like to know what performances would.

Stewart may have been good in Safe House I would not know never having seen the film but if he was good, it's a return to form. Nothing boudary expanding. Even though all this is extremely subjective - after some great performances can there ever been any real boudary expanding in the medium of acting ? - I would suggest that Daniel Day Lewis breaks boundaries pretty often although he did this first with his work in the UK....but I have to admit his performance in There Will Be Blood blew me away but like Stewart it was probably just "great" (in this case) work from a reliable performer.

Edit: I change my mind. Although his performance was "good" in Blood, it was "great" in The Ballad of Jack & Rose.

Regards,
David R

jeff37923

#43
August 22, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: Ian Absentia;238894Sorry.  The first mercantile/military science fiction RPG was published in the Soviet Union.  I wouldn't have thought anyone would have messed that one up.

!i!

That may be so, but I thought we were talking about great American contributions to the world. Traveller definitely fits that description as far as I'm concerned.

I've never even heard of this Soviet Union RPG, do you have any more info on it?
"Meh."

gleichman

#44
August 22, 2008, 06:04:00 PM
Quote from: Ian Absentia;238865We're not discussing "firsts" here.  I'll stand by my statement, Yuri Gagarin aside.

I was under a different impression given what Balbinus has and has not accepted.

But it's his call.
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