There a cartoon currently airing in Japan and in the USA on Crunchyroll titled Goblin Slayer, adapting an older novel and comic book. It seems to be closely based on D&D, except it has loads of ultraviolent and sexual content.

In the first episode alone, we see a party of fifteen year old kids get dismembered alive, gang-raped, etc. Another dude butchers goblin babies as if it was normal.

And, get this, the series is supposed to be a satire of popular Japanese comics/cartoons of the time fetishizing rape.

/tg/ dislikes it because the world building falls apart upon inspection. It has its own 1d4chan page about this.

What do you think?

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1060596There a cartoon currently airing in Japan and in the USA on Crunchyroll titled Goblin Slayer, adapting an older novel and comic book. It seems to be closely based on D&D, except it has loads of ultraviolent and sexual content.

In the first episode alone, we see a party of fifteen year old kids get dismembered alive, gang-raped, etc. Another dude butchers goblin babies as if it was normal.

And, get this, the series is supposed to be a satire of popular Japanese comics/cartoons of the time fetishizing rape.

/tg/ dislikes it because the world building falls apart upon inspection. It has its own 1d4chan page about this.

What do you think?

Meh. I cut my teeth on Urotsukidoji. Anime with violence and rape is nothing new. I guess it's made a splash because it's tangentially related to the RPG genre.
Haven't seen it.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1060596There a cartoon currently airing in Japan and in the USA on Crunchyroll titled Goblin Slayer, adapting an older novel and comic book. It seems to be closely based on D&D, except it has loads of ultraviolent and sexual content.

In the first episode alone, we see a party of fifteen year old kids get dismembered alive, gang-raped, etc. Another dude butchers goblin babies as if it was normal.

And, get this, the series is supposed to be a satire of popular Japanese comics/cartoons of the time fetishizing rape.

/tg/ dislikes it because the world building falls apart upon inspection. It has its own 1d4chan page about this.

What do you think?

I watched it its violent but the sexual content as A whole is over blown be cause the npcs didn't like what they saw and the licenser crunchyroll fucked up and listed the show as tv PG rather then the tv ma it should have been listed as.
I took A peek at the later content and actually turns in to A character study.Now don't get me wrong the 1st ep did have the net casualty's as 2 rapes one violent murder and A mercy killing of the 1st party but thats be cause the show is at its core dark fantasy. Whats more contrary to what all the fruit says the show definitively displays rape in A negative context. if you don't want to deal with the shows content thats fine but fucking grow up and deal with the fact that not everyone is so fragile as to need to be protected from strong content. As of ep 2 I'd say it's A good show and I plan to keep watching.
[video=youtube;X48RPHBOQi0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48RPHBOQi0[/youtube]
gigguk made A descent vid explaining the situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEWR4NA_d-0

I know it's unlikely, but I really hope the series gets dubbed in English. I'm reading the series now and it's pretty enjoyable, though there are a few scenes coming up later that I'm curious if/how they'll censor. There's plenty of light-hearted fantasy stuff out there, so it's nice seeing something besides Berserk where things get serious. The goblins in GS are actually monstrous, and it's awesome seeing their tactics come into play. Plus, I love the names. A lot of people struggle with anime names and call characters by nicknames, anyway, but in GS that's already done for you. Priestess, High Elf Archer, Dwarf Shaman... I think one of my favorite side characters is Female Knight. She and Heavy Warrior make the best duo.

I am fan of Queen's Blade, which is basically D&D softcore lesbian porn anime (also on Crunchy Roll. Or was).  But strangely, inspired by the Lost Worlds series of gamebooks

Quote from: kosmos1214;1060758I watched it its violent but the sexual content as A whole is over blown be cause the npcs didn't like what they saw and the licenser crunchyroll fucked up and listed the show as tv PG rather then the tv ma it should have been listed as.
I took A peek at the later content and actually turns in to A character study.Now don't get me wrong the 1st ep did have the net casualty's as 2 rapes one violent murder and A mercy killing of the 1st party but thats be cause the show is at its core dark fantasy. Whats more contrary to what all the fruit says the show definitively displays rape in A negative context. if you don't want to deal with the shows content thats fine but fucking grow up and deal with the fact that not everyone is so fragile as to need to be protected from strong content. As of ep 2 I'd say it's A good show and I plan to keep watching.
[video=youtube;X48RPHBOQi0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48RPHBOQi0[/youtube]
gigguk made A descent vid explaining the situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEWR4NA_d-0

I looked up the the info on the comic and novel. The series treats rape survivors in an extremely insensitive manner and generally makes liberal use of the "women in refrigerators" trope, so it does not appeal me at all. There are only two characters who survived rape and/or mutilation and they are minor characters who serve as accessories to the main characters who are never subject to rape or mutilation. Not only that, but all abusees who don't immediately die are women, specifically attractive and typically underage girls.

For reference, I am a survivor of familial abuse and attempted to murder the bastard responsible. Seeing abusees, especially young girls, treated so callously gives me flashbacks to that pain and hatred. So every time I see an author write that sort of thing, I feel a strong desire to kill them as some kind of twisted justice.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1060979I looked up the the info on the comic and novel. The series treats rape survivors in an extremely insensitive manner and generally makes liberal use of the "women in refrigerators" trope, so it does not appeal me at all. There are only two characters who survived rape and/or mutilation and they are minor characters who serve as accessories to the main characters who are never subject to rape or mutilation. Not only that, but all abusees who don't immediately die are women, specifically attractive and typically underage girls.

For reference, I am a survivor of familial abuse and attempted to murder the bastard responsible. Seeing abusees, especially young girls, treated so callously gives me flashbacks to that pain and hatred. So every time I see an author write that sort of thing, I feel a strong desire to kill them as some kind of twisted justice.

No series is for everyone, and considering your background I don't blame you for not being interested in Goblin Slayer. That's totally understandable. But you're wrong on several points.

We see a number of survivors of goblin attacks in the series, including at least one who goes on to recover and become A BIG DEAL. She's not one of the main party, but she's actually the head of the church who was raped over ten years ago, yet she went on to become one of the top legendary heroes who helped slay a demon lord and she's one of the strongest humans on the planet despite being blind. She shows that, just like in real life, people have different reactions to assault and deal with it in different ways. I'm actually hopeful that we eventually see the Monk character from the original party down the line sometime. I really liked her.

You say the main characters are never raped or mutilated. While technically true so far, the series is still very young and it hasn't pulled its punches. While no penetration happens in one particular scene coming up, all I'll say to avoid spoilers is that even main characters aren't safe and it wouldn't shock me if we lose some of the main players before the series is over.

Like I said, the series is clearly not for you and that's cool, but do understand that it's not quite as black and white as you believe.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1060979I looked up the the info on the comic and novel. The series treats rape survivors in an extremely insensitive manner and generally makes liberal use of the "women in refrigerators" trope, so it does not appeal me at all. There are only two characters who survived rape and/or mutilation and they are minor characters who serve as accessories to the main characters who are never subject to rape or mutilation. Not only that, but all abusees who don't immediately die are women, specifically attractive and typically underage girls.

For reference, I am a survivor of familial abuse and attempted to murder the bastard responsible. Seeing abusees, especially young girls, treated so callously gives me flashbacks to that pain and hatred. So every time I see an author write that sort of thing, I feel a strong desire to kill them as some kind of twisted justice.

In short your the npc who has A past that can't take the show and is here to try and seek validation because you can't handle and don't like the show. Also I have some advise 1st off get your self some help I'd say its pretty obvious you need it. 2# your full of crap and as it has all ready been pointed out your facts are wrong. #3 Try actual listening to reasonable factual reporting not snow flake crap.
And for reference I don't normally talk about it but I have been Horribly abused so your Ive been abused crap dosn't fly with me my previous comment stands

Was that the sound of dice rolling I heard at the end of the first episode?

I liked it.  Brutal as hell, I can see why some wouldn't like it.

Thought the monk was the party thief until she mentioned fighting unarmed.

Quote from: Thornhammer;1061177Was that the sound of dice rolling I heard at the end of the first episode?

I liked it.  Brutal as hell, I can see why some wouldn't like it.

Thought the monk was the party thief until she mentioned fighting unarmed.

Yep, and the dice actually mean something. That wasn't just a random sound or a reference to tabletop games. It'll be explained a bit later, assuming they include that bit from the source material.

They cut some bits out from the light novel/manga that gave more information on the original crew. You got to see the monk show off a bunch of moves outside the cave (I can't recall if that was in the show but I don't remember it), and before each of the party was taken down you got a flashback showing a quick backstory for that character. The monk was actually trained by her father, and there's a shot of her standing at her dad's grave and promising to use the skills he taught her to help everyone she can. Like I said, she was my favorite of that group and I'd actually like to see her again somewhere down the line.

You will get to see a party thief later on, incidentally. That scene is actually kinda funny.

Aside from CR screwing up the rating I am not sure what the uproar is over?

Compared to some of the stuff from the 80s and especially 90s its practically tame.

Quote from: Brand55;1061022No series is for everyone, and considering your background I don't blame you for not being interested in Goblin Slayer. That's totally understandable. But you're wrong on several points.

We see a number of survivors of goblin attacks in the series, including at least one who goes on to recover and become A BIG DEAL. She's not one of the main party, but she's actually the head of the church who was raped over ten years ago, yet she went on to become one of the top legendary heroes who helped slay a demon lord and she's one of the strongest humans on the planet despite being blind. She shows that, just like in real life, people have different reactions to assault and deal with it in different ways. I'm actually hopeful that we eventually see the Monk character from the original party down the line sometime. I really liked her.

You say the main characters are never raped or mutilated. While technically true so far, the series is still very young and it hasn't pulled its punches. While no penetration happens in one particular scene coming up, all I'll say to avoid spoilers is that even main characters aren't safe and it wouldn't shock me if we lose some of the main players before the series is over.

Like I said, the series is clearly not for you and that's cool, but do understand that it's not quite as black and white as you believe.

You sweet summer child.

The monk character learned she was pregnant with a goblin and killed herself. This was used to make priestess feel sad. The sword maiden who survived rape was introduced as a love interest for slayer.

The creators actually have a mandate to keep the main characters virginal because the otaku market doesn't buy merchandise about "damaged goods." Seriously, one comic writer said a main character in another comic was a rape survivor and got death threats from lunatic otakus complaining about their waifus.

Quote from: kosmos1214;1061097In short your the npc who has A past that can't take the show and is here to try and seek validation because you can't handle and don't like the show. Also I have some advise 1st off get your self some help I'd say its pretty obvious you need it. 2# your full of crap and as it has all ready been pointed out your facts are wrong. #3 Try actual listening to reasonable factual reporting not snow flake crap.
And for reference I don't normally talk about it but I have been Horribly abused so your Ive been abused crap dosn't fly with me my previous comment stands

Please don't misunderstand. I don't play the victim card to get sympathy points or as some kind of contest. I played it the last week several times, more than I ever wanted in my life, because a lot of people are extremely ignorant about how insensitively society and media treats abuse survivors and some don't take me seriously unless I play that card. The people who defend the show are extremely biased. I had arguments the past week and many defenders actually dismissed the concerns of survivors who argued with them. I've been denigrated for being a survivor multiple times now, so please don't add to that list.

I can read rape porn without a problem. All of my favorite characters in Game of Thrones are survivors of prolonged emotional, physical and/or sexual abuse.

The reason Goblin Slayer disgusts me is that it treats rape and survivors in such a flippant manner while having the audacity to claim it has some kind of deep message to tell. The writing and world building is terrible (and /tg/ has argued this many times), so the only thing that makes it stand out is the gruesome violence and sexual assault and general mistreatment of rape survivors. I read ahead in the source material. I looked up the otaku market. What I learned was repulsive.

I'm sorry to say that after years of thinking I was getting over my trauma, Goblin Slayer triggered me. Not because of the gruesome violence or rape, but because of the pretension and the people on the internet defending the inclusion of rape and mocking anyone who complained. Goblin Slayer isn't just some shlocky gore-porn that nobody will remember anymore, it's become a rally point in the culture wars.

If you want me to shut up and leave, then let me know and I will. You sound really upset and I don't want to make you feel worse.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1061347You sweet summer child.

The monk character learned she was pregnant with a goblin and killed herself. This was used to make priestess feel sad. The sword maiden who survived rape was introduced as a love interest for slayer.

The creators actually have a mandate to keep the main characters virginal because the otaku market doesn't buy merchandise about "damaged goods." Seriously, one comic writer said a main character in another comic was a rape survivor and got death threats from lunatic otakus complaining about their waifus.

Psssh! Like some fat otaku's going to make it down the street without having a heart attack from the exertion.

QuotePlease don't misunderstand. I don't play the victim card to get sympathy points or as some kind of contest. I played it the last week several times, more than I ever wanted in my life, because a lot of people are extremely ignorant about how insensitively society and media treats abuse survivors and some don't take me seriously unless I play that card. The people who defend the show are extremely biased. I had arguments the past week and many defenders actually dismissed the concerns of survivors who argued with them. I've been denigrated for being a survivor multiple times now, so please don't add to that list.

I can read rape porn without a problem. All of my favorite characters in Game of Thrones are survivors of prolonged emotional, physical and/or sexual abuse.

The reason Goblin Slayer disgusts me is that it treats rape and survivors in such a flippant manner while having the audacity to claim it has some kind of deep message to tell. The writing and world building is terrible (and /tg/ has argued this many times), so the only thing that makes it stand out is the gruesome violence and sexual assault and general mistreatment of rape survivors. I read ahead in the source material. I looked up the otaku market. What I learned was repulsive.

I'm sorry to say that after years of thinking I was getting over my trauma, Goblin Slayer triggered me. Not because of the gruesome violence or rape, but because of the pretension and the people on the internet defending the inclusion of rape and mocking anyone who complained. Goblin Slayer isn't just some shlocky gore-porn that nobody will remember anymore, it's become a rally point in the culture wars.

If you want me to shut up and leave, then let me know and I will. You sound really upset and I don't want to make you feel worse.

There are people like that. They won't go away, and they won't stop because you got triggered by an anime.

BoxCrayonTales, you're never going to get a good feel for a series just by checking wiki entries. I think the big problem is that you want Goblin Slayer to be one thing when it simply isn't that, and it never pretended to be. You claim that "it treats rape and survivors in such a flippant manner while having the audacity to claim it has some kind of deep message to tell." Where? One, where does it treat rape and survivors any more harshly than a series like Game of Thrones? What makes Crastor's Keep or the Dothraki any better than a race of monsters that has to capture and rape humans to reproduce? And secondly, where did it ever claim to be anything more than a dark fantasy series with some humorous bits and light harem elements added for good measure? I just don't understand that part.

I have to disagree with you on some of your other points, too. Sword Maiden isn't even a serious love interest (Goblin Slayer isn't a romantic series, after all), and she's done a lot more for the world than show an interest in the title character. All of the girls have, and they all serve a purpose. That's actually what I like about this show compared to a lot of harem shows. In 99% of harem anime, the MC is some oblivious high school dumbass who by all rights should be jumping at every chance to get laid. Here, it makes sense that the MC is oblivious. He's emotionally broken and doesn't have any interest in romantic entanglements. Watching his development is one of the best parts of the series, and a lot of the girls really help with that even while they have other stuff to do. The manga/LNs really highlight that, as there are entire chapters of the various series where Goblin Slayer doesn't even show up.

As far as fans go, absolutely. Every series has crazy, stupid fans. But you're wrong that people won't like characters unless they're "pure." Revy from Black Lagoon is one of the most popular characters in all of anime, and her backstory is horrific. Balalaika and Roberta weren't raped but they're horribly scarred or maimed, and that doesn't diminish their popularity. The crazier a fan sounds, the more you know they shouldn't be listened to. The sort of people willing to send death threats are the kind of people we can do without in any fandom.

Just going to throw out that the Women in Refrigerators bit was the dumbest thing Gail Simone ever wrote. Because she only looked at it from one side. Yes, female SOs in comics that aren't capes have a tendency to get bumped off to motivate male heroes.

Male SOs that aren't capes just get bumped off.