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Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 01:59:24 PM
I know he can't read this, but others that might know where he posts can. Does anyone know another board where Nox actually posts at, and what name(s) he uses there?

And please don't turn this thread into a Nox bash fest. There's plenty of those out there already. I'm just looking to get in touch with him.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: UmaSama on June 08, 2007, 02:45:00 PM
Why?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: ElectroKitty on June 08, 2007, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: UmaSamaWhy?
Does it matter?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: UmaSamaWhy?

Because I've got something I'd like to discuss with him regarding some older posts of his with sci-fi game ideas, Since he doesn't post here anymore I can't just bump the threads and hope he responds. And with the backlash from necroing that's been happening, I'd rather start a new thread anyway.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Werekoala on June 08, 2007, 03:49:13 PM
Why can't he read your post? Did he get banned or something? Or just 'cause he dosn't come around anymore?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 08, 2007, 03:51:29 PM
Why? Because James is trying to be deliberatively provocative in light of recent events.  He's a bold-faced liar who's only motive in posting a thread with this title is to annoy and engage in his ongoing pissing-match with me.

RPGPundit
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 03:56:57 PM
Werekoala, he got topic banned from Off Topic and then stopped coming around the site altogether. I know a couple other boards he reads (SJ Games & RPG.net) but he doesn't post those places anymore either (at least not under any name I've ever heard).
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditWhy? Because James is trying to be deliberatively provocative in light of recent events.  He's a bold-faced liar who's only motive in posting a thread with this title is to annoy and engage in his ongoing pissing-match with me.

RPGPundit

Two questions:

1) Where did you find a mirror so covex you could see your own ego in it? and

2) Why on Earth did you build yourself a pair of blinders out of it?

Please take your thread crapping elsewhere. I'm trying to get a question answered.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 08, 2007, 04:03:22 PM
The answer is nowhere, you little cunt.  The big question right now is whether you're about to join him or not.

RPGPundit
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 04:14:32 PM
He doesn't post anywhere? Given his personality I find that hard to believe.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: jrients on June 08, 2007, 04:31:27 PM
Dammit, James.  You've got me thinking Pundit is onto something here.  I just talked him into reopening the goddamned bagel thread but removing Nox's name from the title to avoid unnecessary trouble.  Now you go and start a new thread stirring up this old shit.

I'd really, really like to give you the benefit of the doubt here.  I'd really like to assume you weren't causing trouble on purpose.  But this just looks bad, this thing where you start a new thread invoking the name of the single most disruptive poster in the history of the board.  So I'm going to give you chance to dig yourself out of this hole by asking you two simple questions:

1)  Did you try simply sending Nox a PM first?  The dudes not banned, it would have forwarded a notice to his email addy.

2)  If not, why the fuck not?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: J Arcane on June 08, 2007, 04:36:31 PM
You all know I hate Pundit right?

Much that it pains me to say it, my first thought upon seeing this thread was exactly what Pundit posted, that this was purely to stire up shit over that stupid fucking bagel thread.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 05:04:23 PM
The thread in question was about nanotech in games. I've just finished listening to Michael Crichton's Prey (decent book as long as you don't mind being treated like an idiot and given a Deus ex Machina ending). The talk about Nox (whic, by the way, was not started by me) reminded me there had been a thread by him about it and I wanted to chat more.

It has nothing to do with Pundit, despite what his ego thinks. Yes, I think he's a retard. Yes, I think he's a blow hard. Yes, everyone knows I think he's a boil on the ass of gaming.

But that doesn't change that this thread had fuck all to do with him until he decided to make it about himself.

I did not send a PM because I assumed that since he does not come here he would never know. I've gotten a bunch of PMs from here and never seen an email, so it didn't cross my mind he'd get an email.

Why is it I'm under the gun? If I can point out the occurrences of the last few days:

1) Koltar bumps a thread about bagels. It had started as a joke about Nox (which he'd played along with) but at that point had nothing to do with him.

2) Pundit locks that thread.

3) I ask why.

4) Christmas Ape points something out to me and I say where I'd misread a statement and gotten the wrong idea.

5) Pundit calls me an idiot for making the mistake I'd already recognized and copped to. He then says he locked the thread because "he saw no reason for it."

6) Serious Paul calls him on it.

7) Pundit unlocks the thread but censors the title

8) I start a thread asking if anyone has seen Nox because I want to talk to him and Pundit calls me a liar, makes blanket statements about my motives, and then threatens to ban me. Yes, I fucked up and jumped to the bait the first time, but ignored his second bit of blather hoping it would go away. I thought it was RPG.net whose mods threatened to ban people and baited them to make it happen, not here?

Also, when listening to Pundit about my motives, keep in mind that this is the guy who, after having talked with me in depth in regards to my excitement about Forward... To Adventure!, came back one week later in another thread and said that every post I'd ever made about his game was just an attempt to bash the game and bring it down.

Do a search for threads about FtA I've participated in if you don't believe me. I was jazzed about the game and interested in how the combat system would play out. Then when I expressed a dislike of his purposeful choice to make the game as much a carbon copy of D&D as he could I became a heretic to be attacked and my history was rewritten to accomodate my all-encompassing disdain. And that's not the first time he rewrote my history and ignored perfectly friendly and supportive things I've said, or help I've tried to give him when he asked about what kind of campaigns to run next.

The man's got blinders on, and sees what he wants to see.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 08, 2007, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: James McMurrayWhy is it I'm under the gun? If I can point out the occurrences of the last few days:

Really? Really you putrid little fucker? You're surprised at why innocent little you would be so unfairly persecuted?? Let's look at your own fucking timeline, shall we??

Quote7) Pundit unlocks the thread but censors the title

8) I start a thread asking if anyone has seen Nox (ed: where you address him by his full name and invite him to come back here)

You just couldn't help yourself, could you? Even while trying to play the victim, you couldn't help but get the little dig in about my "censorship", where you give away the obvious fucking truth: that you decided that I was "censoring" Nox's name, so you decided that to try to make up for your insecurities about your penis size you would post Dominus Nox's name in big letters for all to see just how you courageously defy the Pundit, and address him personally asking where he is and practically inviting him to come back here, to boot?

You know what? Fuck this, and fuck you, you lying squirming sack of shit. I decided that Nox's presence on the Off-topic board was a clear disruption of the site. And indeed, it was, to the point that no one was talking about anything but Nox for weeks, and that the board took weeks to recover even after he was gone before people would dare to come back here and start posting off-topic threads again.
And now you come back here to dredge all this shit up again, in some pathetic attempt to prove what a man you are?!

You want to see who wears the fucking Viking Hat around here, motherfucker? Tell me why by the same logic I banned Nox from the Off Topic forum I shouldn't ban you from it as well?!

RPGPundit
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: beeber on June 08, 2007, 05:30:01 PM
did he use the same handle on sjgames's forum?  if he keeps the same name, try googling him or something
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 05:40:08 PM
Just do whatever you want. I've already proven that you don't actually read the things I say, so why should I waste my time trying to placeate you?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: jrients on June 08, 2007, 09:24:50 PM
James.  Come one, man.  Pundit just got done flying off the handle at the sight of someone necro-ing an old thread with Nox's name in the title.  Given everything we all know of Pundit's tendency to flip the fuck out, starting a new thread about Nox at this time looks like trying to incite Pundit to freak out and close another thread.  Can you see how I might reach that conclusion, especially given the history of you two sparring in the past?  From where I'm sitting this thread in the current context looks like pissing in the soup.  Maybe you didn't mean the yellow stuff to land in the pot, but what was your dick doing out in the kitchen anyway?

You see what I'm saying, man?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Brantai on June 09, 2007, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: jrientsJames.  Come one, man.  Pundit just got done flying off the handle at the sight of someone necro-ing an old thread with Nox's name in the title.  Given everything we all know of Pundit's tendency to flip the fuck out, starting a new thread about Nox at this time looks like trying to incite Pundit to freak out and close another thread.  Can you see how I might reach that conclusion, especially given the history of you two sparring in the past?  From where I'm sitting this thread in the current context looks like pissing in the soup.  Maybe you didn't mean the yellow stuff to land in the pot, but what was your dick doing out in the kitchen anyway?

You see what I'm saying, man?
Not to defend James here - because I honestly have no idea what his motives are (and he's posted shit specifically to piss off Pundit in the past) - but Pundit never does anything but fly off the handle about something or other.  Are we seriously expected to worry about how Pundit is going to react to what we post?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: peteramthor on June 09, 2007, 02:17:52 AM
Quote from: BrantaiNot to defend James here - because I honestly have no idea what his motives are (and he's posted shit specifically to piss off Pundit in the past) - but Pundit never does anything but fly off the handle about something or other.  Are we seriously expected to worry about how Pundit is going to react to what we post?

What's worse is that we can't put him on ignore either.  But he also tends to make any problem worse.  This thread for instance, if he hadn't added anything it would probably never have even got a reply.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: J Arcane on June 09, 2007, 02:22:53 AM
Quote from: BrantaiNot to defend James here - because I honestly have no idea what his motives are (and he's posted shit specifically to piss off Pundit in the past) - but Pundit never does anything but fly off the handle about something or other.  Are we seriously expected to worry about how Pundit is going to react to what we post?
And yet people wonder why I'm so down on his presence here, and why I get concerned when he starts interrogating people like he's the fucking Inquisition.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Kyle Aaron on June 09, 2007, 03:19:34 AM
As has been said, sending him a PM is a good bet, or else posting to a thread he started - some people set themselves to get email notifications on those.

On SJGames, Dominus Nox also called himself Lexx, Nomad and JCD.

There is a "Dominus Nox" on rpg.net, but his sig says something like "there's a permabanned guy by the same name, I ain't him."
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Christmas Ape on June 09, 2007, 04:27:44 AM
Stupid fucking rpg.net outtage. I wanted to do this clever thing where I take "Tell me why I shouldn't ban you" and Darren's "I'm in a bad mood I'll do what I want" reply in his controversial D&D thread, then make jokes about own goals and losing the cup to a hated rival team.

But noooooo, I'm reduced to making this fucking meta-post about how much this site is becoming exactly what the tBP mods said it would; a tiny little rpg.net with fouler language and a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Brantai on June 09, 2007, 04:41:43 AM
Quote from: Christmas ApeBut noooooo, I'm reduced to making this fucking meta-post about how much this site is becoming exactly what the tBP mods said it would; a tiny little rpg.net with fouler language and a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses.
Man, having a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses than rpg.net is quite a feat.  That takes some dedication.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Sacrificial Lamb on June 09, 2007, 05:14:05 AM
Quote from: Christmas ApeStupid fucking rpg.net outtage. I wanted to do this clever thing where I take "Tell me why I shouldn't ban you" and Darren's "I'm in a bad mood I'll do what I want" reply in his controversial D&D thread, then make jokes about own goals and losing the cup to a hated rival team.

But noooooo, I'm reduced to making this fucking meta-post about how much this site is becoming exactly what the tBP mods said it would; a tiny little rpg.net with fouler language and a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses.
This is not RPGnet. We don't need to fear the mods here. That fact alone changes everything.

And honestly, are we forgetting the "Dark Times"? Remember when Nox had access to "Off Topic Discussion", and it was the "Dominus Nox Show"? So soon we forget. :(  Furthermore, James is deliberately and publicly invoking Nox's name on the subforum Nox was banished from. That's asking for trouble. :(
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Christmas Ape on June 09, 2007, 05:40:15 AM
Quote from: Sacrificial LambThis is not RPGnet. We don't need to fear the mods here. That fact alone changes everything.
First, let me make the joke regarding "You're right. Just the one admin".

Now that that's out of the way? You're clearly not paying enough attention. The only thing Pundit threatens banning for appears to be a pattern of disruption to the site. Unfortunately, disagreeing with him is disruption. Oh, he'll first take some time to tell you how magnanimous and forgiving he is, like all tyrants before the ax falls, for not banning you right off for calling into question his absurd shit. But do it a few times, or at least enough times to get the hamster in his head running on that little Paranoia Wheel, and your entire history on the site has been an attempt to disrupt and harass it because you work for the Swine like some kind of fucking MKULTRA killer, programmed to compulsively interfere and vex whenever "real roleplayers", I mean "regular roleplayers", get together.

QuoteAnd honestly, are we forgetting the "Dark Times"? Remember when Nox had access to "Off Topic Discussion", and it was the "Dominus Nox Show"? So soon we forget. :(  Furthermore, James is deliberately and publicly invoking Nox's name on the subforum Nox was banished from. That's asking for trouble. :(
You mean back when the poster who was least conducive to real conversation fit into an ignore list, and primarily kept his shit to Off-Topic, rather than breaking into rational conversations to scream "FUCK! SWINE! FUCK!! I SO SMART AND GOOD! FORGE BAD!!! RRRRAAAR! FUCK!!"?

Yes, but clearly with a different level of fondness. You're still living there, man, so it looks pretty awful...I've moved past it and seen how shitty the future is.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: J Arcane on June 09, 2007, 05:57:11 AM
Well, CA just said almost everything I could possible say on the subject of this site, it's moderation, and Pundit's influence here.

The main reason I'm still here, is that by and large everyone else I don't really mind so much, even the ones I've gotten cross with, and hey, at least there I can ignore the ones I don't like.

I will say though, that whatever one can say about Pundit's paranoid tyrant act, Jrients is nothing but level-headed in everything, and I respect the hell out of the guy.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Seanchai on June 09, 2007, 11:33:05 AM
Quote from: jrientsI'd really, really like to give you the benefit of the doubt here.  I'd really like to assume you weren't causing trouble on purpose.  But this just looks bad, this thing where you start a new thread invoking the name of the single most disruptive poster in the history of the board.  

Yeah. I didn't assume lily white motives myself, either.

Seanchai
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 09, 2007, 12:34:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas ApeStupid fucking rpg.net outtage. I wanted to do this clever thing where I take "Tell me why I shouldn't ban you" and Darren's "I'm in a bad mood I'll do what I want" reply in his controversial D&D thread, then make jokes about own goals and losing the cup to a hated rival team.

But noooooo, I'm reduced to making this fucking meta-post about how much this site is becoming exactly what the tBP mods said it would; a tiny little rpg.net with fouler language and a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses.

Given that in our 9+ months of existence we've had a grand total of....


wait for it....


drum roll please....

0.. that's right ZERO bans; I would say you're grotesquely exaggerating the level of oppression here.  
I've always said I would almost certainly end up having to ban someone, and some of the mods feel that James would be a good choice since he seems mentally incapable of ever stopping his little crusade to show everyone how big his penis is by "defying" me.  We're discussing it backstage, and believe it or not, I'm the one who's STILL, after all this, after the shit I've had to take from him, after the way other shitheads like J Arcane have tried to use his actions to their advantage, etc etc. I'm STILL the one who's arguing against banning him.

So if you really think this place is just "RPG.net with less clear ban rules" GO FUCK YOURSELF, then get a fucking clue you ignorant twat, and FUCK YOURSELF WITH THAT TOO.

RPGPundit
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 09, 2007, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: J ArcaneWell, CA just said almost everything I could possible say on the subject of this site, it's moderation, and Pundit's influence here.

The main reason I'm still here, is that by and large everyone else I don't really mind so much, even the ones I've gotten cross with, and hey, at least there I can ignore the ones I don't like.

I will say though, that whatever one can say about Pundit's paranoid tyrant act, Jrients is nothing but level-headed in everything, and I respect the hell out of the guy.

You're like a guy who can't stop talking about how much he hates the Rolling Stones, how much of a shithead Mick Jagger is, how evil he is, how much you despise him... and yet you go to all of the concerts, all of them, and claim that you're really just here for the "atmosphere".  :rolleyes:

Its hilarious, but a bit worrying to me. I'm scared that late at night, you're spending all your time bare-chested in front of the mirror with your face covered in kitten blood, a pipe in your mouth, hitting yourself with a copy of the D&D PHB repeating over and over again "I am the pundit! I'm the pundit! he's not the pundit I'm the Pundit!!"

I mean really, either your only goal here is to destroy what this place stands for, or you are seriously mentally fucked up in a really scary way.

RPGPundit
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Brantai on June 09, 2007, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditYou're like a guy who can't stop talking about how much he hates the Rolling Stones, how much of a shithead Mick Jagger is, how evil he is, how much you despise him... and yet you go to all of the concerts, all of them, and claim that you're really just here for the "atmosphere".  :rolleyes:

Its hilarious, but a bit worrying to me. I'm scared that late at night, you're spending all your time bare-chested in front of the mirror with your face covered in kitten blood, a pipe in your mouth, hitting yourself with a copy of the D&D PHB repeating over and over again "I am the pundit! I'm the pundit! he's not the pundit I'm the Pundit!!"

I mean really, either your only goal here is to destroy what this place stands for, or you are seriously mentally fucked up in a really scary way.

RPGPundit
Oh, please.  You're seriously suggesting some of us need to get a clue?  Take the plank out of your own eye first, shithead.  You realize you just called yourself the rockstar of this board, and the rest of us your legions of screaming fans?  If you want an audience, go back to Xanga.  If you're posting here, try to realize it's not the Pundit show anymore.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Dr Rotwang! on June 09, 2007, 02:24:15 PM
Quote from: BrantaiIf you're posting here, try to realize it's not the Pundit show anymore.
8:00 PM - EVERYBODY LOVES ROTWANG! (TV PG)
Rotwang! (Dr Rotwang!) tries to bake a cake in time for Louise's (Fran Drescher) birthday, while Unce Jesse (Michael Palin) builds a robot in the basement. Guests: Robert Louis Stevenson, Anne Hathaway, Topo Gigio.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Aos on June 09, 2007, 02:34:51 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if monkeys had their own Jesus?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: JongWK on June 09, 2007, 04:20:20 PM
Quote from: AosWouldn't it be cool if monkeys had their own Jesus?


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/thefrymaster/MonkeyJesusColourMyspace-1.jpg)
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: J Arcane on June 09, 2007, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit*snip paranoid ravings*

Congratulations dipshit, you just proved CA's point.  Bravo.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Sacrificial Lamb on June 09, 2007, 04:29:19 PM
Quote from: Christmas ApeFirst, let me make the joke regarding "You're right. Just the one admin".

Now that that's out of the way? You're clearly not paying enough attention. The only thing Pundit threatens banning for appears to be a pattern of disruption to the site. Unfortunately, disagreeing with him is disruption.

That's simply not true. People disagree with Pundit all the time. He may very well insult them, but when has he just arbitrarily banned ANYONE? The man has plenty of faults, but at least make a token attempt to be accurate.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Aos on June 09, 2007, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: JongWK(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/thefrymaster/MonkeyJesusColourMyspace-1.jpg)
I want to fuck the monkey Jesus
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: beeber on June 09, 2007, 04:57:57 PM
doc, i bow to you.

i NEVER IN A MILLION ZILLION YEARS thought i would ever see topo gigio's name on an internet gaming board.  

and anne hathaway's on your show?  swoon!
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: jrients on June 10, 2007, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: Christmas ApeStupid fucking rpg.net outtage. I wanted to do this clever thing where I take "Tell me why I shouldn't ban you" and Darren's "I'm in a bad mood I'll do what I want" reply in his controversial D&D thread, then make jokes about own goals and losing the cup to a hated rival team.

But noooooo, I'm reduced to making this fucking meta-post about how much this site is becoming exactly what the tBP mods said it would; a tiny little rpg.net with fouler language and a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses.

I'm not for banning anybody.  I'm for calling out people when they fuck up.  I think James was stirring the shit by starting this thread and I said so.  You think the admins are over-reacting and you are totally entitled to that opinion and to express that at any time.

But to substantively address your accusation that we have a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses than RPGnet, frankly I like it that way.  If we publish of list of stupid things that get you banned it will do very little to change the admin practices around here.  In theory such a list leads to consistent banning practices.  But admins are flawed people just like every other human.    The interpretation and enforcement of that list would be imperfect and subject to the whims of the admins.

So in practice, a clear-cut list of bannable offenses achieves only one thing.  It provides the admin a figleaf, a way to justify their bannings.  I don't want that.  I don't need that.  And I truly think this board is better without such a list.  Why?  Because if I show someone the door, it's all on Jeff Rients.  I can't point to some stupid stone tablets and pretend I'm not responsible for my actions.  It's all on me to make a good call, a call I can defend with something a lot better than "dude clearly violated Article 62, No Smoking In The Boys' Room".

Quote from: BrantaiAre we seriously expected to worry about how Pundit is going to react to what we post?

No.  I generally expect people to speak their mind without fear of consequence.  However, I think it is fair in this case to acknowledge that this particular thread followed fast on the heels of the previous drama of the moment and could be seen as an attempt to fan those flames.  Since we all enjoy the freedom to speak our minds here, I don't think I'm out of line in asking people to take seriously their responsibility to avoid unnecessary controversy.  We've got plenty of relevant, on-topic, and fun controversies we could be slugging it out over instead.

At this point I'm not going to post on this thread any more.  And I'm personally asking everyone else to think twice before adding to this particular shitpile.  If you want to start a new thread without the words Dominus or Nox in the title to continue the debate, that would be fine by me.  If you want to send me or Pundit a PM, that's fine too.  But I've said my piece here and I'm done.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Dr Rotwang! on June 10, 2007, 11:19:46 AM
Quote from: beeberdoc, i bow to you.
Dude, aim higher.

Quote from: beeberi NEVER IN A MILLION ZILLION YEARS thought i would ever see topo gigio's name on an internet gaming board.
Random-Access Memory -- it's not just for Apple IIs anymore!

Quote from: beeberand anne hathaway's on your show?  swoon!
Yeah, say that again when she owes you twenty bucks.  "I just need a couple of beach towels!  C'mon, I'll get you back on Wednesday!  Totally!"  Pfffft.  Riiiiiiiight.  HOW many Wednesdays, there, Ella Endebted?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 10, 2007, 12:32:46 PM
Quote from: jrientsJames.  Come one, man.  Pundit just got done flying off the handle at the sight of someone necro-ing an old thread with Nox's name in the title.  Given everything we all know of Pundit's tendency to flip the fuck out, starting a new thread about Nox at this time looks like trying to incite Pundit to freak out and close another thread.  Can you see how I might reach that conclusion, especially given the history of you two sparring in the past?  From where I'm sitting this thread in the current context looks like pissing in the soup.  Maybe you didn't mean the yellow stuff to land in the pot, but what was your dick doing out in the kitchen anyway?

You see what I'm saying, man?

I see it, and I saw it going into it. But I knew of no other way to get in touch with someone that never reads these boards anymore. I decided not to let the concern that a guy who hates me and thinks I'm a liar whose only goal is to destroy his game, his site, and perhaps even his world might be upset. What's he gonna do, like me less?

Quote from: JimBobOzAs has been said, sending him a PM is a good bet, or else posting to a thread he started - some people set themselves to get email notifications on those.

On SJGames, Dominus Nox also called himself Lexx, Nomad and JCD.

There is a "Dominus Nox" on rpg.net, but his sig says something like "there's a permabanned guy by the same name, I ain't him."

Thank you for that helpful and topical post. We've had our differences in the past (and I'm sure we will in the future) but I appreciate you seeing through all the bullshit and actually trying to help me with my original goal.

Quote from: Sacrificial LambThis is not RPGnet. We don't need to fear the mods here. That fact alone changes everything.

And honestly, are we forgetting the "Dark Times"? Remember when Nox had access to "Off Topic Discussion", and it was the "Dominus Nox Show"? So soon we forget. :(  Furthermore, James is deliberately and publicly invoking Nox's name on the subforum Nox was banished from. That's asking for trouble. :(

Where else should I have invoked it? He doesn't, as far as I can tell, read the entire site now. This isn't a thread related to RPGs or the forum itself, so OT seemed the only place for it.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 10, 2007, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: Christmas ApeFirst, let me make the joke regarding "You're right. Just the one admin".

Now that that's out of the way? You're clearly not paying enough attention. The only thing Pundit threatens banning for appears to be a pattern of disruption to the site. Unfortunately, disagreeing with him is disruption. Oh, he'll first take some time to tell you how magnanimous and forgiving he is, like all tyrants before the ax falls, for not banning you right off for calling into question his absurd shit. But do it a few times, or at least enough times to get the hamster in his head running on that little Paranoia Wheel, and your entire history on the site has been an attempt to disrupt and harass it because you work for the Swine like some kind of fucking MKULTRA killer, programmed to compulsively interfere and vex whenever "real roleplayers", I mean "regular roleplayers", get together.

You mean back when the poster who was least conducive to real conversation fit into an ignore list, and primarily kept his shit to Off-Topic, rather than breaking into rational conversations to scream "FUCK! SWINE! FUCK!! I SO SMART AND GOOD! FORGE BAD!!! RRRRAAAR! FUCK!!"?

Yes, but clearly with a different level of fondness. You're still living there, man, so it looks pretty awful...I've moved past it and seen how shitty the future is.

QFT

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!8:00 PM - EVERYBODY LOVES ROTWANG! (TV PG)
Rotwang! (Dr Rotwang!) tries to bake a cake in time for Louise's (Fran Drescher) birthday, while Unce Jesse (Michael Palin) builds a robot in the basement. Guests: Robert Louis Stevenson, Anne Hathaway, Topo Gigio.

I'd watch that show in a heartbeat. Probably even mindless drone my way to the supermarket to support the sponsors. :D

Quote from: jrientsI'm not for banning anybody.  I'm for calling out people when they fuck up.  I think James was stirring the shit by starting this thread and I said so.  You think the admins are over-reacting and you are totally entitled to that opinion and to express that at any time.

The shit was stirred, but that wasn't the goal. I just decided not to get worried about shit being stirred. Eventually I'm going to say something that will piss in Pundit's porridge anyway.

QuoteBut to substantively address your accusation that we have a less clear-cut set of bannable offenses than RPGnet, frankly I like it that way.  If we publish of list of stupid things that get you banned it will do very little to change the admin practices around here.  In theory such a list leads to consistent banning practices.  But admins are flawed people just like every other human.    The interpretation and enforcement of that list would be imperfect and subject to the whims of the admins.

Very true.

QuoteNo.  I generally expect people to speak their mind without fear of consequence.  However, I think it is fair in this case to acknowledge that this particular thread followed fast on the heels of the previous drama of the moment and could be seen as an attempt to fan those flames.  Since we all enjoy the freedom to speak our minds here, I don't think I'm out of line in asking people to take seriously their responsibility to avoid unnecessary controversy.

Waittaminnit! Is that honestly coming out of the keyboard of a mod on RPGPundit's website? Who decides which controversies are unnecessary? How necessary is it to start three threads calling a designer you don't like a moron? How necessary is it to start a thread about Mike Mearls's penis?

Does "unnecessary" mean "treads on the delicate sensibilities of an over the hill paranoid loon?"

QuoteAt this point I'm not going to post on this thread any more.  And I'm personally asking everyone else to think twice before adding to this particular shitpile.  If you want to start a new thread without the words Dominus or Nox in the title to continue the debate, that would be fine by me.  If you want to send me or Pundit a PM, that's fine too.  But I've said my piece here and I'm done.

Does this mean the words Dominus & Nox are now fully entrenched onto the censorhip list, or was Pundit's editting them out of a title and you saying "don't do it again" a coincidence?
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Kyle Aaron on June 10, 2007, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: James McMurrayThank you for that helpful and topical post. We've had our differences in the past (and I'm sure we will in the future) but I appreciate you seeing through all the bullshit and actually trying to help me with my original goal.
No worries, mate. Whatever people may think of my posting style or opinions, I do try to stay on-topic for each particular thread. If I have my own wild opinions I simply have to force on the world, I'll just start my own thread :D

Also as part of the same spirit that motivates GameCircle.org, I think it's nice to be able to connect gamers to one another. That's why I've invited Aussie gamers who insulted me a lot to GameCircle.org - just because I probably wouldn't want to game with them doesn't mean I wish for them to be without gaming, or gamers to talk to. It's nice to be able to connect people if you can.

Why anyone would want to be connected to Dominus Nox (as he presents himself online) is beyond me, but really it's not my problem.

I find the best way to keep things on-topic is to point out that if the threadjacker really wants to discuss so-and-so, they should start their own thread. If you respond to their points at all, you've conceded that the thread is now about their chosen topic.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Serious Paul on June 10, 2007, 11:53:47 PM
Quote from: Sacrificial LambThis is not RPGnet. We don't need to fear the mods here. That fact alone changes everything.

One should never fear moderators of any type, especially those on internet forums. But that's just my tangential reply, and thought on this one sentence, in one post.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Serious Paul on June 10, 2007, 11:55:34 PM
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!8:00 PM - EVERYBODY LOVES ROTWANG! (TV PG)
Rotwang! (Dr Rotwang!) tries to bake a cake in time for Louise's (Fran Drescher) birthday, while Unce Jesse (Michael Palin) builds a robot in the basement. Guests: Robert Louis Stevenson, Anne Hathaway, Topo Gigio.

I found this to be rather humorous. Thanks!
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Serious Paul on June 10, 2007, 11:58:40 PM
Quote from: JimBobOzI find the best way to keep things on-topic is to point out that if the threadjacker really wants to discuss so-and-so, they should start their own thread.

See I view this slightly differently. I enjoy that discussions, just like real life discussions, can lead to tangents that I may have never otherwise even conceived of going. To me it's a natural part of conversation.

Admittedly there is a time and place for everything, and sometimes you really do want to cut to the chase, so to speak. But I enjoy seeing the natural progression of things with out forcing it to fit into a certain mold.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Kyle Aaron on June 11, 2007, 05:23:06 AM
Well, as with all things, there's a happy middle ground. Looking at how forums are, it's not realy reasonable to expect that any thread will still be on-topic after, say, 200 posts - probably not even 100.

And there's thread-drift - like this post - and threadjacking, or threadcrapping, which is what McMurray did to himself and RPGPundit was trying to do to him. Those are different things, I think. If a thread drifts from one topic to a related one, well that's not so bad. But if someone jumps in to deliberately crap on things or tear it around to their pet topic or just abuse the OP, well that's not so good.

Basically, if you click on a thread which is supposed to be about X, if it turns out to be about Y or W, well at least it's close and might still be interesting to you. But if it's all about A or B, that's way out, and fuck, someone just wasted my time. And if it turns out to be someone yelling "shitcock!", that's pretty dull.

Also as well as threaddrift and threadjacking, there's threaddeath. When the OP's point's been dealt with, the thread dies off into irrelevant babble. Like this :D
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: Akrasia on June 11, 2007, 06:16:11 AM
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!8:00 PM - EVERYBODY LOVES ROTWANG! (TV PG)
Rotwang! (Dr Rotwang!) tries to bake a cake in time for Louise's (Fran Drescher) birthday, while Unce Jesse (Michael Palin) builds a robot in the basement. Guests: Robert Louis Stevenson, Anne Hathaway, Topo Gigio.

:hatsoff:
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 11, 2007, 10:13:38 AM
Quote from: JimBobOzWhy anyone would want to be connected to Dominus Nox (as he presents himself online) is beyond me, but really it's not my problem.

It's a matter of divorcing the message from the messenger. He has good ideas for gaming, and that's what I'm trying to reach. What he thinks about everything else is about as important as your desire to close the off topic forum: amusing, but not relevant to a role-playing thread. Just as I happily trade RPG thoughts with you, I'll happily trade them with him, despite our differences of opinion elsewhere.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 11, 2007, 12:33:01 PM
Quote from: JimBobOzWhy anyone would want to be connected to Dominus Nox (as he presents himself online) is beyond me, but really it's not my problem.

He didn't want to be connected to Dominus Nox. The only reason this thread exists is as a direct disruption of this forum intended to act as James' "defiance" of my "authority".

The proof of this is over in "the first bagel thread", where right after I change the name, James posts:

QuoteHow... interesting.

And then, about the name change:

QuoteAll it changes that I can see is that it lets Pundit concede to the wishes of his members but still maintain that last little authoritative tweak.

So Jame saw this as his big moment to take down my "last little authoritative tweak".  The whole story about wanting to find Nox by posting a thread directly addressed to him in the one place Nox isn't supposed to be, is such utter bullshit, and so bold-facedly infantile of a lie, that no one could possibly take it seriously.

This is just James, once more, trying to hold out his little dicklet and claim its bigger than mine. Fine.  I've given him countless chances before now to grow up and stop doing stuff that disrupted the site just to "prove he's a man" or whatever the fuck he's doing by going after me. As of right now, discussions are going on in the backroom regarding exactly what sanctions will be applied.

RPGPundit
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 11, 2007, 12:51:30 PM
Sorry, old bean, but this still isn't about you. That it managed to include you is amusing, but you're really not as important as you seem to think you are. Keep 'em coming though, it's a real hoot!


Back on topic:

JimBob, of those usernames, one didn't exist and the other two didn't have PMs turned on. Something tells me that "no PMs" is probably typical Nox policy, but if you happen to think of any others I wouldn't mind giving it one more try.
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: One Horse Town on June 11, 2007, 02:02:28 PM
I seem to recall from somewhere that Nox lived in Austin, Texas (i might be wrong). For a brief time, i had someone from there list me as a friend on my live journal. I think he went under the name Skaldgrimnir. I have no idea whether that is Nox or not, but i remember wondering at the time...

Perhaps a search under that will give you some joy. :confused:
Title: Dominus Nox, Where Art Thou?
Post by: James McMurray on June 11, 2007, 02:22:48 PM
Thanks, I'll check it out!