So I have been seeing this in peoples sigs, some sort of campaign for animal rights and such.

so to answer the questions:

Yes, I fucking do.

In fact I worked on farms, even a slaughter house for short while. Bottom line is that without all the methods used now for raising and butchering animals, there is no way in hell the demand for meat could be met. Period.

So unless half or more of america stops eating meat, don't expect any changes.

Ok, Rant over.

Quote from: McrowSo unless half or more of america stops eating meat, don't expect any changes.

Which is exactly their agenda. Now we're getting the "cows produce more greenhouse gasses than all the cars on the road" line to add another angle on the "no meat" bandwagon.

Quote from: WerekoalaWhich is exactly their agenda. Now we're getting the "cows produce more greenhouse gasses than all the cars on the road" line to add another angle on the "no meat" bandwagon.

Thats the funny thing, there is now way in hell that Amercians in any great numbers are going to change their eating habits.

The other thing is some of the reasoning is just plain fiction.

I love animal rights activists...




























...but I couldn't eat a whole one. Badum-tush.

My food comes from the neighborhood KROGERS store nearby  - OR- the food court in the mall.

  If I cook anything - the ingredients came from KROGERS (maybe BIGGS, WAl-MART, or Target)


- E.W.C.

Here's a quote from one of those anti-meat websites:

QuoteThe most significant assault on their welfare is fast growth.(11) The poultry industry has used selective breeding and growth-promoting antibiotics to produce birds whose bodies "are on the verge of structural collapse."(12) To put their growth rate into perspective, the University of Arkansas Division of Agriculture reports, "If you grew as fast as a chicken, you'd weigh 349 pounds at age 2

no shit? Wow, who would have guessed that? Chickens grow faster than humans? Are you surprised as much as I?

for gods sake, chickens in the wild grow nearly as fast as that.

Also, I don't remember seeing any "structural collapse" in the barn, nope not a single chicken lost a leg running around the barn.

Mike the Headless chicken

While we're on the subject of nutty animal right's folk - here's that little polar bear cub some of them said should be killed rather than raised in "captivity":


http://tinyurl.com/2fsahs

I think if this were TBP those pics would require a chorus of "kyoot!"'s. The one with the back feet in the air is on my desktop for now.

yeah, I saw that one.

how stupid. Kill the cub because it is sooooo wrong to raise it unnatuarlly.:rolleyes:

These poeple must have really boring lives or somthing.

Quote from: McrowMike the Headless chicken

:eek:

I've BEEN to Fruita, Co. and never heard of Mike before. Wow.

Quote from: Werekoala:eek:

I've BEEN to Fruita, Co. and never heard of Mike before. Wow.

Mike is way cooler than the two headed calf our town had.

Quote from: McrowMike is way cooler than the two headed calf our town had.

We had a headless chicken once, but then he got elected to a higher office...

-clash

Quote from: Werekoala...little polar bear cub...

That is dangerous cute.

Quote from: McrowIn fact I worked on farms, even a slaughter house for short while. Bottom line is that without all the methods used now for raising and butchering animals, there is no way in hell the demand for meat could be met. Period.

So unless half or more of america stops eating meat, don't expect any changes

Yeah, I see where you are coming from.

I want to make it clear that I am not any kind of animal activist. I eat meat. I love meat. And in my family, we often kill our meat (once I'm out of the city this will be true again for me).

That being said, America eats way too fucking much of everything, including meat.

It is true that there is no way in hell the demand for meat could be met. It's also true that the demand far exceeds the needs in North America.

I don't approve of PETA or any of that crap. I do think that there are way to many city-dwellers who have absolutely no idea how their meat is produced and could gain from the knowledge. They could also gain from visiting farms and seeing exactly how we grow food and such.

I look at some of my friends... they eat three, four times as much as I do, especially meat-wise. They keep telling me how they need that stuff for a tough day but I can lose them on any hike, any task. It is surprising how little food a person really needs. That is, surprising to many people in occidents who are used to rampant over-consumption.

I think it's great that you are speaking from firsthand experience. Just offering a slightly different point of view here. We're mass-producing more meat than we really need. It ain't good for nature, for the animals or for the people stuffing themselves like pigs.

Quote from: Mcrowfor gods sake, chickens in the wild grow nearly as fast as that.

They still have chickens in the wild?