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Apple TV - Foundation

Started by jeff37923, October 18, 2023, 07:56:18 AM

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jeff37923

October 18, 2023, 07:56:18 AM
I'm finally watching the Foundation series on Apple TV and it sure as fuck ain't Issac Asimov.  I'd say that this TV show has as much in common with Asimov's trilogy as the Starship Troopers movie had in common with Heinlein's book of the same name.

I mean Holy Christ, I damn near threw my work boot at the flatscreen when they started going on that psychohistory was a failure but clairvoyance and precognition work just fine. Asimov must be rolling in his grave.
"Meh."

Ratman_tf

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October 19, 2023, 04:00:02 PM
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Lurkndog

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October 20, 2023, 09:17:28 AM
That's about what I'd expect from Apple TV, given what I've read about For All Mankind. (There is no fucking way the Soviet N1 rocket would have ever flown successfully. That rocket program was a series of cascading failures that got worse as it went along.)

Banjo Destructo

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October 20, 2023, 10:21:00 AM
I won't watch the series, but that's mainly because I don't think there's very many potential good shows out there.   I will say, I don't like azimov's take on exponential increase of radiation and whatnot that killed earth, like.. what the hell? and the hippy dippy ending of choosing a gia fate for humanity, I mean I guess its original and I didn't see it coming, but jeeze.

Trond

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October 20, 2023, 01:20:24 PM
My wife is a bit of an Asimov fan, and she was literally shaking her fist at the TV   :D

jeff37923

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October 20, 2023, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: Lurkndog on October 20, 2023, 09:17:28 AM
That's about what I'd expect from Apple TV, given what I've read about For All Mankind. (There is no fucking way the Soviet N1 rocket would have ever flown successfully. That rocket program was a series of cascading failures that got worse as it went along.)

The N1 was a disaster, but I could buy that fiction for the rest of the story. I have a tough time believing Nixon would ever support the space program, even for votes - although the Jamestown base was possible because the Air Force had plans for placing Minuteman missiles on the moon as a last strike weapon.
"Meh."

jeff37923

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October 20, 2023, 03:00:37 PM
Quote from: Trond on October 20, 2023, 01:20:24 PM
My wife is a bit of an Asimov fan, and she was literally shaking her fist at the TV   :D

I'm a big fan of his robot stories and think that while The Bicentennial Man didn't follow the written story well, the movie was still good.

Foundation is the product of Hollywood hubris.
"Meh."

Cathode Ray

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October 28, 2023, 07:03:50 AM
foundation is a tough act to film, but it was really like they TRIED to screw it up.
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Omega

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October 28, 2023, 07:14:12 AM Last Edit: October 28, 2023, 07:16:50 AM by Omega
Quote from: jeff37923 on October 18, 2023, 07:56:18 AM
I'm finally watching the Foundation series on Apple TV and it sure as fuck ain't Issac Asimov.  I'd say that this TV show has as much in common with Asimov's trilogy as the Starship Troopers movie had in common with Heinlein's book of the same name.

I mean Holy Christ, I damn near threw my work boot at the flatscreen when they started going on that psychohistory was a failure but clairvoyance and precognition work just fine. Asimov must be rolling in his grave.

Yeah the writing was on the wall early on that this was going to be a mess.

Also.

Don't watch the I Robot movie. It is literally a script for a different movie with the I Robot title and some place names and nods.
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