This is a site for discussing roleplaying games. Have fun doing so, but there is one major rule: do not discuss political issues that aren't directly and uniquely related to the subject of the thread and about gaming. While this site is dedicated to free speech, the following will not be tolerated: devolving a thread into unrelated political discussion, sockpuppeting (using multiple and/or bogus accounts), disrupting topics without contributing to them, and posting images that could get someone fired in the workplace (an external link is OK, but clearly mark it as Not Safe For Work, or NSFW). If you receive a warning, please take it seriously and either move on to another topic or steer the discussion back to its original RPG-related theme.

Classes that don't fit the game

Started by Itachi, October 04, 2017, 03:28:39 PM

Previous topic - Next topic
Print
Go Down Pages 1 2 3 4 5 ... 13
User actions

Gronan of Simmerya

#30
October 04, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
There are these people called lazy old farts...
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

TJS

#31
October 04, 2017, 10:16:38 PM
Has no one said Paladins yet?  Especially old school always Lawful Good Paladins - because they are always a fucking pain.

Bren

#32
October 04, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
Quote from: TJS;998327Has no one said Paladins yet?  Especially old school always Lawful Good Paladins - because they are always a fucking pain.
Well if you just roll 3d6 down the board you almost never get a PC qualified to be a Paladin.

I thought I'd save some lazy old fart the trouble of responding.
Currently running: Runequest in Glorantha + Call of Cthulhu   Currently playing: D&D 5E + RQ
My Blog: For Honor...and Intrigue
I have a gold medal from Ravenswing and Gronan owes me bee

Elfdart

#33
October 04, 2017, 10:48:04 PM Last Edit: October 04, 2017, 10:51:02 PM by Elfdart
I love kung-fu movies as much as the next guy (Black Belt Jones is one of my all-time favorite movies) but I think both the monk and ranger are pretty retarded. They should just be fighters and if the player wants their fighter to use his bare hands and no armor, or roam the wilderness looking for humanoids to kill, they can do so.

[video=youtube;APTdjG6Xo9A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APTdjG6Xo9A[/youtube]
Jesus Fucking Christ, is this guy honestly that goddamned stupid? He can\'t understand the plot of a Star Wars film? We\'re not talking about "Rashomon" here, for fuck\'s sake. The plot is as linear as they come. If anything, the film tries too hard to fill in all the gaps. This guy must be a flaming retard.  --Mike Wong on Red Letter Moron\'s review of The Phantom Menace

David Johansen

#34
October 04, 2017, 11:11:23 PM
The Palladium Fantasy Roleplaying Game had more European Monks but they worshiped the gods of ancient Egypt, very likely because Kevin had written them up for Valley of the Pharaohs.  They had a completely defensive martial art like Aikido because they were pacifists.  I'm not quite sure how it relates beyond monks and western civilization and weird mash-ups.

It occurs to me that Street Rats, Rogue Academics, and such like in Rifts might fit.

Even on 4d6 take 3, a paladin requires you to sacrifice a 17 to Charisma.
Fantasy Adventure Comic, games, and more http://www.uncouthsavage.com

Gronan of Simmerya

#35
October 04, 2017, 11:14:35 PM
Quote from: TJS;998327Has no one said Paladins yet?  Especially old school always Lawful Good Paladins - because they are always a fucking pain.

Quote from: Bren;998329Well if you just roll 3d6 down the board you almost never get a PC qualified to be a Paladin.

I thought I'd save some lazy old fart the trouble of responding.

I've never had any trouble with anybody playing a Paladin, and I've certainly never seen them be a 'fucking pain'.

There are, I believe, two reasons.  First, none of us would be afraid to say "Stop being a fucking pain or we won't play/I won't ref any more for this character."

Secondly, they're so damned scarce that the first reason definitely made people stop and think.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Dumarest

#36
October 04, 2017, 11:18:14 PM
Quote from: Elfdart;998333I love kung-fu movies as much as the next guy (Black Belt Jones is one of my all-time favorite movies) but I think both the monk and ranger are pretty retarded. They should just be fighters and if the player wants their fighter to use his bare hands and no armor, or roam the wilderness looking for humanoids to kill, they can do so.

[video=youtube;APTdjG6Xo9A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APTdjG6Xo9A[/youtube]

Ah! BLACK BELT JONES! Endlessly entertaining!

Police chief guy: "It's top priority."
BB: "I'M top priority!"

Karate guy in dark room: "Who the fuck hit me?"
BB: "BATMAN,  motherfucker!"

Love that movie. Have you seen the sequel, HOT POTATO?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1722[/ATTACH]

Man, I would play a Blaxploitation kung fu game in a heartbeat.

Krimson

#37
October 04, 2017, 11:28:51 PM
Quote from: Bren;998329Well if you just roll 3d6 down the board you almost never get a PC qualified to be a Paladin

In my very first AD&D group I saw this happen with a legit 18/00 STR to boot. It's rare but it does happen.
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse \'yiff factor\' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

Krimson

#38
October 04, 2017, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: TJS;998327Has no one said Paladins yet?  Especially old school always Lawful Good Paladins - because they are always a fucking pain.

I really like 1e Paladins. As a player or a DM with a player who groks them, they can be a lot of fun.
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse \'yiff factor\' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

TJS

#39
October 04, 2017, 11:31:37 PM
Did no one play 3E? Or even 2E with alternate methods of character creation.

TJS

#40
October 04, 2017, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Krimson;998353I really like 1e Paladins. As a player or a DM with a player who groks them, they can be a lot of fun.
I don't mind them for their own sake.  It's just when the rest of the party consists of rogues and scoundrels out for as much loot as they can grub up, Sir Galahad doesn't really fit in very well.

Gronan of Simmerya

#41
October 04, 2017, 11:42:06 PM
That is not a rules problem, that is a players' problem.  Figure out how you're going to work together.

Gronan's Three Laws of Gaming (nee Asimov)

1)  The rules can't fix stupid
2)  The rules can't fix asshole
3)  Anything that happened when you, or the referee, were 14, does not constitute a need to change the rules.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

TJS

#42
October 04, 2017, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;998360That is not a rules problem, that is a players' problem.  Figure out how you're going to work together.

Gronan's Three Laws of Gaming (nee Asimov)

1)  The rules can't fix stupid
2)  The rules can't fix asshole
3)  Anything that happened when you, or the referee, were 14, does not constitute a need to change the rules.
Who said there was a rules problem?  The questions was: which classes don't fit.  The answer: frequently the Paladin.  The solution: pick another class.

tenbones

#43
October 05, 2017, 12:21:17 AM
Post D&D 2e - The Fighter

3e- most of the classes and PrC's outside of the core book.
4e - all of them.
5e - Warlock. Eldritch Knight, Sorcerer, Druid.

Knives out, boys. Let's do this.

TJS

#44
October 05, 2017, 12:55:23 AM
Quote from: tenbones;998371Post D&D 2e - The Fighter

3e- most of the classes and PrC's outside of the core book.
4e - all of them.
5e - Warlock. Eldritch Knight, Sorcerer, Druid.

Knives out, boys. Let's do this.
Why Druid out of curiosity?

I ask because I pretty much agree about the other 5E classes.
Print
Go Up Pages 1 2 3 4 5 ... 13
User actions