Quote from: Piestrio;877255Honestly?

Anything outside the core genre. Anything "abnormal". I'm just sick to death of anything that reeks of special snowflakes.

I've always been like this. Nowadays, after years of auteur GMs handing me characters (or worse, directing me very specifically on how to create them) and telling me in detail how to play them, I tend to be a tad more flexible.

Nevertheless, the GM's word is final, and as a player I've always made a point of creating my characters within the framework given by each game's rules. I feel it's kind of like food and wine pairings. You can play a cyborg ninja in D&D, and you can have Chardonnay with your steak, and more power to you, but I'll play a fighter and have a full-bodied red, thank you very much.

Quote from: flyingcircus;877275Half-Vampire (umm no such thing imo, you either are or you are not a vamp),

Considering there are rules in the various editions for this thing, they actually do. I honestly don't see the issue with them? Is it the desire to be sort of like Blade? I've played a couple myself over the span of 3rd and 4th edition.

For the former, it was a template from Libris Mortis: Book of the Dead where you could add to any humanoid creature. For that character, we fought a vampire and I was turned. Him being an elf, the transformation took on strange properties (pulled from examples like Jandar Sunstar) but the transformation was halted, due in part for killing the master vampire AND because there was a cleric of Lathander in the group who "healed" me. Because he had the taint of vampirism, mechanically I wanted it represented and the DM was cool with that. We looked at the Bloodline mechanics from Unearthed Arcana but it wasn't really a good fit. I came across the template and he was cool with that.

For the latter, it was a 4e campaign starting at around 4th level. The character, a baron (Warlord) from a fallen noble house, was seeking to restore it by means of prestige and acts of valor. His bloodline was cursed, however, by the old taint of a vampire a century passed. This was represented with Dhampir Heritage feats. Later, as the Vyrloka race debued, the DM was cool with changing the character from a human with those feats to a Vyrloka (since they're almost human anyways).


Either way, IF the half-vampire thing isn't just a means to create Blade v2.0 then I don't really take issue with the concept.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;877280Not just referees.

I've seen more than one thread (in various places) of people complaining about stuff that happened in games ten, or fifteen, or twenty years ago or more.

Not, "That was so funny when we fed Ernie to the bag of devouring because we didn't know what it was," but people still genuinely upset, even angry, about things that happened in a silly ass elfgame years ago.

Sometimes I think some of the moments that stick out negatively do so because it was somehow viewed as personal.

It might be a game. But someone deliberately fucking with you is not a game.

The real problem though is when the someone blames the game for the problem rather than the fuckwit who was causing trouble. It wasnt playing another gender. It wasnt playing an elf. It wasnt this or that or whatever the hell youve deluded yourself into thinking was the problem. It was that guy sitting across from you.

Games don't make bad players. (least not the fuck with you personally type) Bad players are bad players.

Quote from: Omega;877306Sometimes I think some of the moments that stick out negatively do so because it was somehow viewed as personal.

It might be a game. But someone deliberately fucking with you is not a game.

The real problem though is when the someone blames the game for the problem rather than the fuckwit who was causing trouble. It wasnt playing another gender. It wasnt playing an elf. It wasnt this or that or whatever the hell youve deluded yourself into thinking was the problem. It was that guy sitting across from you.

Games don't make bad players. (least not the fuck with you personally type) Bad players are bad players.

True.

As a very, very, very wise person once said, "The rules can't fix stupid, and the rules can't fix asshole."

Quote from: Omega;877306Sometimes I think some of the moments that stick out negatively do so because it was somehow viewed as personal.

It might be a game. But someone deliberately fucking with you is not a game.

The real problem though is when the someone blames the game for the problem rather than the fuckwit who was causing trouble. It wasnt playing another gender. It wasnt playing an elf. It wasnt this or that or whatever the hell youve deluded yourself into thinking was the problem. It was that guy sitting across from you.

Games don't make bad players. (least not the fuck with you personally type) Bad players are bad players.

True. And I've seen some pretty petty, nasty crap pulled in games unfortunately.

"I roll my eyes when a player wants to play..."


... any character with a backstory longer than 25 words.

Mine was. "Have Spellbook. Will Travel." :cool:

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;877280Not just referees.

I've seen more than one thread (in various places) of people complaining about stuff that happened in games ten, or fifteen, or twenty years ago or more.

Not, "That was so funny when we fed Ernie to the bag of devouring because we didn't know what it was," but people still genuinely upset, even angry, about things that happened in a silly ass elfgame years ago.

Oh sure.  Anyone who claims to have been scarred for life by pretty much anything happening over a tabletop run (short of "That sonuvabitch threw his brass dice at my head") is way too highstrung to play roleplaying games.

Quote from: Ravenswing;877270Says the asshat who makes an issue of this multiple times in the same thread.

Seriously, do you ever get tired of being a dickweed, or are you like this in real life?

Jeff: "OMG you're signing that check in SOMETHING OTHER THAN BLACK INK!!!!!"
Jeff: "OMG that car you just bought ISN'T IN MY APPROVED COLOOOOOR!!!"

(presses IGN button)

*arches other eyebrow*
*closes eyes, hangs head, and turns around with cart*
LESBIAN STRIPPER NINJA! LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!
/runs cart full of hay into the flaming topic

Quote from: Ravenswing;877395Oh sure.  Anyone who claims to have been scarred for life by pretty much anything happening over a tabletop run (short of "That sonuvabitch threw his brass dice at my head") is way too highstrung to play roleplaying games.

I think you're being a bit too literally-minded with the interpretation of "scarred for life".

Quote from: Opaopajr;877412*arches other eyebrow*
*closes eyes, hangs head, and turns around with cart*
LESBIAN STRIPPER NINJA! LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!
/runs cart full of hay into the flaming topic

LSN? Where's she:p?

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;877351"I roll my eyes when a player wants to play..."


... any character with a backstory longer than 25 words.

We have a winner!

25 words... really?

Quote from: Nexus;87742825 words... really?

Well when they die in the first hour of play, there's less attachment for the player to be upset about. Heck in these sorts of games, character names are practically optional.

Quote from: Nexus;87742825 words... really?

I try to limit it to two sentences or bullet points. Word count isn't quite as important.

Quote from: Nexus;87742825 words... really?

The older style treats characters like glorified Monopoly pieces.  They're expendable, and a lot of the old adventures (if you used them) challenge the player's skill of deduction and reasoning.  The stats were just there for mechanical reasons, not personality ones.

Remember, we're from the 'New School' (Whatever the fuck that means) which OG loves to remind us about, over and over and over, about how the game is meant to be played, because he was there.