AD&D 2E V. 1E Treasure Tables

Jame Rowe · November 10, 2015, 10:12:16 AM

What is the difference between the AD&D 1E and 2E treasure matrix?

I ask because I have the 1st printing versions of the 2E PHB and DMG, but a 2nd printing MM, along with the Gygax Memorial Reprints of 1E. So I don't have the 2E DMG with the treasure tables.

estar · November 10, 2015, 10:48:34 AM

I don't have access to AD&D 2nd at the moment but perhaps this will help. It is an analysis of AD&D and OD&D treasure types.

Part I which goes into OD&D treasure types.

Part II for AD&D

I feel out of all the editions the OD&D setup is the one where the logic is easily followed and makes the most sense. The additional treasure types in AD&D start to feel arbitary. And later editions including 3.X and after are focused to much on "appropriate" rewards at the power level of the monster.

OD&D in contrast feel more like world building. Yes it has some tough monster get better treasure than weaker monster. But overall it feel more organic.

Jame Rowe · November 10, 2015, 12:07:13 PM

And then I discovered that the '89 DMG does, indeed have the treasure table at all. Never mind!

RPGPundit · November 13, 2015, 11:37:14 PM

I've always liked using the 1e tables.

Jame Rowe · November 15, 2015, 08:47:11 AM

They seem more robust than the 2.1 (1989) version.

What's the difference between the '89 and '96 versions?

thedungeondelver · November 15, 2015, 01:02:05 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;864323I've always liked using the 1e tables.

The 1e tables are great, although one must be careful that one doesn't inadvertently put the Hand of Vecna in some kobold's treasure chest unless one wants it there!

RPGPundit · November 17, 2015, 11:50:44 PM

Quote from: thedungeondelver;864554The 1e tables are great, although one must be careful that one doesn't inadvertently put the Hand of Vecna in some kobold's treasure chest unless one wants it there!

I LOVE the way the treasure tables can sometimes put totally unexpected items in low-level treasure.

But technically, I don't think it's possible for relics to end up in a randomly-rolled treasure horde, if I remember correctly.

thedungeondelver · November 18, 2015, 12:22:52 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;865025I LOVE the way the treasure tables can sometimes put totally unexpected items in low-level treasure.

But technically, I don't think it's possible for relics to end up in a randomly-rolled treasure horde, if I remember correctly.

No, no it's not. Just having a bit of fun.

But other things can, potentially. Kobolds guarding a pile of 1000cp...aaaaand a +5 Holy Avenger, for example (that kills every Kobold dumb enough to touch it)

Doom · November 18, 2015, 12:48:35 AM

Hrm, I thought "Artifact or Relic" was like a 1% chance on one of the miscellaneous magic tables.

Jame Rowe · November 19, 2015, 01:04:03 PM

Quote from: Jame Rowe;864527They seem more robust than the 2.1 (1989) version.

Sure, but...

QuoteWhat's the difference between the '89 and '96 versions?

What's the difference between the '89 and '96 versions?

Matt · November 19, 2015, 03:18:18 PM

Quote from: Jame Rowe;865258Sure, but...

What's the difference between the '89 and '96 versions?

7 years.

Jame Rowe · November 23, 2015, 05:57:01 PM

Quote from: Matt;8652757 years.

Yes, and your elaboration is stunning.