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Quintessential Chaotic Neutral?

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July 15, 2015, 03:47:13 AM
This one should be interesting, because no doubt we'll get into whether "Chaotic Neutral" is just code for "Batshit Crazy" or "Annoyingly goofy".  But here goes:  what characters of pop culture, literature, or history would you consider 'exemplars' of the CN alignment?
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July 15, 2015, 05:44:48 AM
Nemesis the Warlock (and Deadlock of the ABC Warriors)
Lucifer from the Vertigo version of him where he walks away from Hell and simply doesn't want anyone telling anyone else what to do
Tuco - from the good the bad and the ugly
Riddick

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July 15, 2015, 08:41:24 AM
I'd say Jack Sparrow, but he seems more CG by now.
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#3
July 15, 2015, 08:52:55 AM
Characters that have lots of machiavellian plans and don't seem to fit any other alignment well because they're so complex and dabble in so many shades of gray tend to fit well here.
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July 15, 2015, 06:51:23 PM
Curly Howard.
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#5
July 15, 2015, 07:41:54 PM
I agree with most of those above.

First that came to my mind: Eddie Haskell (Leave it to Beaver).

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July 15, 2015, 08:48:37 PM
Non sequitur?  Yes!

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July 15, 2015, 08:55:06 PM
What definition of Chaotic Neutral are we using here? Because if we're going by the 1E DMG, I'm nominating Heath Ledger's Joker. :)

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July 15, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;841841This one should be interesting, because no doubt we'll get into whether "Chaotic Neutral" is just code for "Batshit Crazy" or "Annoyingly goofy".  But here goes:  what characters of pop culture, literature, or history would you consider 'exemplars' of the CN alignment?

Harley Quinn.

Highly intelligent, educated, and a giver of no fucks whatsoever. She might qualify as crazy, but the version Paul Dini used in the cartoon was more of a free spirit than delusional (except when it came to loving the Joker).
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July 15, 2015, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;842032Harley Quinn.

Highly intelligent, educated, and a giver of no fucks whatsoever. She might qualify as crazy, but the version Paul Dini used in the cartoon was more of a free spirit than delusional (except when it came to loving the Joker).

Yeah, I'd have to agree.  She doesn't regret taking lives, but she doesn't really go out of her way to do it.
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July 16, 2015, 07:46:00 PM
Beni Gabor in the mummy.  He carried every religious symbol, switched from one team to the next, then turned on them when the mummy seemed too powerful.  Completely CN in my opinion

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#11
July 16, 2015, 09:01:10 PM
So to be Chaotic Neutral you either have to be batshit insane or terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

If...IF...Chaotic Neutral is a legitimate alignment, you have to do better than than that.
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July 16, 2015, 09:11:34 PM
Quote from: Motorskills;842336So to be Chaotic Neutral you either have to be batshit insane or terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

If...IF...Chaotic Neutral is a legitimate alignment, you have to do better than than that.

Didn't I do that earlier?

Riddick being I think a great example.
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July 16, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;842026What definition of Chaotic Neutral are we using here? Because if we're going by the 1E DMG, I'm nominating Heath Ledger's Joker. :)

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July 16, 2015, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;841841This one should be interesting, because no doubt we'll get into whether "Chaotic Neutral" is just code for "Batshit Crazy" or "Annoyingly goofy".  But here goes:  what characters of pop culture, literature, or history would you consider 'exemplars' of the CN alignment?

This is the hardest alignment in my view. I would have check, but I feel like it is also the one that has changed the most in the rules.

I would say Jim Morrison as he was presented in the movie the Doors was a pretty good candidate for Chaotic Neutral.
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